U.S. slaps 20.56% anti-dumping duties on Canadian softwood lumber

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah and you lied about it entirely. The reason we're paying it is because trump insisted on it. Then they opted to 5% and we agreed that too because true trump persisted upon it

Don't get yourself kiddo, that's us caving to trump's wishes. Trump told them they had to, they did.  We've gone a decade not meeting that commitment, we did right now because of trump. 

If you're capable, think....  This is a long overdue commitment to NATO, not Trump regardless if he was loud about this with NATO or not.  That's not caving fool....it's honouring a freaking commitment we should have been doing years ago, and that I'm sure partisan hacks like you chirped about.  But you suggest that we should just walk away from our NATO alliance and go it alone.  Sure....

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

We had reciprocal tariffs in place against the united states. After trump's phone call with carney during the election Carney put in a massive number of restrictions and exemptions such that almost all of our reciprocal tariffs were taken off the table. This was done quietly and out of the attention of the media at the time

The Toronto Sun, no bias slant there at all.  You should have read closer and thought about it....“It’s a strategic play on the government’s part to not damage the Canadian economy.”  You realize that tariffs are a tax, right?  

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

A bunch of things like when ford was going to put tariffs on electricity and trump got mad, carney called ford and told him to take them off immediately.  And he did. 

Who said that Carney called Ford?  The fact was it's Ford and was a Trump-like that he wouldn't have followed through on.  

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

There were other things as well. 

What other things?

 

[Aristides]

Let Americans pay the tariffs. We don't need tariffs if we just stop buying shit from the US.

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

If you're capable, think....  This is a long overdue commitment to NATO, not Trump regardless if he was loud about

 

Is 100% trump. 

I can't help that you're too stupid to understand this fairly simple concept but for 10 years we have not bothered to become anywhere near that commitment, trump got up and said we're going to be doing tariffs you go get this done and it got done

That was trump.

And the increase to 5% was rump too. .

31 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

The Toronto Sun

You can't refute the story so you try and attack the source. That's what absolutely losers do. The story was in plenty of other publications as well including the star. I assume that you aren't going to try and claim that the star is some sort of right wing propaganda?

 Pathetic

31 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Who said that Carney called Ford?

Ford did.

And then he took carney's people with him to go meet with the Americas. That was the deal. Or takes off the Export tariffhe takes Carney's people with him to America to talk trade with trump's people.

Again, read a paper

 

So let's recap. Trump tells carney to make his commitments that they have been avoiding for 10 years happened right now and he does. Truck tells him that he wants to see the commitment increased and he does. Trump tells him he wants the counter tariffs gone. And he does.Trump tells him he wants the DST guard, and he does. 

He concedes so much that axworthy, a famous liberal international negotiator, calls him a boot licker

Lloyd Axworthy accuses Carney of taking 'bootlicking' approach to Trump

Meanwhile trump has been increasing our tariffs

 

So you couldn't refute a single thing there. Every single thing you said was complete bullshit.

 

And I see that you couldn't come up with even one example of carney not caving.  So obviously you agree that carney has caved on every single issue seeing as you can't find one that he didn't

Hey, kid. I told you to learn how to make an argument. Crying your eyes out and putting your fingers in your ears and humming when you see something you don't like is not making an argument.

Do better

 

 

 

Edited July 31, 2025 by CdnFox

[Army Guy]

On 7/28/2025 at 8:40 AM, Barquentine said:

Do reciprocal tariffs help? Trump is imposing massive tax hikes on Americans. Should we do the same to Canadians?

We would be better off not taking a deal at this point. Cusma gives us a cushion for the time being. And Trump doesn't honour deals anyway.

BTW Trump hasn't gotten any deals yet, just MOUs to work towards deals, which all look terrible for all parties.

Oh, and the steel and aluminum 50% tariffs are still on everybody.

 

It also makes Canadian products more expensive, most people will start buying the cheaper products,Canadians will lose out on sales....

[Barquentine]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

We don't even have that.

We already have a real deal. We have CUSMA which will help us weather the storm. No new deal is better than a bad deal.

[Army Guy]

On 7/28/2025 at 10:35 PM, Nefarious Banana said:

Wondering if tariffs on potash to the US is an option?  

Thats one of the trump cards....maybe not tariffs but limited the amount exported, lack of supply will jack up the price....it will also make food imported from US here in Canada more expensive...

[Army Guy]

45 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Let Americans pay the tariffs. We don't need tariffs if we just stop buying shit from the US.

Canadian companies that sell products in the US will charge more to cover US tariffs,US consumers will pick another product that is cheaper, if Canada has no sales then people get laid off. SO yes Americans will pay for those tariffs if there is no US made product that will replace it that would work.But there is always another US product..That is where Canadian tariffs come into play,making US products to expensive so Canadians will be forced into finding an alternative product...punishing US companies...

[LinkSoul60]

31 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Is 100% trump. 

I can't help that you're too stupid to understand this fairly simple concept but for 10 years we have not bothered to become anywhere near that commitment, trump got up and said we're going to be doing tariffs you go get this done and it got done

That was trump.

And the increase to 5% was rump too. .

You can't refute the story so you try and attack the source. That's what absolutely losers do. The story was in plenty of other publications as well including the star. I assume that you aren't going to try and claim that the star is some sort of right wing propaganda?

 Pathetic

Ford did.

And then he took carney's people with him to go meet with the Americas. That was the deal. Or takes off the Export tariffhe takes Carney's people with him to America to talk trade with trump's people.

Again, read a paper

 

So let's recap. Trump tells carney to make his commitments that they have been avoiding for 10 years happened right now and he does. Truck tells him that he wants to see the commitment increased and he does. Trump tells him he wants the counter tariffs gone. And he does.Trump tells him he wants the DST guard, and he does. 

He concedes so much that axworthy, a famous liberal international negotiator, calls him a boot licker

Lloyd Axworthy accuses Carney of taking 'bootlicking' approach to Trump

Meanwhile trump has been increasing our tariffs

 

So you couldn't refute a single thing there. Every single thing you said was complete bullshit.

 

And I see that you couldn't come up with even one example of carney not caving.  So obviously you agree that carney has caved on every single issue seeing as you can't find one that he didn't

Hey, kid. I told you to learn how to make an argument. Crying your eyes out and putting your fingers in your ears and humming when you see something you don't like is not making an argument.

Do better

 

 

 

You're a broken record man...  never changes with the same idiocy and partisan schtick.

[CdnFox]

42 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

We already have a real deal. We have CUSMA which will help us weather the storm. No new deal is better than a bad deal.

No new deal is a bad deal. The current deal is 30% tariffs on some of our critical Industries. That is a horrible deal and will push us into recession

Not only that but it will hurt us badly by the time we get around to renegotiating CUSMA next year, Which could then lead to a really bad deal there as well

We cannot afford no deal. So if we're stuck with it that's going to be very bad for us. Carney said he can handle this and he's failing Canada horribly

[herbie]

The new owners of a local mill reopened it last year with the same output from 60 employees as the other guys with 350+ employees ten years ago. 
Another one adjusted some screws and clicked 'metric' on the keyboards and has increased Asian sales each year for a decade.

We've been dealing with this Softwood duty/tariff BS for 40 years and you think some ignorant dullard like Trump is going to end us?

[CdnFox]

23 minutes ago, herbie said:

The new owners of a local mill reopened it last year with the same output from 60 employees as the other guys with 350+ employees ten years ago. 

They might regret that decision now if they're Customers have to pay 35% tariffs

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We've been dealing with this Softwood duty/tariff BS for 40 years and you think some ignorant dullard like Trump is going to end us?

Yeah. Lumber is nowhere near what it used to be. In the 1970s lumber accounted for about 25 cents out of every dollar earned either directly or in secondary business in British Columbia. Today it's way down the list and shrinking

Have a look, and you can go read the report too. 

U.S. lumber tariffs threaten B.C. rural access, report warns - Business in Vancouver

The industry is in trouble and this is going to make it worse

Hey, maybe you could whip out your magic credit card and triple the value of the forestry industry? They really appreciate it.