CdnFox Posted July 12, 2025 Report Posted July 12, 2025 Carney ethics filing: details of conflict of interest screen So yeah, there's about 100 companies that carney is not allowed to have any decisions on because there would be a conflict of interest. First off the idea of having our chief decision maker being someone who's not allowed to have any input on some of theΒ top 100 companies around the world seems pretty stupid. It also seems impossible, tons of decisions are going to benefit or not benefit those groups and there's simply no way to avoid that. But even more ridiculous is the fact that all of this will be overseen by someone that owes his allegiance to Carney entirely. The opposition won't get to say, we just have to take the liberals word for it that carney never actually whispered in this guy's ear about what he'd like to see or that this guy didn't think he was doing a favor to carney by helping with the decision that might benefit one of those companies. This is 100% inappropriate and corrupt. This is barely even the pretense of trying to avoid conflict of interest. It's a complete joke 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Legato Posted July 12, 2025 Report Posted July 12, 2025 43 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Carney ethics filing: details of conflict of interest screen So yeah, there's about 100 companies that carney is not allowed to have any decisions on because there would be a conflict of interest. First off the idea of having our chief decision maker being someone who's not allowed to have any input on some of theΒ top 100 companies around the world seems pretty stupid. It also seems impossible, tons of decisions are going to benefit or not benefit those groups and there's simply no way to avoid that. But even more ridiculous is the fact that all of this will be overseen by someone that owes his allegiance to Carney entirely. The opposition won't get to say, we just have to take the liberals word for it that carney never actually whispered in this guy's ear about what he'd like to see or that this guy didn't think he was doing a favor to carney by helping with the decision that might benefit one of those companies. This is 100% inappropriate and corrupt. This is barely even the pretense of trying to avoid conflict of interest. It's a complete joke With a get out clause... It also notes he can take part in discussions or decisions that affect the companies if they are βa member of a broad class of persons.β 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted July 12, 2025 Author Report Posted July 12, 2025 the whole thing is an exercise in optics only and will not in any way shape or form stop him fromparticipating in stuff that will benefit these companies who will reward him when he gets out of office 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Legato Posted July 12, 2025 Report Posted July 12, 2025 12 minutes ago, CdnFox said: benefit these companies who will reward him when he gets out of office The ones that make elbow pads. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 12, 2025 Report Posted July 12, 2025 4 minutes ago, Legato said: The ones that make elbow pads. Carney only wears elbow pads in propaganda pieces. He wears knee pads to DC. 1 1 Quote If theΒ Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist BroadcastingΒ Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just aΒ parableΒ about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Nefarious Banana Posted July 12, 2025 Report Posted July 12, 2025 9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Carney only wears elbow pads in propaganda pieces. He wears knee pads to DC. 'The Carney' . . . drop your drawers, grab your ankles. Doing 'The Carney' . . . Ottawa's new dance craze ? 1 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted July 12, 2025 Report Posted July 12, 2025 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: Carney ethics filing: details of conflict of interest screen So yeah, there's about 100 companies that carney is not allowed to have any decisions on because there would be a conflict of interest. First off the idea of having our chief decision maker being someone who's not allowed to have any input on some of theΒ top 100 companies around the world seems pretty stupid. It also seems impossible, tons of decisions are going to benefit or not benefit those groups and there's simply no way to avoid that. But even more ridiculous is the fact that all of this will be overseen by someone that owes his allegiance to Carney entirely. The opposition won't get to say, we just have to take the liberals word for it that carney never actually whispered in this guy's ear about what he'd like to see or that this guy didn't think he was doing a favor to carney by helping with the decision that might benefit one of those companies. This is 100% inappropriate and corrupt. This is barely even the pretense of trying to avoid conflict of interest. It's a complete joke Not only are you incapable of critical thinking, you seem to have trouble understanding what obligation to the Conflict of Interest Act means, and that he has compiled with it. Β End of story.Β Something for you to ponder.... Β PP said he moved all his US equities to Canadian companies when Trump started his rhetoric. Β Wonder what Canadian companies he's invested in? 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted July 13, 2025 Author Report Posted July 13, 2025 56 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Not only are you incapable of critical thinking, you seem to have trouble understanding what obligation to the Conflict of Interest Act means, and that he has compiled with it. Β End of story.Β OH NOES!!!Β TRIGGERED LOSER LEFTIE IS TRIGGERED!!!!!!Β Β π LOL Every single time you're wrong and can't make an argument this is what you're like Β It's hilarious! "end of story" translationΒ = i absolutely know you're right and there's a serious problem here but i don't want anyone to talk about it Β LOL Your response strongly says that you know there's a major problem here and that this is corrupt.Β obviously this doesn't stop conflicts and interest for carney in the slightest.Β And we absolutely have every right and responsibility to question this. The fact that something is legal does not mean it's not corrupt.Β It's obvious that this is going to leave a huge amount of room for him to do favors for businesses that he has connections to which will pay him when he gets out. That's a problem 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Legato Posted July 13, 2025 Report Posted July 13, 2025 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: Not only are you incapable of critical thinking, you seem to have trouble understanding what obligation to the Conflict of Interest Act means, and that he has compiled with it. Β End of story.Β Β Something for you to ponder.... Β PP said he moved all his US equities to Canadian companies when Trump started his rhetoric. Β Wonder what Canadian companies he's invested in? It's a good idea to pull the woolly sweater all the way past the head. 1 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted July 13, 2025 Report Posted July 13, 2025 23 minutes ago, CdnFox said: OH NOES!!!Β TRIGGERED LOSER LEFTIE IS TRIGGERED!!!!!!Β Β π LOL Every single time you're wrong and can't make an argument this is what you're like Β It's hilarious! "end of story" translationΒ = i absolutely know you're right and there's a serious problem here but i don't want anyone to talk about it Β LOL Your response strongly says that you know there's a major problem here and that this is corrupt.Β obviously this doesn't stop conflicts and interest for carney in the slightest.Β And we absolutely have every right and responsibility to question this. The fact that something is legal does not mean it's not corrupt.Β It's obvious that this is going to leave a huge amount of room for him to do favors for businesses that he has connections to which will pay him when he gets out. That's a problem We have something that's called the Conflict of Interest Act. He has complied with that and his holdings have gone into into a blind trust. Carney worked in the private sector with Brookfield and others, and has been successful professionally and financially. That's your definition of corrupt? Other than you missing PP, what's the problem. Β Do you suggest that all Premiers or members of Cabinet can no longer hold stock in their portfolio's? Β Again, where do you think PP's Canadian stock holdings are? 1 1 Quote
Legato Posted July 13, 2025 Report Posted July 13, 2025 2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: We have something that's called the Conflict of Interest Act. He has complied with that and his holdings have gone into into a blind trust. Carney worked in the private sector with Brookfield and others, and has been successful professionally and financially. That's your definition of corrupt? Other than you missing PP, what's the problem. Β Do you suggest that all Premiers or members of Cabinet can no longer hold stock in their portfolio's? Β Again, where do you think PP's Canadian stock holdings are? When did PP become PM? 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted July 13, 2025 Report Posted July 13, 2025 20 minutes ago, Legato said: It's a good idea to pull the woolly sweater all the way past the head. It's good to be oblivious as well.... 1 minute ago, Legato said: When did PP become PM? The principle doesn't change 1 Quote
eyeball Posted July 13, 2025 Report Posted July 13, 2025 5 hours ago, CdnFox said: This is 100% inappropriate and corrupt. This is barely even the pretense of trying to avoid conflict of interest. It's a complete joke Oh well buck up and look on the bright side, I doubt you'll have to worry about anyone wearing a camera - that would never do would it? 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Legato Posted July 13, 2025 Report Posted July 13, 2025 54 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: It's good to be oblivious as well.... The principle doesn't change Oh look over there, another bin full of whataboutery. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted July 13, 2025 Report Posted July 13, 2025 Well, if Carneyβs chief of staff is overseeing it, the buck stops there and they wonβt be able to deflect if something shady comes up. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 13, 2025 Author Report Posted July 13, 2025 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: We have something that's called the Conflict of Interest Act. He has complied with that and his holdings have gone into into a blind trust. And he can bypass it in about 3 seconds. We have all kinds of acts, but that didn't stop Justin Trudeau for example from trying to get his buddies at snc off in court illegally. I have no doubt Mr Carney will be more successful than he was if he puts his mind to it. So the bottom line is the fact that there's a law doesn't mean that what's going on isn't corrupt and criminal. It does mean he's going to be able to cover his tracks and have the appearance of being above board but that is not the same thing 55 minutes ago, Aristides said: Well, if Carneyβs chief of staff is overseeing it, the buck stops there and they wonβt be able to deflect if something shady comes up. The liberals have spent the last 10 years deflecting when something shady came up about once every 3 months. Liberal supporters refuse to punish them 1 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Barquentine Posted July 13, 2025 Report Posted July 13, 2025 15 hours ago, CdnFox said: This is barely even the pretense of trying to avoid conflict of interest. People in glass houses... The Canadian Press Published Aug 28, 2012 "Pointed questions are beginning to swirl around Nigel Wright, Prime Minister Stephen Harperβs chief of staff, and whether he used his position to further the financial interests of friends at Barrick Gold Corp. On the advice of the federal ethics watchdog, Wright set up a βconflict of interest screenβ when he joined the Prime Ministerβs Office." Postmedia News Published Mar 23, 2012 "Prime Minister Stephen Harper indicated Friday he has no intention of punishing Christian Paradis after the federal ethics commissioner found the industry minister to have been in a conflict of interest after arranging meetings for former Tory MP Rahim Jaffer." BTW: I see PeePee has no qualms about doing a CBC interview now that he's becoming irrelevant. Reeks of desperation. 1 Quote
Legato Posted July 13, 2025 Report Posted July 13, 2025 24 minutes ago, Barquentine said: People in glass houses... The Canadian Press Published Aug 28, 2012 "Pointed questions are beginning to swirl around Nigel Wright, Prime Minister Stephen Harperβs chief of staff, and whether he used his position to further the financial interests of friends at Barrick Gold Corp. On the advice of the federal ethics watchdog, Wright set up a βconflict of interest screenβ when he joined the Prime Ministerβs Office." Postmedia News Published Mar 23, 2012 "Prime Minister Stephen Harper indicated Friday he has no intention of punishing Christian Paradis after the federal ethics commissioner found the industry minister to have been in a conflict of interest after arranging meetings for former Tory MP Rahim Jaffer." BTW: I see PeePee has no qualms about doing a CBC interview now that he's becoming irrelevant. Reeks of desperation. I remember the Liberals' at the time running around like headless chickens over that. Glass houses indeed. BTW PP will do an interview with anyone if asked. The CBC must think he's relevant. 1 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted July 13, 2025 Report Posted July 13, 2025 1 hour ago, Legato said: I remember the Liberals' at the time running around like headless chickens over that. Glass houses indeed. BTW PP will do an interview with anyone if asked. The CBC must think he's relevant. They are....saw bits of it. Β CBC thinks it's relevant to tell the story of how a political leader that for all intents and purposes had an election in the bag with a 29% lead with mere months to go has become irrelevant this quickly. Β Alas, hero to zero in a Carney moment...Β π Great interview though.... Β PeeWee, how would you negotiate better for Canada? Β 'We'd fight to protect our jobs'...fcuk this guy is savvy....hope Carney has thought of that! Β PeeWee, how you you negotiate differently? Β 'We wouldn't put a timeline on, that just helps the other side'. Β Guessing he picked up that crafty ploy on his paperboy route? 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted July 13, 2025 Author Report Posted July 13, 2025 3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: They are....saw bits of it. Β CBC thinks it's relevant to tell the story of how a political leader that for all intents and purposes had an election in the bag with a 29% lead with mere months to go has become irrelevant this quickly. Β Alas, hero to zero in a Carney moment...Β π Great interview though.... Β PeeWee, how would you negotiate better for Canada? Β 'We'd fight to protect our jobs'...fcuk this guy is savvy....hope Carney has thought of that! Β PeeWee, how you you negotiate differently? Β 'We wouldn't put a timeline on, that just helps the other side'. Β Guessing he picked up that crafty ploy on his paperboy route? Oh look who's lying again to try and salvage his buthurt feelingsΒ Β Would you like to tell me when it was that Poilievre had a 29% lead over carney?Β When did that happen exactly? What pollΒ said that? What's that you say??? NONE?!?!!? He never even had that over Justin. I mean you are seriously proposing that at some point Justin was at 20 and Poilievre was at 50 in the aggregates? When you have to lie to try and make your point, you probably don't have a very good point 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Legato Posted July 13, 2025 Report Posted July 13, 2025 4 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: They are....saw bits of it. Β CBC thinks it's relevant to tell the story of how a political leader that for all intents and purposes had an election in the bag with a 29% lead with mere months to go has become irrelevant this quickly. Β Alas, hero to zero in a Carney moment...Β π Great interview though.... Β PeeWee, how would you negotiate better for Canada? Β 'We'd fight to protect our jobs'...fcuk this guy is savvy....hope Carney has thought of that! Β PeeWee, how you you negotiate differently? Β 'We wouldn't put a timeline on, that just helps the other side'. Β Guessing he picked up that crafty ploy on his paperboy route? Carney was watching the CBC interview with rapt attention in the hope h could glean some more pointers. After all the Carney is bereft of any of his own. 1 Quote
PIK Posted July 13, 2025 Report Posted July 13, 2025 PP is still being attacked by the left, they must be scared shitless of him.Β 1 1 Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
ExFlyer Posted July 13, 2025 Report Posted July 13, 2025 5 hours ago, Legato said: I remember the Liberals' at the time running around like headless chickens over that. Glass houses indeed. BTW PP will do an interview with anyone if asked. The CBC must think he's relevant. The Conservatives never breached the ethics code...Oh wait, during Harpers reign alone there was: Gazebo man when a Harper cabinet minister used money allocated for border control to build gazebos in his riding. Spent 100 million on advertising conservative so-called Action plan that did nothing like claimed. The G8/G20 summits hosted by Canada in 2010, under Prime Minister Stephen Harper, cost an estimated $1.1 billion. Painted a government plane in conservative colours. Then of course there is Duffy being used to raise money for the party with the government paying for his travel. Duffy wins again with him misstating his residence and the conservatives secretly giving hush money. Conservatives were found guilty for breaking election laws. Robocalls were a junior conservative took the fall for them when it is known that someone else had access to the information allowing them Conservatives in contempt of parliament twice for minister lying about the defunding of charitable organization KAIROS, and the cabinetβs refusal to reveal the costs of corporate tax cuts, criminal justice measures, and the beleaguered F-35 fighter jet program Then there is a peroging of parliament to prevent a majority in parliament from having a nonconfidence vote on his government. A cabinet minister using a search and rescue helicopter to go fishing. Harper attempted to put an unqualified judge on the supreme court Guilty of exceeded national election spending standards Refusal to follow a court order to share budget info Produces a handbook to sabotage parliamentary committees. A PMO edict absolved political staffers from ever having to testify before parliamentary committees. Among documents deliberately altered in the writing or the quoting by the government: CIDA document by Bev Odaβs office on Kairos; the Senate Committee Report on the Duffy affair; a report by former auditor general Sheila Fraser on financial management. Under fire for Conservatives killing the long form census, Industry Minister Tony Clement falsely stated that StatsCan backed the idea and assured the voluntary substitute would yield valid statistical data. Neither was true, outraged StatsCan sources confirmed. As opposition members claimed the Harper government was out to rig election rules in its favour, Conservative MP Brad Butt rose in the House of Commons to say why the bill was needed -- all the voter fraud he had personally witnessed. Weeks later he rose again to say his statements were false. Delivering his strained apology, he failed to explain why he lied in the first place. The Prime Minister took the unprecedented step of alleging inappropriate conduct by Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin. Facts undermined the credibility of the PMβs position. To protect the RCMP, the government retroactively made an old bill come into force before it was passed by Parliament. The Globe and Mail revealed that Harperβs chosen Minister for Democratic Reform Pierre Poilievre commissioned a team of public servants for overtime work on a Sunday to film him glad-handing constituents. The vanity video on the taxpayer dime was to promote the governmentβs benefits for families. Bruce Carson. He was a convicted fraudster before Harper made him a key advisor in the PMO. There, Carson was lobbied for money for a new University of Calgary eco-think tank. Many new roadblocks have been put up by the Harper Conservatives. Former Information Commissioner Robert Marleau concluded that having obtained absolute power, the prime minister βhas absolutely abused that power to the maximum.β The PMO took an unprecedented step in instituting a system wherein the bureaucracy has all its communications vetted by the political nerve centre. Ostensibly neutral public servants were used as stooges, falsely posing as new citizens in a staged Citizenship Renewal public relations exercise by the Immigration Department. Media critics had a field day comparing the charade to practices undertaken by North Korean dictators. Attacked a nuclear regulator for not allowing the conservatives to start a reactor before it met all the requirements. On an Iraq visit, the PMO was caught lying to try and cover up the leak of a promo video, which constituted a security breach. The PMO, noted a National Post editorial, βstumbled from blunder to evasion and falsehood in the service of shamelessly manipulative partisanship, especially in using our troops as PR props.β Public servants were told to use βHarper Governmentβ instead of βGovernment of Canadaβ in publicity releases. The Conservatives denied it was happening -- until internal memos revealed by the Canadian Press revealed the denial to be without basis. The auditor general ruled Conservatives diverted $ 50 million from spending slated for border infrastructure to political spending on projects in Tony Clementβs riding at the time of the G-8 summit. Parliament was willfully misled. After promising a new way, the prime minister dismantled his newly created Public Appointments Commission and reverted to old-styled patronage by the barrel. In June 2015, the PM made 98 patronage appointments. That included stocking the National Capital Commission with loyalists in advance of decisions on the controversial monument to the victims of communism. Top scientists came under such heavy monitoring by the Conservatives that they staged βDeath of Evidenceβ protests for being denied freedom of speech. The Conservatives sent out chaperones or βmedia mindersβ to track Environment Canada scientists and report on them. Veteran TV cameraman Dave Ellis covered a Harper speech about oil to a business audience. Though media had been instructed no questions allowed, Ellis posed one about charges laid against a Conservative MP. The PMO tried to punish Ellis and his network by kicking him off covering Harperβs trip to Malaysia. After media hue and cry, Harper backed down and Ellis went. In the gun registration debate, incriminating research and documents such as a Firearms Report were deliberately withheld from the public. While ramping up their prison building, Conservatives suppressed related research and studies contradicting their political priorities. Not all charities, just the ones that donβt seem adequately aligned with the Harper brand. Enough to include many environmental, aid, human rights and free speech charities that banded together to push back against what looks like a politically motivated witch hunt. Medical files of Sean Bruyea, a strong advocate for veteransβ rights, were leaked in a case that privacy commissioner Jennifer Stoddart described as βalarming.β Veterans Affairs Canada ombudsman Pat Stogran was dumped after criticizing the government. Dean Del Maestro was one of Harperβs favorites. As his parliamentary secretary, the PM frequently used him as an attack dog to allege misdeeds by opposition members. Del Maestro was given a jail sentence in June for his election spending violations. Peter Penashue, another Harper Conservative was compelled to step down over election spending violations. In an attempted smear in the last week of the 2011 election campaign, a senior Harper strategist planted a false story in Sun Media that Michael Ignatieff was an Iraq war planner. (Neither Conservative operatives nor Sun Media opted to make hay with the true story that Stephen Harper had, while the leader of the Canadian Alliance in 2003, published a letter in The Wall Street Journal itching to get Canada into that disastrous war and slamming then PM Jean Chretien for saying no.) In one instance that brought on allegations of Nixonian tactics, junior PMO staffers in the guise of normal citizens were sent out to disrupt a Justin Trudeau speech. The Fair Elections Act also makes it harder for Canadians to vote as more ID is required. Nationwide protests in which more than 400 academics took part forced Pierre Poilievre to withdraw some measures in the bill because of their alleged anti-democratic bent. Dona Cadman says that her husband told her that prior to the vote, two Conservative Party officials, later suggested to be Tom Flanagan and Doug Finley, offered her husband a million-dollar life insurance policy in exchange for his vote against the Liberal budget in May 2005, the rationale being replacement of the life insurance that is part of an MP's compensation package (since Cadman was not running for re-election and would thus not die an MP if he voted down the government).[2] An audio tape suggests then-opposition leader Stephen Harper was not only aware of a financial offer to Chuck Cadman but gave it his personal approval Then of course there are the cases where Canadian citizens of colour were not only not helped in foreign countries but in one case obstructed. When a white woman from Alberta got in trouble in mexico the Harper government reacted quickly and put out quite a bit of pressure. Regarding abuses of Afgan prisoners. Parliament was misled and denied documents. An inquiry was shut down. Tories attempted to discredit diplomat Richard Colvin whose testimony diverted from the governmentβs line. Criticized far and wide for farcical answers in question period, Paul Calandra, parliamentary secretary to Harper, made a tearful apology for abuse of the democratic process. In another example of partisanship taken to new heights, the PMO blocked opposition members from being accredited for international environment conferences and from visiting military bases. The auditor general sounded alarms about the βprodigiousβ growth and size of federal borrowing. Those billions in βnon-budgetaryβ spending used to get Parliamentβs oversight, but no more. The finance minister can borrow what he wants without Parliamentβs permission. Why? A loophole buried in a 2007 Harper omnibus bill. The most controversial was the case of former Integrity Commissioner Christiane Ouimet. Her office reviewed more than 200 whistleblowing cases. Disciplinary action followed on none of them. Ouimetβs own angry staffers blew the whistle on their boss. The auditor general found Ouimet intimidated her employees, took βretaliatory actionβ against them and may have breached their privacy, all part of the Harper appointeeβs βgross mismanagement.β Ouimet was paid more than $500,000 to leave her post. Emulating George W. Bushβs optics tactics, Stephen Harper banned media coverage of fallen soldiersβ caskets returning from Afghanistan. He also refused to lower the flag half-mast. Soldiersβ family members expressed confusion and anger at the perceived show of disrespect. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted July 13, 2025 Author Report Posted July 13, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, PIK said: PP is still being attacked by the left, they must be scared shitless of him.Β Yeah I noticed that. She went after him hard, But I thought he did a pretty good job 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: The Conservatives never breached the ethics code...Oh wait, during Harpers reign alone there was: Gazebo man when a Harper cabinet minister used money allocated for border control to build gazebos in his riding. Spent 100 million on advertising conservative so-called Action plan that did nothing like claimed. The G8/G20 summits hosted by Canada in 2010, under Prime Minister Stephen Harper, cost an estimated $1.1 billion. Painted a government plane in conservative colours. Then of course there is Duffy being used to raise money for the party with the government paying for his travel. Duffy wins again with him misstating his residence and the conservatives secretly giving hush money. Conservatives were found guilty for breaking election laws. Robocalls were a junior conservative took the fall for them when it is known that someone else had access to the information allowing them Conservatives in contempt of parliament twice for minister lying about the defunding of charitable organization KAIROS, and the cabinetβs refusal to reveal the costs of corporate tax cuts, criminal justice measures, and the beleaguered F-35 fighter jet program Then there is a peroging of parliament to prevent a majority in parliament from having a nonconfidence vote on his government. A cabinet minister using a search and rescue helicopter to go fishing. Harper attempted to put an unqualified judge on the supreme court Guilty of exceeded national election spending standards Refusal to follow a court order to share budget info Produces a handbook to sabotage parliamentary committees. A PMO edict absolved political staffers from ever having to testify before parliamentary committees. Among documents deliberately altered in the writing or the quoting by the government: CIDA document by Bev Odaβs office on Kairos; the Senate Committee Report on the Duffy affair; a report by former auditor general Sheila Fraser on financial management. Under fire for Conservatives killing the long form census, Industry Minister Tony Clement falsely stated that StatsCan backed the idea and assured the voluntary substitute would yield valid statistical data. Neither was true, outraged StatsCan sources confirmed. As opposition members claimed the Harper government was out to rig election rules in its favour, Conservative MP Brad Butt rose in the House of Commons to say why the bill was needed -- all the voter fraud he had personally witnessed. Weeks later he rose again to say his statements were false. Delivering his strained apology, he failed to explain why he lied in the first place. The Prime Minister took the unprecedented step of alleging inappropriate conduct by Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin. Facts undermined the credibility of the PMβs position. To protect the RCMP, the government retroactively made an old bill come into force before it was passed by Parliament. The Globe and Mail revealed that Harperβs chosen Minister for Democratic Reform Pierre Poilievre commissioned a team of public servants for overtime work on a Sunday to film him glad-handing constituents. The vanity video on the taxpayer dime was to promote the governmentβs benefits for families. Bruce Carson. He was a convicted fraudster before Harper made him a key advisor in the PMO. There, Carson was lobbied for money for a new University of Calgary eco-think tank. Many new roadblocks have been put up by the Harper Conservatives. Former Information Commissioner Robert Marleau concluded that having obtained absolute power, the prime minister βhas absolutely abused that power to the maximum.β The PMO took an unprecedented step in instituting a system wherein the bureaucracy has all its communications vetted by the political nerve centre. Ostensibly neutral public servants were used as stooges, falsely posing as new citizens in a staged Citizenship Renewal public relations exercise by the Immigration Department. Media critics had a field day comparing the charade to practices undertaken by North Korean dictators. Attacked a nuclear regulator for not allowing the conservatives to start a reactor before it met all the requirements. On an Iraq visit, the PMO was caught lying to try and cover up the leak of a promo video, which constituted a security breach. The PMO, noted a National Post editorial, βstumbled from blunder to evasion and falsehood in the service of shamelessly manipulative partisanship, especially in using our troops as PR props.β Public servants were told to use βHarper Governmentβ instead of βGovernment of Canadaβ in publicity releases. The Conservatives denied it was happening -- until internal memos revealed by the Canadian Press revealed the denial to be without basis. The auditor general ruled Conservatives diverted $ 50 million from spending slated for border infrastructure to political spending on projects in Tony Clementβs riding at the time of the G-8 summit. Parliament was willfully misled. After promising a new way, the prime minister dismantled his newly created Public Appointments Commission and reverted to old-styled patronage by the barrel. In June 2015, the PM made 98 patronage appointments. That included stocking the National Capital Commission with loyalists in advance of decisions on the controversial monument to the victims of communism. Top scientists came under such heavy monitoring by the Conservatives that they staged βDeath of Evidenceβ protests for being denied freedom of speech. The Conservatives sent out chaperones or βmedia mindersβ to track Environment Canada scientists and report on them. Veteran TV cameraman Dave Ellis covered a Harper speech about oil to a business audience. Though media had been instructed no questions allowed, Ellis posed one about charges laid against a Conservative MP. The PMO tried to punish Ellis and his network by kicking him off covering Harperβs trip to Malaysia. After media hue and cry, Harper backed down and Ellis went. In the gun registration debate, incriminating research and documents such as a Firearms Report were deliberately withheld from the public. While ramping up their prison building, Conservatives suppressed related research and studies contradicting their political priorities. Not all charities, just the ones that donβt seem adequately aligned with the Harper brand. Enough to include many environmental, aid, human rights and free speech charities that banded together to push back against what looks like a politically motivated witch hunt. Medical files of Sean Bruyea, a strong advocate for veteransβ rights, were leaked in a case that privacy commissioner Jennifer Stoddart described as βalarming.β Veterans Affairs Canada ombudsman Pat Stogran was dumped after criticizing the government. Dean Del Maestro was one of Harperβs favorites. As his parliamentary secretary, the PM frequently used him as an attack dog to allege misdeeds by opposition members. Del Maestro was given a jail sentence in June for his election spending violations. Peter Penashue, another Harper Conservative was compelled to step down over election spending violations. In an attempted smear in the last week of the 2011 election campaign, a senior Harper strategist planted a false story in Sun Media that Michael Ignatieff was an Iraq war planner. (Neither Conservative operatives nor Sun Media opted to make hay with the true story that Stephen Harper had, while the leader of the Canadian Alliance in 2003, published a letter in The Wall Street Journal itching to get Canada into that disastrous war and slamming then PM Jean Chretien for saying no.) In one instance that brought on allegations of Nixonian tactics, junior PMO staffers in the guise of normal citizens were sent out to disrupt a Justin Trudeau speech. The Fair Elections Act also makes it harder for Canadians to vote as more ID is required. Nationwide protests in which more than 400 academics took part forced Pierre Poilievre to withdraw some measures in the bill because of their alleged anti-democratic bent. Dona Cadman says that her husband told her that prior to the vote, two Conservative Party officials, later suggested to be Tom Flanagan and Doug Finley, offered her husband a million-dollar life insurance policy in exchange for his vote against the Liberal budget in May 2005, the rationale being replacement of the life insurance that is part of an MP's compensation package (since Cadman was not running for re-election and would thus not die an MP if he voted down the government).[2] An audio tape suggests then-opposition leader Stephen Harper was not only aware of a financial offer to Chuck Cadman but gave it his personal approval Then of course there are the cases where Canadian citizens of colour were not only not helped in foreign countries but in one case obstructed. When a white woman from Alberta got in trouble in mexico the Harper government reacted quickly and put out quite a bit of pressure. Regarding abuses of Afgan prisoners. Parliament was misled and denied documents. An inquiry was shut down. Tories attempted to discredit diplomat Richard Colvin whose testimony diverted from the governmentβs line. Criticized far and wide for farcical answers in question period, Paul Calandra, parliamentary secretary to Harper, made a tearful apology for abuse of the democratic process. In another example of partisanship taken to new heights, the PMO blocked opposition members from being accredited for international environment conferences and from visiting military bases. The auditor general sounded alarms about the βprodigiousβ growth and size of federal borrowing. Those billions in βnon-budgetaryβ spending used to get Parliamentβs oversight, but no more. The finance minister can borrow what he wants without Parliamentβs permission. Why? A loophole buried in a 2007 Harper omnibus bill. The most controversial was the case of former Integrity Commissioner Christiane Ouimet. Her office reviewed more than 200 whistleblowing cases. Disciplinary action followed on none of them. Ouimetβs own angry staffers blew the whistle on their boss. The auditor general found Ouimet intimidated her employees, took βretaliatory actionβ against them and may have breached their privacy, all part of the Harper appointeeβs βgross mismanagement.β Ouimet was paid more than $500,000 to leave her post. Emulating George W. Bushβs optics tactics, Stephen Harper banned media coverage of fallen soldiersβ caskets returning from Afghanistan. He also refused to lower the flag half-mast. Soldiersβ family members expressed confusion and anger at the perceived show of disrespect. Yeah all those are basically lies if you're going to try and pass them off as ethics. Not a single one of them even begins to measure up to any of the crap trudeau pulled, and carney seems to be bound and determined to beat trudeau Edited July 13, 2025 by CdnFox 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Legato Posted July 13, 2025 Report Posted July 13, 2025 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: The Conservatives never breached the ethics code...Oh wait, during Harpers reign alone there was: Gazebo man when a Harper cabinet minister used money allocated for border control to build gazebos in his riding. Spent 100 million on advertising conservative so-called Action plan that did nothing like claimed. The G8/G20 summits hosted by Canada in 2010, under Prime Minister Stephen Harper, cost an estimated $1.1 billion. Painted a government plane in conservative colours. Then of course there is Duffy being used to raise money for the party with the government paying for his travel. Duffy wins again with him misstating his residence and the conservatives secretly giving hush money. Conservatives were found guilty for breaking election laws. Robocalls were a junior conservative took the fall for them when it is known that someone else had access to the information allowing them Conservatives in contempt of parliament twice for minister lying about the defunding of charitable organization KAIROS, and the cabinetβs refusal to reveal the costs of corporate tax cuts, criminal justice measures, and the beleaguered F-35 fighter jet program Then there is a peroging of parliament to prevent a majority in parliament from having a nonconfidence vote on his government. A cabinet minister using a search and rescue helicopter to go fishing. Harper attempted to put an unqualified judge on the supreme court Guilty of exceeded national election spending standards Refusal to follow a court order to share budget info Produces a handbook to sabotage parliamentary committees. A PMO edict absolved political staffers from ever having to testify before parliamentary committees. Among documents deliberately altered in the writing or the quoting by the government: CIDA document by Bev Odaβs office on Kairos; the Senate Committee Report on the Duffy affair; a report by former auditor general Sheila Fraser on financial management. Under fire for Conservatives killing the long form census, Industry Minister Tony Clement falsely stated that StatsCan backed the idea and assured the voluntary substitute would yield valid statistical data. Neither was true, outraged StatsCan sources confirmed. As opposition members claimed the Harper government was out to rig election rules in its favour, Conservative MP Brad Butt rose in the House of Commons to say why the bill was needed -- all the voter fraud he had personally witnessed. Weeks later he rose again to say his statements were false. Delivering his strained apology, he failed to explain why he lied in the first place. The Prime Minister took the unprecedented step of alleging inappropriate conduct by Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin. Facts undermined the credibility of the PMβs position. To protect the RCMP, the government retroactively made an old bill come into force before it was passed by Parliament. The Globe and Mail revealed that Harperβs chosen Minister for Democratic Reform Pierre Poilievre commissioned a team of public servants for overtime work on a Sunday to film him glad-handing constituents. The vanity video on the taxpayer dime was to promote the governmentβs benefits for families. Bruce Carson. He was a convicted fraudster before Harper made him a key advisor in the PMO. There, Carson was lobbied for money for a new University of Calgary eco-think tank. Many new roadblocks have been put up by the Harper Conservatives. Former Information Commissioner Robert Marleau concluded that having obtained absolute power, the prime minister βhas absolutely abused that power to the maximum.β The PMO took an unprecedented step in instituting a system wherein the bureaucracy has all its communications vetted by the political nerve centre. Ostensibly neutral public servants were used as stooges, falsely posing as new citizens in a staged Citizenship Renewal public relations exercise by the Immigration Department. Media critics had a field day comparing the charade to practices undertaken by North Korean dictators. Attacked a nuclear regulator for not allowing the conservatives to start a reactor before it met all the requirements. On an Iraq visit, the PMO was caught lying to try and cover up the leak of a promo video, which constituted a security breach. The PMO, noted a National Post editorial, βstumbled from blunder to evasion and falsehood in the service of shamelessly manipulative partisanship, especially in using our troops as PR props.β Public servants were told to use βHarper Governmentβ instead of βGovernment of Canadaβ in publicity releases. The Conservatives denied it was happening -- until internal memos revealed by the Canadian Press revealed the denial to be without basis. The auditor general ruled Conservatives diverted $ 50 million from spending slated for border infrastructure to political spending on projects in Tony Clementβs riding at the time of the G-8 summit. Parliament was willfully misled. After promising a new way, the prime minister dismantled his newly created Public Appointments Commission and reverted to old-styled patronage by the barrel. In June 2015, the PM made 98 patronage appointments. That included stocking the National Capital Commission with loyalists in advance of decisions on the controversial monument to the victims of communism. Top scientists came under such heavy monitoring by the Conservatives that they staged βDeath of Evidenceβ protests for being denied freedom of speech. The Conservatives sent out chaperones or βmedia mindersβ to track Environment Canada scientists and report on them. Veteran TV cameraman Dave Ellis covered a Harper speech about oil to a business audience. Though media had been instructed no questions allowed, Ellis posed one about charges laid against a Conservative MP. The PMO tried to punish Ellis and his network by kicking him off covering Harperβs trip to Malaysia. After media hue and cry, Harper backed down and Ellis went. In the gun registration debate, incriminating research and documents such as a Firearms Report were deliberately withheld from the public. While ramping up their prison building, Conservatives suppressed related research and studies contradicting their political priorities. Not all charities, just the ones that donβt seem adequately aligned with the Harper brand. Enough to include many environmental, aid, human rights and free speech charities that banded together to push back against what looks like a politically motivated witch hunt. Medical files of Sean Bruyea, a strong advocate for veteransβ rights, were leaked in a case that privacy commissioner Jennifer Stoddart described as βalarming.β Veterans Affairs Canada ombudsman Pat Stogran was dumped after criticizing the government. Dean Del Maestro was one of Harperβs favorites. As his parliamentary secretary, the PM frequently used him as an attack dog to allege misdeeds by opposition members. Del Maestro was given a jail sentence in June for his election spending violations. Peter Penashue, another Harper Conservative was compelled to step down over election spending violations. In an attempted smear in the last week of the 2011 election campaign, a senior Harper strategist planted a false story in Sun Media that Michael Ignatieff was an Iraq war planner. (Neither Conservative operatives nor Sun Media opted to make hay with the true story that Stephen Harper had, while the leader of the Canadian Alliance in 2003, published a letter in The Wall Street Journal itching to get Canada into that disastrous war and slamming then PM Jean Chretien for saying no.) In one instance that brought on allegations of Nixonian tactics, junior PMO staffers in the guise of normal citizens were sent out to disrupt a Justin Trudeau speech. The Fair Elections Act also makes it harder for Canadians to vote as more ID is required. Nationwide protests in which more than 400 academics took part forced Pierre Poilievre to withdraw some measures in the bill because of their alleged anti-democratic bent. Dona Cadman says that her husband told her that prior to the vote, two Conservative Party officials, later suggested to be Tom Flanagan and Doug Finley, offered her husband a million-dollar life insurance policy in exchange for his vote against the Liberal budget in May 2005, the rationale being replacement of the life insurance that is part of an MP's compensation package (since Cadman was not running for re-election and would thus not die an MP if he voted down the government).[2] An audio tape suggests then-opposition leader Stephen Harper was not only aware of a financial offer to Chuck Cadman but gave it his personal approval Then of course there are the cases where Canadian citizens of colour were not only not helped in foreign countries but in one case obstructed. When a white woman from Alberta got in trouble in mexico the Harper government reacted quickly and put out quite a bit of pressure. Regarding abuses of Afgan prisoners. Parliament was misled and denied documents. An inquiry was shut down. Tories attempted to discredit diplomat Richard Colvin whose testimony diverted from the governmentβs line. Criticized far and wide for farcical answers in question period, Paul Calandra, parliamentary secretary to Harper, made a tearful apology for abuse of the democratic process. In another example of partisanship taken to new heights, the PMO blocked opposition members from being accredited for international environment conferences and from visiting military bases. The auditor general sounded alarms about the βprodigiousβ growth and size of federal borrowing. Those billions in βnon-budgetaryβ spending used to get Parliamentβs oversight, but no more. The finance minister can borrow what he wants without Parliamentβs permission. Why? A loophole buried in a 2007 Harper omnibus bill. The most controversial was the case of former Integrity Commissioner Christiane Ouimet. Her office reviewed more than 200 whistleblowing cases. Disciplinary action followed on none of them. Ouimetβs own angry staffers blew the whistle on their boss. The auditor general found Ouimet intimidated her employees, took βretaliatory actionβ against them and may have breached their privacy, all part of the Harper appointeeβs βgross mismanagement.β Ouimet was paid more than $500,000 to leave her post. Emulating George W. Bushβs optics tactics, Stephen Harper banned media coverage of fallen soldiersβ caskets returning from Afghanistan. He also refused to lower the flag half-mast. Soldiersβ family members expressed confusion and anger at the perceived show of disrespect. The AI you quoted there must have garnered that info on a Friday afternoon tempered with a large dose of "look over there, there's some whataboutery afoot. Β 2 Quote
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