The Trump admin and ICE arrested a woman and her children who are in the U.S. legally

[blackbird]

"A mother and her two young kids are fighting for their release from a Texas immigration detention center in what is believed to be the first lawsuit involving children challenging the Trump administration's policy on immigrant arrests at courthouses.

The lawsuit filed Tuesday argues that the family's arrests after fleeing Honduras and entering the U.S. legally using a Biden-era appointment app violate their Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizure and their Fifth Amendment right to due process."

Migrant Family Files First Lawsuit Challenging ICE Courthouse Arrests Involving Children

I just found this article which I had lost earlier that explains how they entered the country legally using a Biden-era appointment app.   So they were arrested illegally.  The arrest was contrary to the Constitution as the article explains here:

Family sues over US detention in what may be first challenge to courthouse arrests involving kids

There are many other shocking arrests and deportations.

"HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers have in recent days deported the Cuban-born mother of a 1-year-old girl — separating them indefinitely — and three children ages 2, 4 and 7 who are U.S. citizens along with their Honduran-born mothers, their lawyers said Saturday.

The three cases raise questions about who is being deported, and why, and come amid a battle in federal courts over whether President Donald Trump’s immigration crackdown has gone too far and too quickly at the expense of fundamental rights.

Lawyers in the cases described how the women were arrested at routine check-ins at ICE offices, given virtually no opportunity to speak with lawyers or their family members and then deported within three days or less.

The American Civil Liberties Union, National Immigration Project and several other allied groups said in a statement that the way ICE deported children who are U.S. citizens and their mothers is a “shocking — although increasingly common — abuse of power.”

ICE deports immigrant mother of infant and three children who are US citizens, lawyers say | AP News

These are horrendous crimes against humanity.  That this is happening in a supposedly democratic country where human rights are supposed to exist is sad.  Time to take down the Statue of Liberty.

Edited June 28, 2025 by blackbird

[robosmith]

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[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, robosmith said:

^This is what the MAGA CULT and white supremacists voted for: MAWA (Make America White Again) 🤮

Ahhh we can always count on you to be racist  

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

"Migrant Family Files First Lawsuit Challenging ICE Courthouse Arrests Involving Children

A Honduran family was arrested at an immigration courthouse under a new ICE directive permitting arrests of minors. They face expedited removal and detention in Texas. Their lawsuit argues constitutional violations, highlighting legal and humanitarian concerns in current immigration enforcement policies.

Last updated: June 27, 2025 9:19 am

• Honduran family arrested at LA Immigration Court May 29, 2025, after asylum case dismissal.
• New ICE courthouse arrest directive includes minors, enabling family arrests and expedited deportation.
• Family detained in South Texas Residential Center; legal team challenges constitutional violations.

A Honduran migrant family’s lawsuit against U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), and the Trump administration has sparked national debate and legal scrutiny. The family, a mother and her two children—ages 6 and 9—were arrested at the Los Angeles Immigration Court on May 29, 2025, immediately after their asylum hearing was dismissed. Their arrest is believed to be the first legal challenge specifically targeting the detention of children under the new ICE courthouse arrest directive, which now includes minors. The family is currently detained at the South Texas Family Residential Center in Dilley, Texas, and their attorneys are urgently seeking their release and protection from deportation.

This case has drawn attention not only because of the family’s circumstances—the youngest child is battling leukemia—but also because it highlights the growing use of courthouse arrests and expedited removal procedures against vulnerable populations. The lawsuit raises important questions about due process, constitutional rights, and the treatment of migrant families in the United States  immigration system."

Migrant Family Files First Lawsuit Challenging ICE Courthouse Arrests Involving Children

There are many other shocking arrests and deportations.

"HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers have in recent days deported the Cuban-born mother of a 1-year-old girl — separating them indefinitely — and three children ages 2, 4 and 7 who are U.S. citizens along with their Honduran-born mothers, their lawyers said Saturday.

The three cases raise questions about who is being deported, and why, and come amid a battle in federal courts over whether President Donald Trump’s immigration crackdown has gone too far and too quickly at the expense of fundamental rights.

Lawyers in the cases described how the women were arrested at routine check-ins at ICE offices, given virtually no opportunity to speak with lawyers or their family members and then deported within three days or less.

The American Civil Liberties Union, National Immigration Project and several other allied groups said in a statement that the way ICE deported children who are U.S. citizens and their mothers is a “shocking — although increasingly common — abuse of power.”

ICE deports immigrant mother of infant and three children who are US citizens, lawyers say | AP News

These are horrendous crimes against humanity.  That this is happening in a supposedly democratic country where human rights are supposed to exist is sad.  Time to take down the Statue of Liberty.

Wait, so they weren't actually in the country legally? They had received a due processed and were denied asylum, so They're not allowed to be here anymore?

If you feel that what's happening is ACTUALLY wrong, why did you feel the need to lie about it?

Their claim was denied, they are no longer allowed to stay in the country. There's some vague claim about 'constitutionality' but it sounds like a ploy to extend their stay. We'll see.  

But there's no 'tragedy' here. They came knowing that if they claimed refugee status and were denied they'd have to leave. 

[blackbird]

41 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Wait, so they weren't actually in the country legally?

Actually they were in the country legally.  I lost the original article that explained that.  The article in the OP does not explain that but I found the original article just now.  Sorry for not finding it again sooner and including it.  But this is what it says:

"The lawsuit filed Tuesday argues that the family's arrests after fleeing Honduras and entering the U.S. legally using a Biden-era appointment app violate their Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizure and their Fifth Amendment right to due process."

This explains how they entered the country legally using a Biden-era appointment app.  So arresting them violated the Constitution.

Family sues over US detention in what may be first challenge to courthouse arrests involving kids

[Nationalist]

Lemme get this straight.

A woman and her kids use Brandon's app and get some sort of status. ICE finds them and nabs them.

Q: have any of them broken any US laws?

[Fluffypants]

6 hours ago, blackbird said:

Actually they were in the country legally.  I lost the original article that explained that.  The article in the OP does not explain that but I found the original article just now.  Sorry for not finding it again sooner and including it.  But this is what it says:

"The lawsuit filed Tuesday argues that the family's arrests after fleeing Honduras and entering the U.S. legally using a Biden-era appointment app violate their Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizure and their Fifth Amendment right to due process."

This explains how they entered the country legally using a Biden-era appointment app.  So arresting them violated the Constitution.

Family sues over US detention in what may be first challenge to courthouse arrests involving kids

They were but not anymore, how hard is that to understand? Their case was dismissed, do you know what that means? It means they don't qualify for asylum thus they no longer are allowed in this country. Are they supposed let them go home and risk them running and disappearing?

[Deluge]

9 hours ago, blackbird said:

"A mother and her two young kids are fighting for their release from a Texas immigration detention center in what is believed to be the first lawsuit involving children challenging the Trump administration's policy on immigrant arrests at courthouses.

The lawsuit filed Tuesday argues that the family's arrests after fleeing Honduras and entering the U.S. legally using a Biden-era appointment app violate their Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizure and their Fifth Amendment right to due process."

Migrant Family Files First Lawsuit Challenging ICE Courthouse Arrests Involving Children

I just found this article which I had lost earlier that explains how they entered the country legally using a Biden-era appointment app.   So they were arrested illegally.  The arrest was contrary to the Constitution as the article explains here:

Family sues over US detention in what may be first challenge to courthouse arrests involving kids

There are many other shocking arrests and deportations.

"HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers have in recent days deported the Cuban-born mother of a 1-year-old girl — separating them indefinitely — and three children ages 2, 4 and 7 who are U.S. citizens along with their Honduran-born mothers, their lawyers said Saturday.

The three cases raise questions about who is being deported, and why, and come amid a battle in federal courts over whether President Donald Trump’s immigration crackdown has gone too far and too quickly at the expense of fundamental rights.

Lawyers in the cases described how the women were arrested at routine check-ins at ICE offices, given virtually no opportunity to speak with lawyers or their family members and then deported within three days or less.

The American Civil Liberties Union, National Immigration Project and several other allied groups said in a statement that the way ICE deported children who are U.S. citizens and their mothers is a “shocking — although increasingly common — abuse of power.”

ICE deports immigrant mother of infant and three children who are US citizens, lawyers say | AP News

These are horrendous crimes against humanity.  That this is happening in a supposedly democratic country where human rights are supposed to exist is sad.  Time to take down the Statue of Liberty.

The question is whether Trump can invalidate Biden's appointment apps. I'm going to say he can, since a piece of shit like Joe Biden, shouldn't have the power to break our border laws with his own special little bullshit apps. 

Edited June 28, 2025 by Deluge

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

They were but not anymore, how hard is that to understand?

No, they were admitted legally under a program Biden had in place.  That means they were and are in the country legally.  Just because ICE unlawfully arrested them doesn't mean they are all of a sudden inllegally in the country.  They were arrested contrary to the Constitution and their rights were violated.  Pretty simple to understand.

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lemme get this straight.

A woman and her kids use Brandon's app and get some sort of status. ICE finds them and nabs them.

Q: have any of them broken any US laws?

I don't think the woman and her kids broke any law.  Their Constitutional rights have been violated.

That's just how it goes these days in the good ole America for countless people.  Trump's world.

[gatomontes99]

Lmao...I read the full article and it sounded like totally made up bullshìt. They fled Honduras because they were getting death threats and now her son has cancer and they are scared and crying and praying. 

But, then there is this little nugget: "Their lawyers have filed an appeal of the immigration judge's May decision..."

And there is the truth. They were ordered deported because their claims of death threats were not credible. They were detained because they are in the country illegally. They may have legally filed for asylum but, like the vast majority of claims, they got denied. Now they gotta go. 

 

26 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I don't think the woman and her kids broke any law.  Their Constitutional rights have been violated.

That's just how it goes these days in the good ole America for countless people.  Trump's world.

Wrong. Your own article says they have a deportation order. 

[blackbird]

13 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Lmao...I read the full article and it sounded like totally made up bullshìt.

Everything is bull shit to you.  So what's the point of arguing?

[gatomontes99]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

Everything is bull shit to you.  So what's the point of arguing?

Your own article disproves you. That's not a gatomontes thing. That's a blackbird thing. 

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, blackbird said:

Actually they were in the country legally.  I lost the original article that explained that.  The article in the OP does not explain that but I found the original article just now.  Sorry for not finding it again sooner and including it.  But this is what it says:

"The lawsuit filed Tuesday argues that the family's arrests after fleeing Honduras and entering the U.S. legally using a Biden-era appointment app violate their Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizure and their Fifth Amendment right to due process."

This explains how they entered the country legally using a Biden-era appointment app.  So arresting them violated the Constitution.

Family sues over US detention in what may be first challenge to courthouse arrests involving kids

They stopped being in the country Legally when they lost their court case asking for refugee status.

So the time of their arrest, no. They actually weren't. And yes the story explained that quite clearly.

They went in for their final Court appointment, the court ruled that there claim was not valid and that they wouldn't be granted that status, at that point they became in the country unlawfully and they were detained and are being deported.

You might argue that it would have been nice to give them a little more time to get their final act together say goodbye to everyone but the reality is that's not a requirement under the law or the constitution

[blackbird]

I don't agree.  The whole way of operating under Trump has proven a steady violation of Constitutional rights.

[User]

13 hours ago, blackbird said:

These are horrendous crimes against humanity.  That this is happening in a supposedly democratic country where human rights are supposed to exist is sad.  Time to take down the Statue of Liberty.

This thread is based on a lie. You said they were here legally, they were not. They filed for asylum, it was denied. Now they get deported. 

"immediately after their asylum hearing was dismissed. "

2 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I don't agree.  The whole way of operating under Trump has proven a steady violation of Constitutional rights.

You don't agree?

It is a fact:

"immediately after their asylum hearing was dismissed. "

[blackbird]

"B.C. firefighter says he was denied entry to U.S.: 'Good enough to fight their wars but not good enough to cross their borders'

Flynn said he is a British citizen living in Canada as a permanent resident.

He is a firefighter in Vancouver and volunteers with Squamish Search and Rescue. He has served in the British Parachute Regiment (SFSG) and has also served alongside U.S. forces under Joint Special Operations Command.

“I operated under U.S. command, wore the American uniform, and fought under the American flag. I’ve always felt a strong bond with the United States,” he told National Post. “I have no criminal record and no known issues that would justify this denial.”

In his post on Instagram, he said he trained for the competition in the U.S. for months. “And still, I’m grounded — sidelined not by injury or lack of effort, but by bureaucracy and silence,” he wrote.

Flynn intended to fly to Alabama from Vancouver International Airport on Wednesday. He never made his flight because his Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) had expired and would not be renewed, Global News reported . He said he received an update on the ESTA app that said, “Travel not authorized.”

B.C. firefighter says he was denied entry to U.S.: 'Good enough to fight their wars but not good enough to cross their borders'

[User]

Just gonna keep reposting this until @blackbird acknowledges it:

 

This thread is based on a lie. You said they were here legally, they were not. They filed for asylum, it was denied. Now they get deported. 

"immediately after their asylum hearing was dismissed. "

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, blackbird said:

I don't think the woman and her kids broke any law.  Their Constitutional rights have been violated.

That's just how it goes these days in the good ole America for countless people.  Trump's world.

So...if they were denied asylum, they have to go. That happens to be the law.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

I don't agree.  The whole way of operating under Trump has proven a steady violation of Constitutional rights.

Well that's not an accurate statement. It might be something you feel but it's not based on facts. We've gone over how you severely inflated claims of no due process and so on and so forth and it just doesn't hold water.

Now if you want to come at it from a position of believe that the laws and procedures should be changed and explain why then sure. But the problem is you don't seem to be as worried about what's actually happening as you are about insisting trump is somehow hitler version 2 for doing it. And that argument just doesn't hold water.

So as a result you're not making any kind of convincing argument. What I see is someone that came to the country illegally, was allowed to stay while they pursued a refugee claim, has been denied refugee status after a fair hearings and is now being deported back to their original country. And I failed to see how that is some sort of tragedy. It certainly not a violation of constitutional rights in and of itself

[User]

10 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

So...if they were denied asylum, they have to go. That happens to be the law.

This is exactly why all the arguments folks like @blackbird make about "due process" are BS. 

Here you have someone that got due process, they had their asylum hearing, it was denied... and he still creates a thread lying and complaining about it. 

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, blackbird said:

I don't agree.  The whole way of operating under Trump has proven a steady violation of Constitutional rights.

Huh...we're you this upset when Obama deported all those people?

Doubtful...

[blackbird]

54 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Huh...we're you this upset when Obama deported all those people?

 

Did Obama do all the things Trump and ICE are doing?  I don't think do.  Where is the humanity?  

[Nationalist]

14 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Did Obama do all the things Trump and ICE are doing?  I don't think do.  Where is the humanity?  

They actually did do the same thing. They went out, found illegals and deported them.

Where was your humanity then?

I think you should calm down and realize what was done by Brandon and Co. was despicable. 

[blackbird]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

They actually did do the same thing. They went out, found illegals and deported them.

Where was your humanity then?

I think you should calm down and realize what was done by Brandon and Co. was despicable. 

No. It wasn't the same under Obama.  You know that.