Japan Cuts A Deal

[gatomontes99]

FoxNews (The most trusted name in news)

"We just completed a massive Deal with Japan, perhaps the largest Deal ever made," Trump wrote on Truth Social. "Japan will invest, at my direction, $550 Billion Dollars into the United States, which will receive 90% of the Profits. This Deal will create Hundreds of Thousands of Jobs — There has never been anything like it."

Trump said Japan will open its country to trade in things like cars, trucks, rice and other agricultural products.

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In other news, the tariffs that are in place have raised over $100B in revenue. This is what we voted for. This is working.

[Nationalist]

And it's gonna drive the Libbies to distraction.

All in all...

Mission accomplished. 🫠

[gatomontes99]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

And it's gonna drive the Libbies to distraction.

All in all...

Mission accomplished. 🫠

It absolutely kills them that we are leveraging our economic process to further our domestic interests by negotiating trade deals with foreign powers. The beautiful truth is, the rest of the world needs us to prop up their economies. Without the economy of the United States, all other nations...read that again...ALL OTHER NATIONS would have difficulty maintaining their economy. 

However, for the United States, there isn't a single economy that we can't survive and thrive without. As the party that can legitimately walk away from any deal, we have all the power. 

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

It absolutely kills them that we are leveraging our economic process to further our domestic interests by negotiating trade deals with foreign powers. The beautiful truth is, the rest of the world needs us to prop up their economies. Without the economy of the United States, all other nations...read that again...ALL OTHER NATIONS would have difficulty maintaining their economy. 

However, for the United States, there isn't a single economy that we can't survive and thrive without. As the party that can legitimately walk away from any deal, we have all the power. 

This happens to be mostly true. The USA is the world's largest consumer based economy and any business would want entry to it for that reason.

Trump has leveraged this fact and it's working.

Positive results...a concept currently irrelevant to Libbies. Their only concern is for their hatred of Orangemanbad.

Hell they'd destroy the USA if it could sooth their pure hatred. That's why, as they are today, Libbies can never be allowed to hold power.

Maybe, after Trump is out of the Whitehouse, the Libbies will recover.

[Deluge]

47 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

FoxNews (The most trusted name in news)

"We just completed a massive Deal with Japan, perhaps the largest Deal ever made," Trump wrote on Truth Social. "Japan will invest, at my direction, $550 Billion Dollars into the United States, which will receive 90% of the Profits. This Deal will create Hundreds of Thousands of Jobs — There has never been anything like it."

Trump said Japan will open its country to trade in things like cars, trucks, rice and other agricultural products.

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In other news, the tariffs that are in place have raised over $100B in revenue. This is what we voted for. This is working.

Let's hope this works. 

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Let's hope this works. 

It will. It's already working.

[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

It will. It's already working.

I'm not so sure. And I'd want to see the terms of this actual deal. Trump has a bad habit of generalizing deals that aren't even deals yet they're just memorandums of understanding for future negotiation. I have a very difficult time believing that Japan would sign such a one-sided deal where they give up everything spend hundreds of billions and get nothing in return. In fact, considering they haven't even announced a deal I suspect that there is no deal, just yet another letter of understanding.

And so far based on their economy it's not working. If anything the economy is severely underperforming in the united states and it's beginning to affect the world. They're currently estimating a 1.5% increase in GDP this year and that is terrible, it should be somewhere between 2.5 and 3. Given the inflation rate is actually falling behind

I do not believe trump is doing anywhere near as well as trump thinks he's doing or is some of the supporters think. Which isn't to say that that won't eventually happen, but at this point in time I'm not seeing it.

[Boges]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

It absolutely kills them that we are leveraging our economic process to further our domestic interests by negotiating trade deals with foreign powers. The beautiful truth is, the rest of the world needs us to prop up their economies. Without the economy of the United States, all other nations...read that again...ALL OTHER NATIONS would have difficulty maintaining their economy. 

However, for the United States, there isn't a single economy that we can't survive and thrive without. As the party that can legitimately walk away from any deal, we have all the power. 

This also means that the importing goods is essential for the US. 

Meaning it's only a matter of time before tariffs exponentially raise prices for Americans. 

This is why the US rates haven't dropped. 

If that's the goal, fine. It's an excellent revenue generation tool. But the consequences are an affordability issue for American, the exact thing Americans elected Trump to tackle. 

As much as nations need the US to continue to trade with them, the sentiment created by this combative form of trade negotiations forces other nations to create different partnerships and encourages them to avoid buying products from the US. 

It's said the Trump recently called Canadians nasty? Why because we're boycotting American goods and refusing to travel there. Again this counters the goals of said tariffs to begin with. What's the point of opening up markets to products from a country that is acting openly hostile to it. 

Edited July 23, 2025 by Boges

[Nationalist]

28 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I'm not so sure. And I'd want to see the terms of this actual deal. Trump has a bad habit of generalizing deals that aren't even deals yet they're just memorandums of understanding for future negotiation. I have a very difficult time believing that Japan would sign such a one-sided deal where they give up everything spend hundreds of billions and get nothing in return. In fact, considering they haven't even announced a deal I suspect that there is no deal, just yet another letter of understanding.

And so far based on their economy it's not working. If anything the economy is severely underperforming in the united states and it's beginning to affect the world. They're currently estimating a 1.5% increase in GDP this year and that is terrible, it should be somewhere between 2.5 and 3. Given the inflation rate is actually falling behind

I do not believe trump is doing anywhere near as well as trump thinks he's doing or is some of the supporters think. Which isn't to say that that won't eventually happen, but at this point in time I'm not seeing it.

Patience. Time will tell. In the meantime, it's working.

[Boges]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Patience. Time will tell. In the meantime, it's working.

He doesn't have time. In a year mid-term campaigns will be in full swim. Soi when he'd like to scrap the USMCA, he may be facing a financial crisis. 

Inflation was up last month. Things are starting to get more expensive. 

This is why he's so impatient about lowering interest rates. 

[gatomontes99]

45 minutes ago, Boges said:

Meaning it's only a matter of time before tariffs exponentially raise prices for Americans. 

This isn't a guaranteed outcome. It will depend on a ton of variables from price elasticity, to domestic production. What it does do is inicentivize domestic production and dissentivize imports. 

Japan's deal is a perfect example. If they produce nthe goods in the US they get a huge break. That means jobs for Americans. 

[gatomontes99]

49 minutes ago, Boges said:

As much as nations need the US to continue to trade with them, the sentiment created by this combative form of trade negotiations forces other nations to create different partnerships and encourages them to avoid buying products from the US. 

Meh...not really. Let's say you own a business and you need a fleet of vehicles. The typical car dealer will bend over backwards to get your business because you are reliably the highest volume consumer. Yeah, they may take a hit on the profit, but they will take that hit because the alternative is piecing together dozens, if not hundreds, of single buyers. 

The US is the powerhouse market. There is no replacing our demand. 

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Meh...not really. Let's say you own a business and you need a fleet of vehicles. The typical car dealer will bend over backwards to get your business because you are reliably the highest volume consumer. Yeah, they may take a hit on the profit, but they will take that hit because the alternative is piecing together dozens, if not hundreds, of single buyers. 

The US is the powerhouse market. There is no replacing our demand. 

History has had tons of examples of one country or another being the PowerHouse Market. For quite a long time it was England who in her day was bigger than the US is now in our day. Then There was Spain, how are they doing right now? China was once the greatest trading nation and most powerful nation on the planet. We had Rome, we had the Byzantine Empire, we even had the Mongols for a while, the list is endless

In the end they all made mistakes which brought an end to their supremacy and allowed another country to rise to be supreme.

The US is at a delicate point in history. A mistake now could be seen very possibly in the history books as the point of decline from which there was no return.

Every single empire thought theirs would last forever right until it didn't

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

He doesn't have time. In a year mid-term campaigns will be in full swim. Soi when he'd like to scrap the USMCA, he may be facing a financial crisis. 

Inflation was up last month. Things are starting to get more expensive. 

This is why he's so impatient about lowering interest rates. 

You go with that.

We will see.

[Boges]

42 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Meh...not really. Let's say you own a business and you need a fleet of vehicles. The typical car dealer will bend over backwards to get your business because you are reliably the highest volume consumer. Yeah, they may take a hit on the profit, but they will take that hit because the alternative is piecing together dozens, if not hundreds, of single buyers. 

The US is the powerhouse market. There is no replacing our demand. 

As if the US was one single customer. 

Companies are able to make individual deals selling products to individual US vendors. The US is just so big that the opportunities are seemingly endless. 

As I said, they still need to import goods, tariffs don't change that. There is not enough domestic supply on a number of products to satisfy the US consumer at the price-point they want. 

 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Patience. Time will tell. In the meantime, it's working.

ONLY in your IMAGINATION. Meanwhile inflation is UP since "liberation day." 🤮

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

History has had tons of examples of one country or another being the PowerHouse Market. For quite a long time it was England who in her day was bigger than the US is now in our day. Then There was Spain, how are they doing right now? China was once the greatest trading nation and most powerful nation on the planet. We had Rome, we had the Byzantine Empire, we even had the Mongols for a while, the list is endless

The best example in there is Rome. there were multiple reasons Rome fell: History.com

Tarrifs and trade deals had nothing to do with it. However, political corruption, over spending, military degradation and moral decline were factors that are similarly problems today. We are publishing (and hopefully correcting) political corruption. We have cut $1.3T in mandatory spending, $900B in discretionary spending, raised tax revenues and begun eliminating "cash cow" programs that feed money directly into politicians' bank accounts. The BBB had new spending for the military to upgrade equipment and replenish stocks of artillery, bullets, missiles, etc. We are also ending racist hiring practices pushed by DEI, preventing the physical and mental abuse children undergo in gender transition therapy and enforcing laws (like Biden's border policy) that effectively enslaved millions of workers at jobs with criminally low wages or illegal and illicit work as prostitutes or drug mules.

So, we were headed in the wrong direction. Hopefully this admin will reverse all of that and tariffs/deals will be part of that solution not the problem.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

The best example in there is Rome. there were multiple reasons Rome fell: History.com

Tarrifs and trade deals had nothing to do with it. However, political corruption, over spending, military degradation and moral decline were factors that are similarly problems today. We are publishing (and hopefully correcting) political corruption. We have cut $1.3T in mandatory spending, $900B in discretionary spending, raised tax revenues and begun eliminating "cash cow" programs that feed money directly into politicians' bank accounts. The BBB had new spending for the military to upgrade equipment and replenish stocks of artillery, bullets, missiles, etc. We are also ending racist hiring practices pushed by DEI, preventing the physical and mental abuse children undergo in gender transition therapy and enforcing laws (like Biden's border policy) that effectively enslaved millions of workers at jobs with criminally low wages or illegal and illicit work as prostitutes or drug mules.

So, we were headed in the wrong direction. Hopefully this admin will reverse all of that and tariffs/deals will be part of that solution not the problem.

Well it is entirely fair to say that trade had a major impact on the problems Rome faced towards his fall. Rome was never able to survive as a standalone country, it couldn't feed itself. It did require trade with other nations. In some respects America is in the same boat. It is the largest trading partner because it trades

Many of the improvements you mentioned are in fact good things. And as you correctly note it's never any one particular thing that winds up causing a nation to fall from prominence.

There's no doubt that you were headed in the wrong direction. That is true and unarguable. And it can be argued that regardless of the economic situation the Current government is correcting a number of problems and moving in the right direction on several fronts.

But a country lives or dies on its economy at the end of the day, and even the rosie forecast suggest this is going to be a Very poor year, and honestly america is driving away the trade that made it great to begin with.

Time will tell, it's far too soon to say whether or not the long-term prospects are going to be a big benefit or not. But at the stage of the game as far as economy goes I'm not seeing it. And I don't just mean I'm not seeing the Improvement, that's to be expected, you don't turn an economy the size of America around like a speedboat it's more like an oil tanker. But I mean I don't even see indications that it's going to lead to substantially more benefit for America.

In many respects this just feels like a kind of a lazy tax and I don't see it promoting a lot of business growth in the US. Left on its own the US economy should increase by about 3% a year as far as GDP goes. That's a decent run of the Mill year. That for the next 2 years and meanwhile inflation pressure is fairly strong.

Time will tell but I don't believe that he's on the right track with this.

Edited July 23, 2025 by CdnFox

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

ONLY in your IMAGINATION. Meanwhile inflation is UP since "liberation day." 🤮

Lol...you keep spewing that.

[Legato]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

ONLY in your IMAGINATION. Meanwhile inflation is UP since "liberation day." 🤮

If inflammation is up try Polysporin, I would imagine it's very effective.

[robosmith]

48 minutes ago, Legato said:

If inflammation is up try Polysporin, I would imagine it's very effective.

Don't quit your day job, joker.

53 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...you keep spewing that.

I will keep telling the truth because it's the only way you'll find out. LMAO

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Don't quit your day job, joker.

I will keep telling the truth because it's the only way you'll find out. LMAO

Find out what? That you're wrong again?

[paxamericana]

28 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Don't quit your day job, joker.

You owe Trump, your president,an apology letter @robosmith

Edited July 23, 2025 by paxamericana

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

If inflammation is up try Polysporin, I would imagine it's very effective.

No no, he said INFLATION! I think he means his head is swelling

[paxamericana]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Every single empire thought theirs would last forever right until it didn't

But for this moment in time, your ass, Canada, belongs to us.