blackbird Posted Sunday at 10:34 PM Report Posted Sunday at 10:34 PM (edited) Since PM Carney seems to want to portray himself as different than Trudeau, it would be nice to see what he is going to do about some of the policies that happened under Trudeau. But I have not heard about what changes Carney will make. In this case I am thinking about foreign aid spending which was in the billions per year. From this article, it looks like much of it was questionable and it appears to have had very little affect. As PM Carney is a long established globalist and spent many years mixing with the WEF, Vatican, and U.N. globalists, I have a feeling that billions of dollars will continue to be doled out to the rest of the world every year, much of it without accountability. " The government of Canada’s annual donations in foreign aid to Third World countries is one of the most overlooked issues in Canadian society. Billions of dollars are being shipped out of the country each year under spurious circumstances. In 2020, the Liberal government increased international assistance spending by 3.5% to $6.6 billion, up from $6.4 billion in 2019. It must be mentioned that the outflow of these billions began well before Justin Trudeau came along. Historically speaking, the funding reaches back to Canada’s United Nations affiliation established decades ago. Still, no previous PM has played Robin Hood to 3rd World nations like our current prime minister. To add perspective, our foreign aid budget is more than the Liberals spend on departments of health, the environment and the Canada Food Inspection Agency combined. According to Canadian Taxpayers Federation, foreign aid also costs more than the cumulative budgets of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Canada Border Services Agency. The bulk of the aid budget goes to the Canadian International Development Agency (CIDA)– which has been folded into the Foreign Affairs and International Trade department. All the while, there has been a growing consensus that although foreign aid is well intentioned, it has had little to no impact on the countries it seeks to help. Why would this infrastructure remain in place if the billions are entirely ineffective? Is this not the odd-ball situation of the century? According to Special Inspector-General John Sopko, “billions of dollars in western foreign aid to Afghanistan, including from Canada, has been lost to widespread waste, lax oversight, and corruption. Nobody is really held accountable for wasting the money,” Incredibly, unlike the United States, Canada does not independently audit the money it puts into trust funds for international aid. Why have these circumstances remained static for decades? The answer is one which also applies to Canada’s Multicultural infrastructure– because it employs thousands of people. An entire industry of civil servants and bureaucrats are receiving steady paychecks based on the maintenance of this structure. The result is big government of the variety that the socialist-infused Liberal Party enjoy. To dissolve the status quo is to wreak havoc upon the lives of government and non-profit organization employees. Therefore, it remains. Another reason can be found in what CAP call “globalist optics.” This is the area from which PM Justin Trudeau has accumulated his greatest success as a political leader. Another question nags at the heart: why has Canadian media for decades hidden away the reality of the wasted billions? Just think of the positive impact these funds would have had upon the Canadian economy. READ MORE: $800 Million In Foreign Aid To Jordan Funneled Into Luxury Real Estate The Hidden World Of Wasted Billions In Canadian Foreign Aid Edited Sunday at 10:39 PM by blackbird 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted Sunday at 10:51 PM Report Posted Sunday at 10:51 PM He wants to portray himself as different. He doesn't want to actually BE different. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Michael Hardner Posted Sunday at 11:09 PM Report Posted Sunday at 11:09 PM Nobody here cheered Trudeau when he cut foreign spending as I recall... I guess the moral is 'read the room '? https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-oecd-report-urges-canada-to-increase-spending-on-foreign-aid/ Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
CdnFox Posted Monday at 12:08 AM Report Posted Monday at 12:08 AM 58 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Nobody here cheered Trudeau when he cut foreign spending as I recall... I guess the moral is 'read the room '? https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-oecd-report-urges-canada-to-increase-spending-on-foreign-aid/ Your own article says he didn't cut aid. He actually spent MORE money. They were just mad that he didn't increase it even more than he did. There were no cuts. Why do you feel the need to lie like that? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
herbie Posted Monday at 02:54 AM Report Posted Monday at 02:54 AM Hopefully he is not so beggarly and small that he thinks cutting foreign aid is an honourable thing. Might reduce it a bit to please the untermenschen that think they'll gain something doing that. Quote
CdnFox Posted Monday at 02:55 AM Report Posted Monday at 02:55 AM 1 minute ago, herbie said: Hopefully he is not so beggarly and small that he thinks cutting foreign aid is an honourable thing. Might reduce it a bit to please the untermenschen that think they'll gain something doing that. Who? Trudeau? He's gone man. Pay attention, it gets tedious having to explain everything to you Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Legato Posted Monday at 05:55 PM Report Posted Monday at 05:55 PM 14 hours ago, herbie said: Hopefully he is not so beggarly and small that he thinks cutting foreign aid is an honourable thing. Might reduce it a bit to please the untermenschen that think they'll gain something doing that. When a country is wallowing in debt like Canada. how is it we don't receive aid from other countries. Would that not be the honorable thing. Quote
TreeBeard Posted Monday at 05:55 PM Report Posted Monday at 05:55 PM 19 hours ago, blackbird said: foreign aid spending Do you think people in the 3rd world should be left to starve? Just now, Legato said: When a country is wallowing in debt like Canada. how is it we don't receive aid from other countries. Would that not be the honorable thing. We’re one of the richest nations on earth. For you not to see that makes me question your actual sanity. Quote
Legato Posted Monday at 06:02 PM Report Posted Monday at 06:02 PM 1 minute ago, TreeBeard said: Do you think people in the 3rd world should be left to starve? We’re one of the richest nations on earth. For you not to see that makes me question your actual sanity. Go visit a food bank. Quote
CdnFox Posted Monday at 06:03 PM Report Posted Monday at 06:03 PM 1 minute ago, Legato said: Go visit a food bank. About 25% of Canadians had to last fall, so you'll have plenty of company Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
TreeBeard Posted Monday at 06:03 PM Report Posted Monday at 06:03 PM 1 minute ago, Legato said: Go visit a food bank. So because there is poverty in Canada, that means we aren’t a wealthy nation? Quote
CdnFox Posted Monday at 06:04 PM Report Posted Monday at 06:04 PM 8 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Do you think people in the 3rd world should be left to starve? I think we can worry about them when Canadians aren't left to starve Quote We’re one of the richest nations on earth. For you not to see that makes me question your actual sanity. Not anymore we're not. The liberals dropped us from about number five or six depending on how you calculated it down to about number 30 and falling When we start climbing again we can talk Just now, TreeBeard said: So because there is poverty in Canada, that means we aren’t a wealthy nation? Exactly. Deal with that first. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Legato Posted Monday at 06:09 PM Report Posted Monday at 06:09 PM 3 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: So because there is poverty in Canada, that means we aren’t a wealthy nation? I volunteer at a foodbank and see at first hand the poverty. Try testing your own sanity if you think that's okay. Quote
herbie Posted Monday at 07:00 PM Report Posted Monday at 07:00 PM 1 hour ago, Legato said: When a country is wallowing in debt like Canada. how is it we don't receive aid from other countries. Would that not be the honorable thing. Reduced to eating strip loin instead of filet mignon and not putting premium gas in the lawnmower, leaving others to starve, die of rickets and live in tent camps would make you feel better? Pay the moneylender above all is what you call honour? 1 Quote
TreeBeard Posted Monday at 07:04 PM Report Posted Monday at 07:04 PM 53 minutes ago, Legato said: I volunteer at a foodbank and see at first hand the poverty. Try testing your own sanity if you think that's okay. Who said it’s ok? Do you think Canada is one of the wealthiest nations on earth? Who do you think is wealthier? Quote
CdnFox Posted Monday at 07:06 PM Report Posted Monday at 07:06 PM 5 minutes ago, herbie said: Reduced to eating strip loin instead of filet mignon and not putting premium gas in the lawnmower, leaving others to starve, die of rickets and live in tent camps would make you feel better? Pay the moneylender above all is what you call honour? You're free to send all the money you want. Just not free to send other people's money 3 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Who said it’s ok? Do you think Canada is one of the wealthiest nations on earth? Who do you think is wealthier? So send your money. Sounds like you're doing well 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Michael Hardner Posted Monday at 07:20 PM Report Posted Monday at 07:20 PM 14 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Who said it’s ok? Do you think Canada is one of the wealthiest nations on earth? Who do you think is wealthier? You said we're wealthy in response to the question "Why doesn't Canada get foreign aid?" The standard pivot is to come back with a different point and simply drag the conversation into a never-ending change of direction. It's not a progressive chat, ie. you're no longer going anywhere. You're just playing ping pong with someone who won't concede a point IMO. 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
CdnFox Posted Monday at 08:03 PM Report Posted Monday at 08:03 PM 39 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: You said we're wealthy in response to the question "Why doesn't Canada get foreign aid?" The standard pivot is to come back with a different point and simply drag the conversation into a never-ending change of direction. It's not a progressive chat, ie. you're no longer going anywhere. You're just playing ping pong with someone who won't concede a point IMO. Well you would know all about that wouldn't you The fact is we're not poor compared to many countries. We're not rich anymore either. We have fallen to the bottom of the G7 and are shrinking. And our cost of living have gone through the roof so from an affordability point of view we're not anywhere near the top. We have severe shortages here at home in housing, medical, and a host of other basic human rights issues that require money to solve. And that's where the money should go. You are welcome to send any amount of your personal money that you want to help the cause Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Legato Posted Monday at 08:36 PM Report Posted Monday at 08:36 PM 1 hour ago, herbie said: Reduced to eating strip loin instead of filet mignon and not putting premium gas in the lawnmower, leaving others to starve, die of rickets and live in tent camps would make you feel better? Pay the moneylender above all is what you call honour? Try a little sugar in your rhetoric it's a very sour. 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: You said we're wealthy in response to the question "Why doesn't Canada get foreign aid?" The standard pivot is to come back with a different point and simply drag the conversation into a never-ending change of direction. It's not a progressive chat, ie. you're no longer going anywhere. You're just playing ping pong with someone who won't concede a point IMO. Try moonshine it would suit you. 1 Quote
Legato Posted Monday at 08:48 PM Report Posted Monday at 08:48 PM 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: Who said it’s ok? Do you think Canada is one of the wealthiest nations on earth? Who do you think is wealthier? You casually overlook it. Canada was wealthy. Approx' 30 countries, look it up. Whilst your at it drop the faux outrage. Quote
Army Guy Posted Monday at 09:21 PM Report Posted Monday at 09:21 PM 18 hours ago, herbie said: Hopefully he is not so beggarly and small that he thinks cutting foreign aid is an honourable thing. Might reduce it a bit to please the untermenschen that think they'll gain something doing that. 8 BIL in foreign aid, 12.3 in foreign assistance would be enough to really make an impact on our health care system....or dental care or pharma care....lots of places that NEED extra funding in Canada....lets fix "US" before we pretended to fix them https://globalnews.ca/news/10519367/canada-foreign-aid-oecd-report/ https://www.international.gc.ca/transparency-transparence/international-assistance-report-stat-rapport-aide-internationale/2023-2024.aspx?lang=eng#a1_3 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted Monday at 09:25 PM Report Posted Monday at 09:25 PM 28 minutes ago, Legato said: You casually overlook it. Canada was wealthy. Approx' 30 countries, look it up. Whilst your at it drop the faux outrage. We can assume you’re correct, and are not the dishonest interlocutor that your responses indicate. We’re the 30th wealthiest country on the planet. Where do you think the line is for wealth before a country should get foreign aid? If the wealth were distributed better in Canada, do you think we are wealthy enough that we could get rid of food banks? In other words, is there enough money in Canada to feed our poorest citizens? 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted Monday at 09:25 PM Report Posted Monday at 09:25 PM 3 hours ago, TreeBeard said: So because there is poverty in Canada, that means we aren’t a wealthy nation? Aren't you a fishermen in NB. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted Monday at 09:27 PM Report Posted Monday at 09:27 PM 1 minute ago, Army Guy said: Aren't you a fishermen in NB. If I were a fisherman in NB, would that affect whether we’re a wealthy nation or not? Quote
CdnFox Posted Monday at 09:46 PM Report Posted Monday at 09:46 PM 20 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Where do you think the line is for wealth before a country should get foreign aid? At the needs of your own people. We have a huge number of people suffering, we have record levels of homelessness, and people are literally dying because we can't provide the medical services necessary That's where our money should go before work helping some foreigner who has never put a dollar into our system unlike many of the people that are suffering today How many of our people should be allowed to die or live in poverty or misery in order to fund foreign aid in your opinion Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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