BREAKING: Leaked US intelligence says Iran's nuclear plans “likely only set back months”

[Legato]

57 minutes ago, robosmith said:

As long as a Jewish Theocracy is threatening them with THEIR NUKES. Duh

and which other countries does Israel supply weapons to help with their terrorist activities?

Edited to add.....

Israel is not a theocracy. It is officially a parliamentary democracy with a multi-party system. While it has a strong Jewish identity and religious elements influence some aspects of life, its governmental system is based on democratic principles and institutions. 

Seems like your 'O' pinions are still not meshing correctly.

Edited 18 hours ago by Legato
Aderall for the addled.

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

 

MAD is a thing. North Korea isn't nuking anyone. 

The one thing that's clear is that not having a nuke seems to make it more likely for the likes of the West to continue to bomb and/or invade them to prevent them from making a nuke. 

All these last two weeks have done is ensure Iran will be less transparent about their nuclear power. 

Don't provoke them; just find out what they want and give it to them. 

-- the Left

[Aristides]

20 minutes ago, robosmith said:

^AN OPINION from a right wing "think tank" and Epstein. Records show that enrichment STOPPED.

How do the Iran nuclear deal inspections work?

 

 

They don’t want to hear this, just like they didn’t want to hear it when UN inspectors said Saddam didn’t have WMD’s. A few hundred thousand dead Iraqis and a smashed country later, guess what. The UN inspectors were right. 

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

The entire Middleeast hates the idea of Israel. And that's likely only escalated seeing what they've done to civilians in Gaza. It doesn't mean that Iran would nuke Israel. But it sure would mean that Israel would think twice about attacking Iran. 

Since Iran is an enemy to the West, it's best to support Israel. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

The entire Middleeast hates the idea of Israel. And that's likely only escalated seeing what they've done to civilians in Gaza. It doesn't mean that Iran would nuke Israel. But it sure would mean that Israel would think twice about attacking Iran. 
 

From one assumption to another.

Try living on facts. For instance...

Iran's leaders and religious zealots openly chant death to Isreal. 

Israelis do not chant death to Iran.

[Legato]

2 hours ago, Boges said:

MAD is a thing. North Korea isn't nuking anyone. 

The one thing that's clear is that not having a nuke seems to make it more likely for the likes of the West to continue to bomb and/or invade them to prevent them from making a nuke. 

All these last two weeks have done is ensure Iran will be less transparent about their nuclear power. 

Since when has Iran been transparent about their nuclear development?

[Nationalist]

41 minutes ago, Aristides said:

They don’t want to hear this, just like they didn’t want to hear it when UN inspectors said Saddam didn’t have WMD’s. A few hundred thousand dead Iraqis and a smashed country later, guess what. The UN inspectors were right. 

Uh...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-64810145

 

[Boges]

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

Let's see how the ceasefire goes.

If Iran wants to dish out more stupid, then I'm sure we'll be happy to smack the shit out of them.  

I would expect them to be more insular. Hope everyone forgets about them, so they can achieve their goal. 

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Iran's leaders and religious zealots openly chant death to Israel. 

Israelis do not chant death to Iran.

Does saying "Death to Israel" warrant a war? 

And some would say Zionism is religious zealotry as well. 

[Boges]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Since when has Iran been transparent about their nuclear development?

They were co-operating with the agreement signed with Obama. 

[Deluge]

4 minutes ago, Boges said:

I would expect them to be more insular. Hope everyone forgets about them, so they can achieve their goal. 

My hope is that all leftists relocate to the Middle East. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

I would expect them to be more insular. Hope everyone forgets about them, so they can achieve their goal. 

Does saying "Death to Israel" warrant a war? 

And some would say Zionism is religious zealotry as well. 

As I have stated, I have no love for Israel or the Zionists. But were some religious freaks chanted death to Canada and were secretly enriching uranium way past power generation levels, I'd be ready to bomb the daylights out of them.

I don't like that the USA covertly gave nukrs to Israel. Nor do I like that Israel started this ruckus. But what Iran was doing needed to be stopped.

Edited 16 hours ago by Nationalist

[gatomontes99]

44 minutes ago, Boges said:

They were co-operating with the agreement signed with Obama. 

The problem with the Obama agreement was that it did not stop them from enriching uranium past power generation levels. Further, it enabled the regime to fund terror groups and set up hidden centrifuges. It was a joke of a deal. To make matters worse, after Trump defended Iran, Biden came back and just gave them billions of dollars, ended all sanctions and did not demand anything in return.

We can argue over whether Obama or Trump had the better plans. But it is indisputal that the Biden era council of presidents made things exponentially worse. 

[Legato]

58 minutes ago, Boges said:

They were co-operating with the agreement signed with Obama. 

Yeah but no but yeah but no but here's a lamp you can rub.

[Boges]

53 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

As I have stated, I have no love for Israel or the Zionists. But were some religious freaks chanted death to Canada and were secretly enriching uranium way past power generation levels, I'd be ready to bomb the daylights out of them.

I don't like that the USA covertly gave nukrs to Israel. Nor do I like that Israel started this ruckus. But what Iran was doing needed to be stopped.

This sounds a lot like the WMD debate in 2003. The only way you'll ensure Iran can't make a nuke is to start a real war, not a covert B2 strike. 

[User]

9 minutes ago, Boges said:

This sounds a lot like the WMD debate in 2003. The only way you'll ensure Iran can't make a nuke is to start a real war, not a covert B2 strike. 

Well, no, blowing it up seems to work pretty well so far too. 

 

[User]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

They were co-operating with the agreement signed with Obama. 

This is a scale. There was not 100% transparency, they co-operated within the framework of that agreement, that gave them enough wiggle room to not be fully transparent. 

The little deatail you and others like @robosmith (he outright lies about and is dishonest) is that the deal was only for 10-15 years. 

So what? Iran keeps their infrastructure, keeps enrichment, just not too much... and then in 10-15 years they flip the switch, rush to fully weapons grade uranium just like they were sprinting to now. 

That deal was trash. 

 

[Boges]

16 minutes ago, User said:

Well, no, blowing it up seems to work pretty well so far too. 

Has it? There's no independent verification. 

Because Trump can't keep his mouth and/or social media feed shut, I'm sure Iran made sure to move important items away from these sites that Israel had no ability to attack effectively. 

Apparently intel reports say that this only delayed their program. Trump obviously creates his own reality so he's fine with this being a huge success and moving on. But Iran can now keep making those Nukes in secret. 

[gatomontes99]

If we didn't obliterate it, then why did Iran immediately give up?

Edited 15 hours ago by gatomontes99

[Boges]

5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

If we didn't obliterate it, then why did Iran immediately give up?

Maybe that's what they want you to think. The truth is, we don't know. Any definitive stance without solid evidence is only conjecture.  

Apparently both Iran and Israel were running low on missiles and didn't have the resources to continue on like that. 

Israel was paying a cost for this war too.

[User]

9 minutes ago, Boges said:

Has it? There's no independent verification. 

Lets just pretend like we can't make educated reviews on the evidence we do have... 

10 minutes ago, Boges said:

Because Trump can't keep his mouth and/or social media feed shut, I'm sure Iran made sure to move important items away from these sites that Israel had no ability to attack effectively. 

This is stupid... because you thought Iran didn't have any clue what was going on when Israel started bombing them way before?

All you are interested in here is your TDS. 

11 minutes ago, Boges said:

Apparently intel reports say that this only delayed their program. Trump obviously creates his own reality so he's fine with this being a huge success and moving on. But Iran can now keep making those Nukes in secret. 

Everything is "delayed" for as long as they want to keep starting over again. 

And, we can keep bombing them. 

 

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Ya we now see how effective that agreement was.

Dumb-ass.

You're the lDIOT who would rather bomb Iran than comply with the negotiated settlement which WAS WORKING.

Now the U is in the wind and Iran will do what Israel and N Korea did: develop NUKES IN SECRET.

Thanks to Trump and lDIOTS like you who support him. 🤮

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, Nationalist said:

It's like robo is hoping for a nuclear war, just so he can pin that on Trump.

Dweebles has sunk to the lowest form of human. An enemy of the entire race.

If it takes nuclear war to make trump look bad, then that's how it goes in his mind. You don't make omelets without breaking a few eggs, every communist knows that  

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Legato said:

and which other countries does Israel supply weapons to help with their terrorist activities?

Edited to add.....

Israel is not a theocracy. It is officially a parliamentary democracy with a multi-party system. While it has a strong Jewish identity and religious elements influence some aspects of life, its governmental system is based on democratic principles and institutions. 

Seems like your 'O' pinions are still not meshing correctly.

Giving all kinds of special privileges to Jews makes them a THEOCRACY. Or hybrid if you pretend the 20% of Palestinians who live there have ANY rights.

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

From one assumption to another.

Try living on facts. For instance...

Iran's leaders and religious zealots openly chant death to Isreal. 

Israelis do not chant death to Iran.

Right. They just BOMB THE F out of Iran in an UNPROVOKED ATTACK, you stupid sh1t.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Legato said:

Since when has Iran been transparent about their nuclear development?

Since when do you have ANY EVIDENCE they are not? Don't be shy, POST IT HERE.

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Uh...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-64810145

 

How many bombs can they assemble with "particles"? LMAO

[Boges]

15 minutes ago, User said:

Lets just pretend like we can't make educated reviews on the evidence we do have... 

This is stupid... because you thought Iran didn't have any clue what was going on when Israel started bombing them way before?

All you are interested in here is your TDS. 

Everything is "delayed" for as long as they want to keep starting over again. 

This is not a partisan opinion. There's a debate going on about what damage was caused. 

https://www.coastreporter.net/politics/trump-grapples-for-upper-hand-in-debate-over-damage-caused-by-us-strikes-on-iran-10860583

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Drawing reliable conclusions about the impact of the U.S. strikes remains difficult, especially only days after they took place. That makes the issue a breeding ground for competing claims that could determine how American voters view Trump’s risky decision to join Israel’s attacks on Iran.

Jeffrey Lewis, a professor of nonproliferation at the Middlebury Institute, said Trump was trying to have it both ways.

“If it’s too early to know, why is Trump saying it’s obliterated?” he said. “Either it’s too early to know, or you know.”

 

 

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And, we can keep bombing them. 

Sure. Again back to the 2003 scenario where you're being pulled into a quagmire that only leads to war.