Trump wants to bypass immigration courts. Experts warn it's a 'slippery slope.'

[Matthew]

8 hours ago, Deluge said:

That's easy, you run through the standard checklist:

1. Black hair? Check. 

2. Brown eyes and brown skin? Check. 

3. Broken english, little english, or no english at all? Check. 

Gross.

[Deluge]

14 hours ago, Matthew said:

Gross.

Only to a lawless a$$hole. 

[Nationalist]

On 4/30/2025 at 7:20 AM, Hodad said:

^^Exhibit A. 

Joe Biden didn't do anything to the system. His administration was a return to normalcy and a successful economic recovery. That's it. No one is buying "Sleepy Joe" as a radical reformer. That's asinine. 

You probably thought you had conservative values. Turns out you didn't love America as much as you hated the idea of "the other" thriving in America. "If I can't have it to myself, no one can. Burn it down."

What horseshit.

[Hodad]

On 5/5/2025 at 8:01 PM, gatomontes99 said:

Really?

Looks to me like it is exactly what it means.

 

What does that have to do with DEI? DEI is about using racial discrimination to create equity. It isn't about eliminating prejudice. It's about using alternative prejudices to create the perception of a fair outcome.

 

What you just posted is the most racist thing you could have said, and you think it is enlightened. 

You define people by skin color. You assume their traits, abilities and economic outcomes are based solely on the amount of melanin in their skin. That is absurd and racist.

If you want true diversity, look for diversity of experience, education, knowledge, ideology, etc. Defining people by skin color is an outdated, illogical and liberal mindset that I just won't tolerate.

They dismantle exhibits all the time and resurrect new ones. That's how they keep the museums fresh. Case in point: https://northernvirginiamag.com/things-to-do/2024/12/30/10-exhibits-coming-to-dcs-smithsonian-museums-in-2025/

 

🙄OFFS, it's not farking racist to be aware of the basic goddamn fact that that people ARE treated differently based on the color of their skin (and many other factors) that absolutely shape and differentiate their experience and perception of the world. That's why it's essential to collect diverse input: to see what it is that you're not seeing from your own position. 

Make friends with a person of color or a member of some other marginalized group and you might discover that your experience as a cis, hetero, white male is dramatically different than the experience of people outside that position of privilege. 

For example, you're cheering on Trump's rushed, careless--sometimes lawless--deportations. Whereas brown people are getting hassled outside of schools and churches. Do they feel differently about that? Yes. Do they experience those policies in a meaningfully different way? Yes. 

Pull your head out of your ass, check your privilege, and stop telling people that you "won't tolerate" acknowledgement of race as a factor in most aspects of American life. What you "won't tolerate' is the reality they live with every day. Jeebus, get some perspective.

[gatomontes99]

1 minute ago, Hodad said:

OFFS, it's not farking racist to be aware of the basic goddamn fact that that people ARE treated differently based on the color of their skin (and many other factors) that absolutely shape and differentiate their experience and perception of the world. That's why it's essential to collect diverse input: to see what it is that you're not seeing from your own position. 

Awe. Flowery logic to justify racism. Just because you paint a flower on a cow pattie doesnt mean it smells any better. Racism is still racism no matter how noble you try to paint it.

 

3 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Make friends with a person of color or a member of some other marginalized group and you might discover that your experience as a cis, hetero, white male is dramatically different than the experience of people outside that position of privilege. 

Wow! Can we count all the bigoted assumptions here? I count 7. How many do you see?

Twice, you assume I'm white. You assume I don't know anyone that isn't white. You assume I'm male. You assume I'm heterosexual. You assume I can't empathize with someone of another skin color. You also assume I have some privilege that others don't.

If you are trying to prove you aren't racist or bigoted, you are failing miserably. However, if you are trying to prove how bigoted you are, keep it up. Phenomenal job!

9 minutes ago, Hodad said:

For example, you're cheering on Trump's rushed, careless--sometimes lawless--deportations. Whereas brown people are getting hassled outside of schools and churches. Do they feel differently about that? Yes. Do they experience those policies in a meaningfully different way? Yes. 

Why do you assume they are brown? There was a story about a black Jamaican that was deported after serving time for kidnapping a kid that stole 3lbs of Marijuana from him. He's not brown. Nor does race play into it. I don't think race is a factor when they look at deportation orders or the law. Im pretty sure they are all proven to have violated the law. As for how they feel, I'm sure it ain't good. But you mistake me not caring how criminals feel about justice for lack of empathy. I can empathize and not care. And notice my only concern for deportation is whether or not they broke the law. I don't care what their skin color is.

You care though. And you assume that their skin color is why they broke they law. So, who exactly is racist here?

14 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Pull your head out of your ass, check your privilege,

Laughing my fùcking asş off! I had to spell it out. The abbreviation just didn't do it justice. Telling a conservative to check their privilege only gets you ridiculed, and for good reason. You sound like a moroʻn.

17 minutes ago, Hodad said:

and stop telling people that you "won't tolerate" acknowledgement of race as a factor in most aspects of American life. What you "won't tolerate' is the reality they live with every day. Jeebus, get some perspective.

If they are living it every day, it's because people like you force them. Check your racism. It is showing.

[User]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Make friends with a person of color or a member of some other marginalized group and you might discover that your experience as a cis, hetero, white male is dramatically different than the experience of people outside that position of privilege. 

This is not based on color, which is the entire problem with your racist obsession with color. 

Culture and class cross color. Just because you are black doesn't mean you have some experience a white person doesn't or vice versa. Which is exactly why your position is racist drivel. 

[Hodad]

14 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Awe. Flowery logic to justify racism. Just because you paint a flower on a cow pattie doesnt mean it smells any better. Racism is still racism no matter how noble you try to paint it.

 

Wow! Can we count all the bigoted assumptions here? I count 7. How many do you see?

Twice, you assume I'm white. You assume I don't know anyone that isn't white. You assume I'm male. You assume I'm heterosexual. You assume I can't empathize with someone of another skin color. You also assume I have some privilege that others don't.

If you are trying to prove you aren't racist or bigoted, you are failing miserably. However, if you are trying to prove how bigoted you are, keep it up. Phenomenal job!

Why do you assume they are brown? There was a story about a black Jamaican that was deported after serving time for kidnapping a kid that stole 3lbs of Marijuana from him. He's not brown. Nor does race play into it. I don't think race is a factor when they look at deportation orders or the law. Im pretty sure they are all proven to have violated the law. As for how they feel, I'm sure it ain't good. But you mistake me not caring how criminals feel about justice for lack of empathy. I can empathize and not care. And notice my only concern for deportation is whether or not they broke the law. I don't care what their skin color is.

You care though. And you assume that their skin color is why they broke they law. So, who exactly is racist here?

Laughing my fùcking asş off! I had to spell it out. The abbreviation just didn't do it justice. Telling a conservative to check their privilege only gets you ridiculed, and for good reason. You sound like a moroʻn.

If they are living it every day, it's because people like you force them. Check your racism. It is showing.

Assumptions? You are all those things, dumbass. And if you weren't, you wouldn't be this oblivious. Your lack of empathy is evident every time you post, with ^^this latest bit of nonsense being a real gem, even for you. You can't even manage to imagine what it's like to be targeted--to have your children targeted--by law enforcement because they look like what people think an illegal looks like. 

You know full well that ICE isn't shaking down white kids looking for illegals. You just don't farking care what this experience is like for others because it will never be an inconvenience--let alone an existential threat--to you and yours. The luxury of not worrying about such things is the essence of privilege. And you think it's funny to be aware of it? Jeebus. 

Not being aware of it on your own is a lack of empathy. Not being aware of it after it's been explicitly pointed out just being dense. Why don't you "get" what is patently obvious, even when explained? Because you don't simply don't want to.  

[gatomontes99]

42 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Assumptions? You are all those things, dumbass.

You know absolutely nothing about me. You made bigoted assumptions because it fits your fantasy world. If your assumptions are wrong, then your fantasy world falls apart.

43 minutes ago, Hodad said:

You can't even manage to imagine what it's like to be targeted--to have your children targeted--by law enforcement because they look like what people think an illegal looks like. 

Empathy does not equal leniency. And there you go again with the racist assumptions. You do know that there was a heavy mix of Asians, whites and blacks in those illegal alien hoards that crossed the border? No? So your racist asş thinks that only Latinos/Hispanics cross the border illegally. Why do you assume all illegal aliens are Latinos/Hispanics?

50 minutes ago, Hodad said:

You know full well that ICE isn't shaking down white kids looking for illegals. You just don't farking care what this experience is like for others because it will never be an inconvenience--let alone an existential threat--to you and yours. The luxury of not worrying about such things is the essence of privilege. And you think it's funny to be aware of it? Jeebus. 

I don't worry about those things because I didn't break the law. They worry about those things because they did break the law. Their skin color has nothing to do with it. It is a racist assumption that you make.

54 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Not being aware of it on your own is a lack of empathy. Not being aware of it after it's been explicitly pointed out just being dense. Why don't you "get" what is patently obvious, even when explained? Because you don't simply don't want to.  

Are you talking to yourself here?

The only person in this conversation that wants to make this about race is you. I don't care what race they are. If they came here illegally, they have to go. End of story. I don't assume, nor does ICE/DOJ/CBP, that people are here illegally because of their race.

You seem to. But that is your racism and your flaw. Not mine. Stop projecting.

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Assumptions? You are all those things, dumbass. And if you weren't, you wouldn't be this oblivious. Your lack of empathy is evident every time you post, with ^^this latest bit of nonsense being a real gem, even for you. You can't even manage to imagine what it's like to be targeted--to have your children targeted--by law enforcement because they look like what people think an illegal looks like. 

You know full well that ICE isn't shaking down white kids looking for illegals. You just don't farking care what this experience is like for others because it will never be an inconvenience--let alone an existential threat--to you and yours. The luxury of not worrying about such things is the essence of privilege. And you think it's funny to be aware of it? Jeebus. 

Not being aware of it on your own is a lack of empathy. Not being aware of it after it's been explicitly pointed out just being dense. Why don't you "get" what is patently obvious, even when explained? Because you don't simply don't want to.  

Sorry a$$hole, Trump didn't open the flood gates to 30 million illegal aliens - Biden did. YOU a$$holes created a mess, and WE have to clean it up. 

ICE and local law enforcement know who the illegal aliens are, and it's up to them to deport the illegal aliens because 99.9% of the illegal aliens sure as hell aren't going to self-deport. 

"Empathy" has nothing to do with it. The first objective is to deport illegal aliens. The second objective is to do everything possible to keep families together, but keep them together in Mexico, not here - THIS is the true empathy - keeping families together without breaking US immigration law. It's a win-win. 

Edited 9 hours ago by Deluge

[User]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Assumptions? You are all those things, dumbass. And if you weren't, you wouldn't be this oblivious. Your lack of empathy is evident every time you post, with ^^this latest bit of nonsense being a real gem, even for you. You can't even manage to imagine what it's like to be targeted--to have your children targeted--by law enforcement because they look like what people think an illegal looks like. 

You know full well that ICE isn't shaking down white kids looking for illegals. You just don't farking care what this experience is like for others because it will never be an inconvenience--let alone an existential threat--to you and yours. The luxury of not worrying about such things is the essence of privilege. And you think it's funny to be aware of it? Jeebus. 

Not being aware of it on your own is a lack of empathy. Not being aware of it after it's been explicitly pointed out just being dense. Why don't you "get" what is patently obvious, even when explained? Because you don't simply don't want to.  

Empathy?

From the party that ignores Laken Riley's family. The party that refused to even stand for them? The party and people that don't care and ignore the Americans murdered, raped, killed by drunk drivers... all here illegally, even those that are criminals who were caught committing crimes, some violent, and let go by sanctuary city policies you support then they go out and harm Americans again. 

You don't get to talk to us about empathy around the mess you helped create and support. 

If illegal immigration was not allowed to go rampant under the policies you support, encourage, and condone... this would not be a massive law enforcement problem to deal with now. 

[Deluge]

16 hours ago, Hodad said:

🙄OFFS, it's not farking racist to be aware of the basic goddamn fact that that people ARE treated differently based on the color of their skin (and many other factors) that absolutely shape and differentiate their experience and perception of the world. That's why it's essential to collect diverse input: to see what it is that you're not seeing from your own position. 

Make friends with a person of color or a member of some other marginalized group and you might discover that your experience as a cis, hetero, white male is dramatically different than the experience of people outside that position of privilege. 

For example, you're cheering on Trump's rushed, careless--sometimes lawless--deportations. Whereas brown people are getting hassled outside of schools and churches. Do they feel differently about that? Yes. Do they experience those policies in a meaningfully different way? Yes. 

Pull your head out of your ass, check your privilege, and stop telling people that you "won't tolerate" acknowledgement of race as a factor in most aspects of American life. What you "won't tolerate' is the reality they live with every day. Jeebus, get some perspective.

Whoredad parrots the drivel he's given from his woke overlords, but does he understand what he's parroting? 

1. Whoredad talks about "collecting" diverse input. Tell me something, wokejob, is DEI simply collecting diverse input or are they doing more than that? 

2. Whoredad talks about marginalized groups. Who is marginalized today, whoredad? 

3. Whoredad thinks rushing deportations of illegal aliens is a bad thing. If it's so bad, then why don't you talk about all the citizens that have been snatched up in Trump's deportations? 

Edited 9 hours ago by Deluge

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Assumptions? You are all those things, dumbass. And if you weren't, you wouldn't be this oblivious. Your lack of empathy is evident every time you post, with ^^this latest bit of nonsense being a real gem, even for you. You can't even manage to imagine what it's like to be targeted--to have your children targeted--by law enforcement because they look like what people think an illegal looks like. 

You know full well that ICE isn't shaking down white kids looking for illegals. You just don't farking care what this experience is like for others because it will never be an inconvenience--let alone an existential threat--to you and yours. The luxury of not worrying about such things is the essence of privilege. And you think it's funny to be aware of it? Jeebus. 

Not being aware of it on your own is a lack of empathy. Not being aware of it after it's been explicitly pointed out just being dense. Why don't you "get" what is patently obvious, even when explained? Because you don't simply don't want to.  

I see the Dillon Wagoner generator is up to speed.

[Hodad]

11 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

You know absolutely nothing about me. You made bigoted assumptions because it fits your fantasy world. If your assumptions are wrong, then your fantasy world falls apart.

My assumptions aren't assumptions, and they are not wrong, so what is your goddamn point? 

There's no mystery about you, so stop pretending. It makes you look even more ridiculous. 

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Empathy does not equal leniency. And there you go again with the racist assumptions. You do know that there was a heavy mix of Asians, whites and blacks in those illegal alien hoards that crossed the border? No? So your racist asş thinks that only Latinos/Hispanics cross the border illegally. Why do you assume all illegal aliens are Latinos/Hispanics?

Again, your sociopathic lack of empathy is on full display. The vast majority of people affected by this have not done anything more than you have. They just happen to have brown skin, so they are being targeted for "interviews." This has been going on for decades, but is turned up to 11 under Trump, now that he's sending ICE to schools and churches, which used to be off limits. Children are afraid. Their parents are afraid. And your response is that I'm racist for acknowledging that fact? Jeebus.

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I don't worry about those things because I didn't break the law. They worry about those things because they did break the law. Their skin color has nothing to do with it. It is a racist assumption that you make.

 

No, you don't worry about those things because you're white, and in Trumpistan you are favored and protected. ICE is absolutely scrutinizing and interviewing people who fit the visual profile of immigrants. People don't walk around with immigrant armbands (yet) so ICE does what they have always done, just more aggressively. 

Again, that you pretend that this VERY obvious fact is not a part of your fairy-tale post-racial world is just a glaring lack of empathy. Not only do you not give a shit about the suffering of others, you pretend like it's not even happening. It's disgusting.

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The only person in this conversation that wants to make this about race is you. I don't care what race they are. If they came here illegally, they have to go. End of story. I don't assume, nor does ICE/DOJ/CBP, that people are here illegally because of their race.

You seem to. But that is your racism and your flaw. Not mine. Stop projecting.

On this we agree. You are actively trying to pretend that race is not involved here. As if ICE has x-ray vision to see into people's immigration history. ICE visually profiles. ICE linguistically profiles. In the same way that police scrutinize and harass Black Americans based on visual profile rather than on invisible attributes.

[User]

1 minute ago, Hodad said:

Again, your sociopathic lack of empathy is on full display. The vast majority of people affected by this have not done anything more than you have. They just happen to have brown skin, so they are being targeted for "interviews." This has been going on for decades, but is turned up to 11 under Trump, now that he's sending ICE to schools and churches, which used to be off limits. Children are afraid. Their parents are afraid. And your response is that I'm racist for acknowledging that fact? Jeebus.

Like your cowardice is on full display here while you hide from me. 

The "vast majority" of people impacted by this are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. 

That is vastly more than anything we have done. We are American citizens. They are not. Those who are being targeted are being targeted for being ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. 

No one is "sending" ICE to schools or churches, those artificial constraints have been lifted so they can do their jobs IF they need to. 

I guess you want a suspected child abuser, rapists or murderer to go free as long as they happen to be at church or a school?

 

 

[WestCanMan]

On 4/29/2025 at 5:23 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

If you reject the law and due process it means you're a tyrant because then the POTUS can just do whatever they want with no check on his executive power.  There's a very good and specific reason why the US founding fathers created the SCOTUS, separation of powers, and checks and balances.  Because they knew first-hand the dangers of a tyrant (King George).

Due process takes some extra time.  Boo-hoo.

Try to be honest MG.

He didn't ask anyone to break laws, according to that article, they're changing laws, which is legal. 

FYI changing laws and enforcing laws is the definition of legal process. 

• Over the course of his first few months in office, the administration has removed some protections from deportation, cancelled grants that provided legal representation to children, fired dozens of the judges responsible for hearing cases, and moved individuals to far-flung locations — including to prisons out of U.S. jurisdiction.

  The onslaught of explicit policy changes and messaging show a rapid effort to make it easier to remove certain migrants from the country.

Where's the Tyranny in that? 

The "DOZEN" people who were "moved to far-flung locations - including prisons outside of US jurisdiction" are all Tren De Aragua. They're dedicated criminals who used violence to take over apartment buildings belonging to Americans, among other things. 

FYI a tyrant would have lined them up and shot them. If you don't know what the word means, don't use it. 

You're talking about the treatment given to a dozen or so MS-13 and Tren De Aragua members is if it's happening right across the board, and at the very least that's "disingenuous" MG (which still means "lying", just in a nicer way).  

Did you honestly not know that the treatment you're referring to was just for a small number of immigrants, or did you think that all immigrants were MS-13 and TdA?

[Deluge]

On 4/30/2025 at 5:04 AM, Hodad said:

We used to have a large population of conservatives in this country, a group that clung, perhaps too tightly, to tradition. A group who would have sounded every alarm and fought tooth and nail against such radical rapid change, particularly driven by an unchecked executive. 

It seems they've vanished. Replaced almost overnight by radicals. Turns out they never really believed in America after all. 

Whoredad likes to project his anti-American bullshit onto conservatives. 

[Aristides]

On 5/6/2025 at 8:45 AM, Deluge said:

Who is going to stop the lower courts when they neutralize executive powers? The answer is nobody. That's why the Executive Branch needs to investigate the lower judges for treason and other crimes.

Only a complete a$$hole would try to stop deportations of illegal aliens - especially violent illegal aliens - and now the President has to waste time chasing down corrupt judges. 

Lower court decisions can be appealed to higher courts. 

Only a complete Ahole would deny a persons right to due process to determine their legality. So what happens when someone comes into power who doesn't like you and uses the same powers to get rid of or suppress you? Who do you appeal too? 

[gatomontes99]

3 minutes ago, Hodad said:

My assumptions aren't assumptions, and they are not wrong, so what is your goddamn point? 

My point is you are a bigot. And what you've shown everyone here is that you are proud of your bigotry.

 

5 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Again, your sociopathic lack of empathy is on full display.

It is possible to have empathy and seek justice. Leniency is not a requirement of empathy. For those that broke the law to come here, I can empathize with their plight. But I can also demand they leave and enter the proper way. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. In fact, it is a tough, but necessary act of love. Have you not ever had a friend or loved one that was harming themselves and didn't want to hear it? And alcoholic maybe? Sometimes you have to tell them the truth even if it hurts them. Yes, I can and do empathize with people that came her illegally. But they have to go and do it the right way.

 

9 minutes ago, Hodad said:

now that he's sending ICE to schools

Hasn't happened: ICE has not yet arrested children in school under Trump, education leaders say.

16 minutes ago, Hodad said:

No, you don't worry about those things because you're white, and in Trumpistan you are favored and protected. ICE is absolutely scrutinizing and interviewing people who fit the visual profile of immigrants. People don't walk around with immigrant armbands (yet) so ICE does what they have always done, just more aggressively. 

Everything in this paragraph is fabricated.

 

16 minutes ago, Hodad said:

On this we agree. You are actively trying to pretend that race is not involved here. As if ICE has x-ray vision to see into people's immigration history. ICE visually profiles. ICE linguistically profiles. In the same way that police scrutinize and harass Black Americans based on visual profile rather than on invisible attributes.

Two completely false statements. 

First, ICE is only going after people whose names appear on deportation and/or detainer orders. They aren't walking into schools and churches and yelling "If your brown, get down." Aside from the ethnicity of a name, they only know the skin color from the mug shot. But the mug shot and name had nothing to do with who they are targeting. Its the orders.

Second...

There is no epidemic of fatal police shootings against unarmed Black Americans

I'm sorry that your fantasy world is being challenged. But you need to be challenged. You hold racist ideals and don't seem to understand just how racist you are. I'm done trying to help you for the moment. But you need to work on it.

[User]

13 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Lower court decisions can be appealed to higher courts. 

Only a complete Ahole would deny a persons right to due process to determine their legality. So what happens when someone comes into power who doesn't like you and uses the same powers to get rid of or suppress you? Who do you appeal too? 

Due process does not mean go to court. 

That is a part of due process in some cases, but we already have established law and precedent here around expedited removals. If a border patrol agent catches you in the act of illegally crossing the border or being here illegally within a certain distance of the border, they don't have to send you to jail where the ACLU can spend the next 2 years fighting for them to avoid deportation. 

No, they get put on a bus or plane and deported. That is the due process. 

 

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[Deluge]

12 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Lower court decisions can be appealed to higher courts. 

Only a complete Ahole would deny a persons right to due process to determine their legality. So what happens when someone comes into power who doesn't like you and uses the same powers to get rid of or suppress you? Who do you appeal too? 

We need more arrests in the lower courts, as it's obvious they've been compromised by illegal immigration activists. 

Only a treasonous a$$hole would say black hair, brown skin, brown eyes, shitty to no english, no legal documentation or paperwork and south American gangbanger tattoos is not enough and that he needs to see all 30 million of them in court before ICE can deport them. 

 

 

[Deluge]

The good news is that Trump is still deporting despite what the activist courts want. 

We need to clean out the entire lower part of the judicial system. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Deluge

[CDN1]

On 5/4/2025 at 7:49 PM, Aristides said:

 

What are you going to do if some day someone decides to come for you or one of yours? 

Lol, exactly why they need to be deported.

Edited 8 hours ago by CDN1

[Deluge]

It's obvious that democrats don't give a shit about "due process". They just want the illegals here, in the US, to drop anchor babies and infiltrate the system with their help.

 

[User]

13 minutes ago, Deluge said:

It's obvious that democrats don't give a shit about "due process". They just want the illegals here, in the US, to drop anchor babies and infiltrate the system with their help.

 

Yes. 

It is why the argue dishonestly and refuse to directly answer those points when they are made calling them out for that. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Lower court decisions can be appealed to higher courts. 

Only a complete Ahole would deny a persons right to due process to determine their legality. So what happens when someone comes into power who doesn't like you and uses the same powers to get rid of or suppress you? Who do you appeal too? 

Canadian gun owners would like to have a word with you.