BeaverFever Posted July 30, 2025 Report Posted July 30, 2025 7 hours ago, User said: It is not hearsay when the person who did it says they did it... It is supported by the fact that... all the pictures of them hanging out were before that time as well. YOU are the one who is picking and choosing here and you continue with your mindless conspiracy peddling. 1) Of course Trump is going to lie to protect himself he lies about everything. The author who originally put the story out there before Trump did was repeating hearsay so doesn’t corroborate anything. Nobody can validate this claim. 2) Nobody is disputing that Trump and Epstein eventually had a falling out after 15+ years of friendship. There’s no evidence that it was because of “stealing staff”. We know they also had a real estate dispute in those final months of friendship as well. I am not picking and choosing anything. I am not stating speculation as fact, YOU ARE. Quote
User Posted July 30, 2025 Report Posted July 30, 2025 9 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: 1) Of course Trump is going to lie to protect himself he lies about everything. The author who originally put the story out there before Trump did was repeating hearsay so doesn’t corroborate anything. Nobody can validate this claim. It is not hearsay to say Trump did in fact kick Epstein out of his club. Whether it was for being a creep with his staff or with his daughter or both, Trump has confirmed 2 of the 3. But yeah... its a real stretch of the imagination to conclude that Epstein, a known pedophile creep would also have tried hitting on someones daughter too. You got me there. 10 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: 2) Nobody is disputing that Trump and Epstein eventually had a falling out after 15+ years of friendship. There’s no evidence that it was because of “stealing staff”. We know they also had a real estate dispute in those final months of friendship as well. Other than Trump saying it happened and an actual staff member saying it happened... sure, no evidence. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 30, 2025 Report Posted July 30, 2025 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: 1) Of course Trump is going to lie to protect himself he lies about everything. The author who originally put the story out there before Trump did was repeating hearsay so doesn’t corroborate anything. Nobody can validate this claim. 2) Nobody is disputing that Trump and Epstein eventually had a falling out after 15+ years of friendship. There’s no evidence that it was because of “stealing staff”. We know they also had a real estate dispute in those final months of friendship as well. I am not picking and choosing anything. I am not stating speculation as fact, YOU ARE. So trump lies and therefore he's a pedophile. That's your logic leap today is it? This is insane. You have become so emotionally invested in hating trump that you've lost all reason. 2 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
robosmith Posted July 30, 2025 Author Report Posted July 30, 2025 6 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Trump literally said that he initially stopped associating with Epstein because he kept stealing staff. And just after that, he said Epstein was "a terrific guy" who liked women "on the younger side." He's trying to distract you from that, and it's working because of your blind allegiance. Quote
User Posted July 30, 2025 Report Posted July 30, 2025 11 minutes ago, robosmith said: And just after that, he said Epstein was "a terrific guy" who liked women "on the younger side." He's trying to distract you from that, and it's working because of your blind allegiance. Um... where did he say that? Quote
Aristides Posted July 30, 2025 Report Posted July 30, 2025 7 minutes ago, User said: Um... where did he say that? https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-donald-trump-call-jeffrey-epstein-terrific-guy-1857207 Quote
User Posted July 30, 2025 Report Posted July 30, 2025 18 minutes ago, Aristides said: https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-donald-trump-call-jeffrey-epstein-terrific-guy-1857207 Yes, that was from "A 2002 profile about Epstein" and @robosmith was saying he said that AFTER : "And just after that, he said" 1 Quote
Aristides Posted July 30, 2025 Report Posted July 30, 2025 7 minutes ago, User said: Yes, that was from "A 2002 profile about Epstein" and @robosmith was saying he said that AFTER : "And just after that, he said" 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 30, 2025 Report Posted July 30, 2025 1 hour ago, robosmith said: And just after that, he said Epstein was "a terrific guy" who liked women "on the younger side." He's trying to distract you from that, and it's working because of your blind allegiance. Why do you lie when it is so easy to disprove? https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news/president-donald-trump-explains-why-he-kicked-jeffrey-epstein-out-of-mar-a-lago/vi-AA1JrPPt Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
robosmith Posted July 30, 2025 Author Report Posted July 30, 2025 3 hours ago, User said: Um... where did he say that? Major magazine interview from years ago. It's been all over the news. What hole are you living in that you didn't see it? LMAO Quote
User Posted July 30, 2025 Report Posted July 30, 2025 16 minutes ago, robosmith said: Major magazine interview from years ago. It's been all over the news. What hole are you living in that you didn't see it? LMAO You said he said it AFTER though. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted July 30, 2025 Report Posted July 30, 2025 5 minutes ago, User said: You said he said it AFTER though. He was hoping you'd forget that part I think It's like homer arguing with his wife and making ridiculous statements, then when she corrects him, "We're PAST that marge!" 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CouchPotato Posted July 30, 2025 Report Posted July 30, 2025 (edited) 10 minutes ago, User said: You said he said it AFTER though. Quote after adverb : following in time or place : afterward, behind, later https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/after Just figured I would get ahead of the game and post a definition of the word after before robosmith starts a 5-page debate on the subject. Edited July 30, 2025 by CouchPotato 1 1 Quote
robosmith Posted July 31, 2025 Author Report Posted July 31, 2025 7 hours ago, User said: Yes, that was from "A 2002 profile about Epstein" and @robosmith was saying he said that AFTER : "And just after that, he said" Giuffre was poached from Mar-a-Lago in 2000 and the Epstein profile was published in 2002. Epstein was still a member at Mar-a-Lago in 2007. So Trump's LIES do NOT ADD UP. Duh Quote
CdnFox Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 19 minutes ago, robosmith said: Giuffre was poached from Mar-a-Lago in 2000 and the Epstein profile was published in 2002. Epstein was still a member at Mar-a-Lago in 2007. So Trump's LIES do NOT ADD UP. Duh That's because you don't know how to do math Trump has been clear that it was a number of people that got poached not just Giuffre. And that he had warned him not to do it anymore and eventually he did it. And we know that they were not seen in public together or friends anymore after 2004. So while he may still technically have been a member of the club their friendship was over and trump wasn't buddy buddy any further So actually it does add up. Over a couple of years epstein poached a number of trump's employees and trump got pissed off. There was also a real estate deal the two of them were competitive about in 2004. But somewhere in 2003 to 2004 they stopped being friends. Not complicated 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
robosmith Posted July 31, 2025 Author Report Posted July 31, 2025 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: That's because you don't know how to do math Trump has been clear that it was a number of people that got poached not just Giuffre. And that he had warned him not to do it anymore and eventually he did it. And we know that they were not seen in public together or friends anymore after 2004. So while he may still technically have been a member of the club their friendship was over and trump wasn't buddy buddy any further So actually it does add up. Over a couple of years epstein poached a number of trump's employees and trump got pissed off. There was also a real estate deal the two of them were competitive about in 2004. But somewhere in 2003 to 2004 they stopped being friends. Not complicated Trump said, "I threw him out." AKA LIED. And you're a FOOL if you believe ANYTHING Trump says. Trump offers new explanation for why he cut ties with Jeffrey Epstein Quote President Trump now says he banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after Epstein repeatedly “stole” spa employees — a rationale Trump had never publicly stated before. Politics Trump banned Jeffrey Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after sex criminal hit on member’s daughter Quote President Donald Trump banned his former friend, the wealthy investor Jeffrey Epstein, from his exclusive Mar-a-Lago Club for hitting on the teenage daughter of another member, a new book says. The late Epstein’s banishment by Trump from the Palm Beach, Florida, club appears to have occurred months before Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to state criminal charges in Florida, which included paying for sexual services from a 14-year-old girl. But it also seems to have happened more than two years after a state grand jury charged Epstein with soliciting prostitution. The new book “The Grifter’s Club: Trump, Mar-a-Lago, and the Selling of the Presidency,” also says that despite claims to the contrary by Trump’s company, Epstein had been himself a member of Mar-a-Lago before he was banned. Quote
User Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 10 hours ago, robosmith said: Giuffre was poached from Mar-a-Lago in 2000 and the Epstein profile was published in 2002. Epstein was still a member at Mar-a-Lago in 2007. So Trump's LIES do NOT ADD UP. Duh Well, first of all Trump said he thought she was one of the girls and he gave no specific timeline that she was specifically the one that after he told Epstein to stop.... So, no lies, just you trying to make something out of nothing. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 9 hours ago, robosmith said: Trump said, "I threw him out." AKA LIED. And you're a FOOL if you believe ANYTHING Trump says. Doesn't say he revoked the club membership. Does it. AKA - YOU lied Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
robosmith Posted August 2, 2025 Author Report Posted August 2, 2025 Another account of the Epstein Trump break up from Siege by Michael Wolff. Quote Journalist Michael Wolff exposes the shocking full story behind what ended Donald Trump's friendship with Jeffrey Epstein — and it involves alleged Russian money laundering, a $40 million house, and allegations that Trump "was fully acquainted" with Epstein's sex crimes. Wolff also revealed what Epstein believed about Trump "to his dying day..." "Now, Epstein’s explanation for why this friendship ended is as follows. In 2004, Epstein believed himself to be the high bidder on a piece of real estate in Palm Beach. A house. $36 million was his bid," Wolff said to Meidas Touch in a new interview. "He took his friend Trump around to see the house, to advise him on how to move the swimming pool," Wolff continued. "Trump thereupon went around Epstein’s back and bid $40 million for the house and got the property. "Epstein, who was well acquainted, in fact deeply involved with Trump’s scattered finances, understood that he didn’t have $40 million to pay for this house," said Wolff. "Now, if that was the case, it was someone else’s $40 million. At the time, Epstein believed this to be the $40 million of a Russian oligarch by the name of Rybolovlev. "Less than two years later, this same house that Trump had bought for $40 million was sold for $95 million and it was in fact sold to Mr. Rybolovlev," he went on. "This is all a red flag of money laundering. And what Epstein did, and he was furious about losing this house... I mean, there’s something about these guys, these men, that nothing rouses them so much as a real estate betrayal." "Epstein, after the sale of this house, after Trump went around his back, got this house, Epstein began to threaten him," explained Wolff. "He began to threaten him with lawsuits. He began to threaten him with going to the press and saying that Trump was a frontman for a money laundering deal." "Trump panics at this point and Epstein believed, and he believed to his dying day, that it was Trump who went to the police — Trump who was fully acquainted with what was going on Epstein's house, fully acquainted for many years — Trump went to the police and, as Epstein said, dropped the dime on him," said Wolff. "That is to say, informed the police of what was going on and an investigation began and all of Epstein’s legal problems for the next 15 years began to unfold." "This story about this piece of real estate and their falling out was first published in June 2019," said Wolff. "It’s published actually in my book Siege, the second book I had written about the Trump White House. Epstein had recounted this story to me. I put it in this book. Epstein at that moment was in Paris. He read the book. He called me with some alarm, and he said he was afraid that he might have said too much." "Three weeks later, he returned to the United States from Paris and was promptly arrested on the tarmac of Teterboro Airport in New Jersey when his plane landed," concluded Wolff. For his part, Trump claimed this week that he ended his relationship with Epstein because the billionaire pedophile "stole" employees from him including a young girl named Virginia Giuffre. It's beyond clear at this point that we are not getting the full story. Quote
Nationalist Posted August 2, 2025 Report Posted August 2, 2025 On 7/30/2025 at 3:30 PM, Aristides said: Too comical. You get snookered by logic and fall back on backhanded insults. What a Sally... 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted August 2, 2025 Author Report Posted August 2, 2025 21 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Too comical. You get snookered by logic and fall back on backhanded insults. What a Sally... It's OBVIOUS you've not read this thread, dropout. Quote
CdnFox Posted August 2, 2025 Report Posted August 2, 2025 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Another account of the Epstein Trump break up from Siege by Michael Wolff. So he had photographic proof that trump likes women. Shocking And no evidence any of them were underage. 🙄🙄🙄🙄 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
BeaverFever Posted August 3, 2025 Report Posted August 3, 2025 On 7/30/2025 at 12:25 PM, CdnFox said: So trump lies and therefore he's a pedophile. That's your logic leap today is it? This is insane. You have become so emotionally invested in hating trump that you've lost all reason. No where did I say any of that? I said you can’t use unverified claims by Trump to prove Trump had no knowledge of Epstein’s behaviour. Quote
robosmith Posted August 3, 2025 Author Report Posted August 3, 2025 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: So he had photographic proof that trump likes women. Shocking And no evidence any of them were underage. 🙄🙄🙄🙄 There were PICTURES of the girls topless with Trump in Epstein's house, and Trump is trying to HIDE THEM. That is strong enough EVIDENCE to get the pictures RELEASED, IDENTIFIED and FIND OUT AGES, which is why Trump is BLOCKING THAT. Of course you're TOO STUPID to CONNECT THOSE DOTS despite the FACT that it is KNOWN that Epstein tosses his girls when they turn 18. Duh Quote
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