Carney's announcement to recognize a state of Palestine in September most ill-conceived imaginable.

[User]

25 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Yeah that's all they were doing...🤡

When it comes to Hamas in Gaza... yeah. There were a couple of times over the years the attacks were too much, but for the most part Israel pulled out and left them alone. 

Hamas and the Palestinian people chose terrorism over peace and prosperity. The International community poured billions and billions into that place over the years to help build infrastructure and they threw it away to build rocket launchers and terror tunnels instead. 

[Moonbox]

19 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

So you trust the numbers and situation as reported by Hamas but not by an organization funded by Israel?

Nope.  What I said was pretty clear.  You look really silly trying to discredit all of the media, aid/human rights groups, governments etc from around the world as compromised and biased against Israel, when your evidence for that is citing Israeli-funded propaganda.  🙃

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

So what do you think Israel should do? Stop, pull back, and let Hamas reconstitute, rearm, and plan for the next attack?

No, i personally think the Gazans should be paid off to give up Gaza.  Give them homes and citizenship in other countries.  Incorporate Gaza into Israel.  Gaza doesn’t work.  Too many Gazans are radicalized.  Israel has its own right wing radicals who keep wanting to build settlements in areas designated as Palestinian territory. Let them buy property in Gaza and pay for cleanup and reconstruction. As long as Gazans are given a generous settlement, it will be more than worthwhile for them to leave that hellhole.  

Edited August 6, 2025 by Zeitgeist

[Army Guy]

16 hours ago, PIK said:

Is all of Gaza rubble?

From all the pictures i've seen most of it is...

6 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Exactly! Netenyahoo's way doesn't work.

It takes two parties or more to have a conflict, it is just convenient you dump all of this on Israelis feet...

[Army Guy]

14 hours ago, eyeball said:

Israeli army sources told TPS-IL that the real obstacle to feeding Gaza is Hamas. This accusation is backed by UN figures.

So after all this time and despite all the death and destruction Israel has inflicted in Gaza, Hamas is still in charge. That's almost comical...the IDF is the proverbial gang that can't shoot straight I guess. Good at killing innocent non-combatants and creating no end of future combatants in the process.  It certainly underscores why this is a forever war.

Last estimate from Israelis intel says there are still approx 20,000 hamas fighters in Gaza....This war is far from over, 

[Army Guy]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

No, i personally think the Gazans should be paid off to give up Gaza.  Give them homes and citizenship in other countries.  Incorporate Gaza into Israel.  Gaza doesn’t work.  Too many Gazans are radicalized.  Israel has its own right wing radicals who keep wanting to build settlements in areas designated as Palestinian territory. Let them buy property in Gaza and pay for cleanup and reconstruction. As long as Gazans are given a generous settlement, it will be more than worthwhile for them to leave that hellhole.  

What makes you think they will leave, and who wants them....look at the trouble they cause here in Canada...Jordan kicked them out because of the problems they caused, do you see any other Muslim country opening up their doors to them in these numbers...Those that wanted to leave have done so...

[Army Guy]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Nope.  What I said was pretty clear.  You look really silly trying to discredit all of the media, aid/human rights groups, governments etc from around the world as compromised and biased against Israel, when your evidence for that is citing Israeli-funded propaganda.  🙃

Just a question how many western media companies are operating in GAZA, most of the western media companies are using figures and stats provided to them by HAMAS, are you saying those are accurate...as for all the NGO's operating inside GAZA there very lives depend on not providing the media with anything outside hamas party lines do you think they would risk any of that to tell the truth about what is happening in gaza ...The UNRWA had members participate in the oct 7 raid...how is any of their information to be trusted...Even the UN uses Hamas facts and figures....Same goes for most of the jewish media it has all been vetted and wiped clean to provide their side of the story....some place in the middle is the truth both sides are compromised....

[Zeitgeist]

23 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

What makes you think they will leave, and who wants them....look at the trouble they cause here in Canada...Jordan kicked them out because of the problems they caused, do you see any other Muslim country opening up their doors to them in these numbers...Those that wanted to leave have done so...

Right, so maybe Israel should buy a largely uninhabited island, build housing for them, and run.  The countries that claim to care about them can trade with them and prop them up along with Israel.  I hear the Saudis and UAE have money.  

Edited August 6, 2025 by Zeitgeist

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

What makes you believe that Hamas's attitude, militancy, and hatred of Israel and Jews aren't entirely mirrored by the general population?

It's just human nature to chafe under religious conservatives.

[eyeball]

37 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Last estimate from Israelis intel says there are still approx 20,000 hamas fighters in Gaza....This war is far from over, 

I wouldn't be surprised to find that remains a fairly constant number given how successful Israel is at motivating new recruits.

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Exactly! Netenyahoo's way doesn't work.

Netanyahu's way would work, bomb them to Smithereens, reduce them to rebel, leave them penniless and broke, and then occupy them. It will make it almost impossible for them to conduct any kind of significant operations in Israel ever again.

But that's not the way they've been doing it in the past. I suspect they're going to give that a try now

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I wouldn't be surprised to find that remains a fairly constant number given how successful Israel is at motivating new recruits.

So you're saying they need to kill them all?

[eyeball]

13 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So you're saying they need to kill them all?

It seems that way.

From the river to the sea Netanyahu said.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

It seems that way.

From the river to the sea Netanyahu said.

He was probably quoting the Palestinians, but I know you've always been supportive of the slaughter of civilians if someone really really thinks it's their right so maybe that's how it has to go

[eyeball]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

He was probably quoting the Palestinians, but I know you've always been supportive of the slaughter of civilians if someone really really thinks it's their right so maybe that's how it has to go

You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.

Aww muffin    angry you've had the truth thrown back in your face again? So sad for you. 

you said it yourself many times, every person has the right to murder civilians as long as they're doing it to keep from feeling repressed. Whether they're being repressed or not

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

you said it yourself many times, every person has the right to murder civilians as long as they're doing it to keep from feeling repressed.

Cite. Oh right, no search engine...how convenient.

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Cite. Oh right, no search engine...how convenient.

Everybodys seen you say it bud

I know you think that everyone has the same short-term memory issues you do but the fact is we don't. That's why everybody gives you a hard time about supporting terrorists.

If you don't like to be thought of as a terrorist supporter my suggestion would be stopped supporting terrorists. Stop claiming that they have a human right to do what they did, stop claiming that somehow Canada is responsible for their actions and stop claiming that in any way shape or form october 7th was remotely justifiable. Because you say that constantly and it's a lie.

I'm sorry you're uncomfortable with your lies catching up with you but there you are

[eyeball]

Just now, CdnFox said:

I'm sorry you're uncomfortable with your lies catching up with you but there you are

Sure kid, you say that about everyone.🥱

[I am Groot]

10 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Nope.  What I said was pretty clear.  You look really silly trying to discredit all of the media, aid/human rights groups, governments etc from around the world as compromised and biased against Israel, when your evidence for that is citing Israeli-funded propaganda.  🙃

I trust what they say a lot more than I trust what Hamas or any Palestinian under them say.

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/skvxuqxdxl

LOL. Actors practicing.

https://x.com/MaralSalmassi/status/1953195084280672537

9 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

No, i personally think the Gazans should be paid off to give up Gaza.  Give them homes and citizenship in other countries.

The problem with that is NO ONE wants Palestinians, especially ones from Gaza who have been indoctrinated for the last 18 years into the most ferocious and fanatical branch of Islam.

 

Edited August 7, 2025 by I am Groot

[I am Groot]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

It's just human nature to chafe under religious conservatives.

The Middle East has been 'chafing' under religious conservatives for a thousand years.

[I am Groot]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

I wouldn't be surprised to find that remains a fairly constant number given how successful Israel is at motivating new recruits.

In 1948, when the Arab countries attacked Israel, the local Arabs were all confident that they would win - and slaughter or drive off all the Jews.

They didn't need to be taught to hate Jews.

[CdnFox]

28 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Sure kid, you say that about everyone.🥱

Nope. Just the liars  

[eyeball]

35 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

The Middle East has been 'chafing' under religious conservatives for a thousand years.

Makes consigning millions more to the region seem like a well thought out idea doesn't it?

26 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Nope. Just the liars

Which is virtually everyone and everything. There's a name for that condition you know.

[eyeball]

42 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

In 1948, when the Arab countries attacked Israel, the local Arabs were all confident that they would win - and slaughter or drive off all the Jews.

They didn't need to be taught to hate Jews.

No, by that time it was pretty clear how aggressively Zionists were willing to be when it came to colonizing the region. The British regarded the most violent ones as terrorists. They eventually caved to them and got out as told.

[I am Groot]

19 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, by that time it was pretty clear how aggressively Zionists were willing to be when it came to colonizing the region. The British regarded the most violent ones as terrorists. They eventually caved to them and got out as told.

Arabs were murdering Jews long before the British took over from the Ottomans.

 

Edited August 7, 2025 by I am Groot