Shooting in a Christian School in the US. Whether or not it will be Highly Publicized is Yet to be Determined (ie, the shooter's political status)

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, blackbird said:

So a crazy guy with serious mental issues was allowed to own a bunch of guns and you think that is ok?  Seriously.. get a grip.

The trick is to figure out what drove Robert crazy. This guy was fcked up big time. 

Adolescents is the most confusing time of life. Today our adolescents are told things like...sensuality is fluid...Gawd doesn't exist...we're all gonna die from heat...people are poisonous...

All this exactly when stability is paramount for the kids. But to you, it's as simple as guns.

Just another reason why the Liberal mind is way too simplistic and freaked out, to be given any sway on society.

[blackbird]

11 hours ago, West said:

See whackos like Jen Psaki mocking prayer after this one like a true sicko

Prayer is good, but it is not the only thing that is required.  Some gun advocates are using it to make it appear as if they are actually doing something while they refuse to support gun control.

I see Jen Psaki comments not targeting prayer itself, but rather mocking the gun free-for-all gang who refuse to bring in gun control laws and hide behind the idea of praying instead.  God expects man (government) to act wisely and govern wisely with laws that make sense and not just pretend you are doing something that will solve the problem by praying only.  Action is required to stop guns from being in the hands of those who shouldn't have them, not just prayer.

You don't pray to God that a problem will go away and refuse to take action to eliminate the problem. Do you think God listens to people pray about a problem when they refuse to take action to solve the problem?  Or when they refuse to support the common sense solutions to the problem?

You don't give guns to mentally ill people or criminals and then pray that they don't shoot someone.

Edited August 30, 2025 by blackbird

[blackbird]

6 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

You said dealing with mental health is not a solution. 

I am not sure how I worded that, but I meant dealing with mental health is not the ONLY solution.   You can't allow every person in the country to have guns, including all the millions with mental health problems, and not expect tens of thousands of people to be shot.   I did state clearly on my above posts that I also believe in mental health treatment.  I also stated that people with mental health issues or psychological, ideological issued should not have guns.  Really quite simple.  

6 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

You have this bad habit of presuming you know what others need. That is what makes you liberal.

That is false.  I don't presume anything.  Your statement is vague and means nothing.

How do I presume to know what others need?  What are you talking about?

Everyone has opinions.   You have endless opinions about everything and everyone, so what are you accusing me of now?   

If you can't deal with the issue, keep quiet.

Edited August 30, 2025 by blackbird

[robosmith]

15 hours ago, West said:

I do stand firmly in opposition to your disgraceful point of view that Christians deserve to get murdered because they dont align with your radicalized view on gender ideology. Any politician pushing this point of view is vile scum

You can stand where ever you want ON YOUR LIE. No one cares where YOU STAND, CANUCK.

[robosmith]

15 hours ago, blackbird said:

It would make more sense to not allow everyone to have a handgun.  Millions of people with mental issues or criminal mentality should not have guns. 

The idea that people should be allowed to carry handguns for self defence is a useless idea because as you said in most cases, they will not get the chance to use it to defend themselves.  What that kind of system does is it gives massive numbers of mentally ill or criminals guns.   Better to eliminate handguns completely except for police and security guards.  That would save countless lives.

It would, but eliminating guns completely is an impossible job when they are EVERYWHERE and MANY will NOT TURN THEM IN. And then there is the 2nd Amendment which gives them the RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.

That won't be changed any time soon, if ever.

[robosmith]

14 hours ago, Nationalist said:

A crazy-ass trannie opens fire in a church...one it attended before...

And Libbies think guns are the problem. 

Have any of you read the profile on this bugger? Outcast...angry...sexually confused...man the guy's mom worked at that church as well. Robin/Robert was a product of social decay.

He fired INTO the church because he was LOCKED OUT, ignoramus.

That's why he only killed 2. If he had not had an AR STYLE LONG GUN, he probably would NOT have have killed ANY.

[blackbird]

24 minutes ago, robosmith said:

And then there is the 2nd Amendment which gives them the RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.

The Supreme Court in the U.S. has ruled that is not an unlimited right.

Wikipedia says this about the "Right to bear arms" in the 2nd amendment:

"....... the Supreme Court affirmed that the right belongs to individuals, for self-defense in the home,^[4][5][6][7] while also including, as dicta, that the right is not unlimited and does not preclude the existence of certain long-standing prohibitions such as those forbidding "the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill" or restrictions on "the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons"

Second Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

From comments on here and comments by gun advocates, I suspect many people do not know the 2nd amendment is not an unlimited right.  The government has the right to restrict possession of firearms from certain individuals.

[User]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

You don't give guns to mentally ill people or criminals and then pray that they don't shoot someone.

This. Is. Not. Happening. 

You are a fundamentally dishonest person who hides like a coward from me because you know it and don't like being called out for your lies. 

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

If you can't deal with the issue, keep quiet.

Says the person who can't deal with my criticism. 

[blackbird]

14 hours ago, West said:

Which mental health problems do you propose cause you to lose a right enshrined in the country's constitution? (Like it or not)

Most people who struggle with mental health are not homicidal 

You don't know that because it is impossible to predict what someone with mental health issues will do.  That is a well known fact.  If it was possible to predict, why do you think we have all the assaults and murders with knives and guns by mentally ill people?  Nobody knows what they will do.

The Supreme Court already ruled that the government has the power to prevent people with mental illness and convicted felons from possessing firearms.  They said the 2nd amendment is not an unlimited right.

Wikipedia says this about the "Right to bear arms" in the 2nd amendment:

"....... the Supreme Court affirmed that the right belongs to individuals, for self-defense in the home,^[4][5][6][7] while also including, as dicta, that the right is not unlimited and does not preclude the existence of certain long-standing prohibitions such as those forbidding "the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill" or restrictions on "the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons"

Second Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

 

[User]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

You don't know that because it is impossible to predict what someone with mental health issues will do. 

So... it is impossible to predict what ANYONE will do. 

Your comments and arguments here are sophomoric.

[Nationalist]

35 minutes ago, robosmith said:

He fired INTO the church because he was LOCKED OUT, ignoramus.

That's why he only killed 2. If he had not had an AR STYLE LONG GUN, he probably would NOT have have killed ANY.

Lol...yes dear....

[blackbird]

46 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It would, but eliminating guns completely is an impossible job when they are EVERYWHERE and MANY will NOT TURN THEM IN. And then there is the 2nd Amendment which gives them the RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.

That won't be changed any time soon, if ever.

I am not holding my breath to see the government change the laws and collect all the guns that shouldn't be out there.

I know it would be a big job and there is massive opposition with a large percentage of people having mental issues, but think they should still have guns.

That is a political problem.  I simply point out the cause of all the mass shootings and the tens of thousands of gun deaths per year.  What America does about it is their responsibility.  They have been locked in a political struggle over guns for ages while thousands continue to die by guns every year.  The pro gun lobby has a lot of influence in the Republican party and the MAGA people.  They carry a lot of blame for all the deaths.   I don't see any real change on the horizon.

Edited August 30, 2025 by blackbird

[User]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

They have been locked in a political struggle over guns while thousands continue to die by guns.

No.

Thousands die because they kill themselves. They will do that with or without guns. 

Thousands die because of gang violence, drug-related crime, and other violent criminals. They will do that with or without guns. 

Thousands die because of domestic violence. They will do that with or without guns. 

Guns are a tool, the underlying crime, criminal motivations, gangs, suicide, etc... doesn't change even if you could wave some magic wand and make all guns vanish. 

 

[robosmith]

15 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...yes dear....

^Pu$$y WHIPPED REFLEX LMAO

[Aristides]

Every country has mentally ill people, they just don't give them easy access to firearms.

[User]

19 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Every country has mentally ill people, they just don't give them easy access to firearms.

Well, at least we are making progress in that you folks agree that trans people are mentally ill. 

[Aristides]

20 minutes ago, User said:

Well, at least we are making progress in that you folks agree that trans people are mentally ill. 

No, you aren't making any progress at all, these things keep happening and you keep coming up with excuses to do nothing about it. 

Another school shooting in the US. Yawn, let's have a pool on how many weeks till the next one and how many kids will die.

[robosmith]

43 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Every country has mentally ill people, they just don't give them easy access to firearms.

[User]

12 minutes ago, Aristides said:

No, you aren't making any progress at all, these things keep happening and you keep coming up with excuses to do nothing about it. 

Another school shooting in the US. Yawn, let's have a pool on how many weeks till the next one and how many kids will die.

This is a lie, and if I had the search feature, I am pretty sure I have brought up a list of about 10 things I support doing. With how you act on here, I wouldn't be surprised to find you in those discussions. 

When people like you say "do nothing about it" what you really mean is that we don't agree with whatever hate of guns you have and across the board lets punish and target everyone else instead of the bad people doing bad things. 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Sorry but that's just a lie.  And having a picture of a stern woman with it doesn't make that less true   LOL  And no surprise, no source. 

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

No, you aren't making any progress at all, these things keep happening and you keep coming up with excuses to do nothing about it. 

Another school shooting in the US. Yawn, let's have a pool on how many weeks till the next one and how many kids will die.

Would you think guns have enemies? Well yes they do, there are two, Liberals and rust.

Oil can prevent one, common sense can prevent the other.

 

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, User said:

This is a lie, and if I had the search feature, I am pretty sure I have brought up a list of about 10 things I support doing. With how you act on here, I wouldn't be surprised to find you in those discussions. 

When people like you say "do nothing about it" what you really mean is that we don't agree with whatever hate of guns you have and across the board lets punish and target everyone else instead of the bad people doing bad things. 

 

Like what and how many of them have been done?

I don't hate guns, I hate dead kids. Americans seem to love guns more.

Edited August 30, 2025 by Aristides

[User]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Like what and how many of them have been done?

I don't hate guns, I hate dead kids.

So, you want to ban swimming pools? Ban all recreational days at the lake?

The fact that anything may or may not have been done has no bearing on my support for them. 

Here is one thing I support: School Resource Officers. 

 

[CdnFox]

36 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Like what and how many of them have been done?

I don't hate guns, I hate dead kids. Americans seem to love guns more.

You don't hate dead kids.  We've proven that many times now.  You do hate guns. It's that simple.  You're a complete hypocrite. 

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, User said:

So, you want to ban swimming pools? Ban all recreational days at the lake?

The fact that anything may or may not have been done has no bearing on my support for them. 

Here is one thing I support: School Resource Officers. 

 

One your dumber posts, swimming pools and lakes don’t come to your schools and shoot kids.

We have school liaison officers but they aren’t there to protect kids from shooters.