Conservatives Have Taken the Lead in Federal Polls

[PIK]

4 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Interesting perspective on the CBC panel today - Poilievre’s big, boisterous rally crowds are turning off the centrist voters he needs. 

Now that reeks of desperation.  Lol

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Except you're the ones treating everything as a lie.

 

 

No, we're the ones treating everything you lie about is a lie

. And I know that offends you, and your utterly shocked and amazed that everybody seems to notice that you're lying and points it out. And then you want to blame everyone else and it's their fault you're lying

 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm sure those rallies turn off CBC panelists.  Beyond that, I don't know how they can assert that with any confidence.

I don't think panelists were turned off per se they simply pointed out rallies amount to little more than preaching to the choir. Rally goers are almost entirely made up of supporters.

58 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Well I never understood the strategy, but I'm not really the target either.

It's attracting that Poilievre seems to suck at.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

Two problems:

1) If you had any friends, or anyone in your life at all, you wouldn't be battlemoding 24/7 on an internet forum.  

Oh look, the little boy who's constantly crying about my post count being too high showed up to cry about my post account being too high   

As I've said a billion times, the fact that you take all day to enter a couple of posts because you type with two fingers does not mean everyone else does

 

 

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2) A healthy disdain for stupidity rules you out for any of these imaginary friends of yours anyway.  

Sorry kiddo I've never imagined you to be a friend so it doesn't rule out my real ones  

 

Your problem is it takes you forever to be stupid and it takes me hardly any time at all to be smart. You think it actually takes longer to be smart but it really doesn't if you are actually smart. Stupid however drags on forever as you have proven so often  

what's 100 percent minus 50 again?

 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

I don't think panelists were turned off per se they simply pointed out rallies amount to little more than preaching to the choir. Rally goers are almost entirely made up of supporters.

 

rallies have been extremely effective tools going back to the days of the romans. Again and again leaders who hold successful rallies tend to outperform. Trump, Obama, justin in his first go around.

Who didn't manage big rallies? Cheer, biden in his second try, clinton.

At the end of the day the CBC and anyone they bring on is going to try every single thing they can do to discourage a CPC voter. Let's be real.

But history is quite clear.

 

It has also been noted that trump frequently did considerably better in the election then he did in the polls and that one of the reasons for that is because of things like rallies and because of how he handled himself he tended to appeal to a type of person who was less likely to agree to do a poll. They were also less likely to vote, but rallies and similar things tend to motivate them and suddenly they would show up in surprising numbers without ever having appeared in any of the polls. And that's why trump has a reputation for surpassing his polling numbers.

I think we may see something very similar for Poilievre.

We'll see, historically after the first week or so there's not a lot of change in the polls until the debates. Within 4 to 5 days after the debates the numbers will fluctuate bounce around and start to settle down again and we will see who has the momentum. The person going into the last four days of the election with momentum tends to win. We'll see who that is

[eyeball]

Liar.

[CdnFox]

Just now, eyeball said:

Liar.

Yes you're a liar, we've long since established that.... why are you bringing it up now? Is this early onset tourettes or something?

[SpankyMcFarland]

37 minutes ago, PIK said:

Now that reeks of desperation.  Lol

They didn’t look desperate - they are paid to have opinions that will spike debate, after all - and the polls don’t either. 

[Legato]

Comment from another website.....

"This is not an election but a referendum on the IQ of the Canadian electorate.....

Our village <censored> is the only one with 10 Liberal lawn signs bunging up his driveway".

 

[TreeBeard]

5 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Interesting perspective on the CBC panel today - Poilievre’s big, boisterous rally crowds are turning off the centrist voters he needs. 

They’re also lying about them.  His 15,000 people claimed in the crowd was more like 1,700 or so. 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/liberal-conservative-crowd-size-investigation-1.7507222

😂

Edited April 11 by TreeBeard

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

It's not the crowd size or the rallies themselves. It's the bragging about crowd size that's very Trumpy. And what does it matter if you get 12000 people in Edmonton who were already going to vote Conservative? It signifies nothing of import.

1. The Libs won 1 seat in Edm in 2021. 
2. The CPC won 1 seat in Nfld in 2021
3. Contrast thousands of people in Edm with "250 Nfld'ers come to Carney's rally in Nfld and 20% of them weren't allowed in because they weren't LPOC toadies. Carney called the cops to keep them out."

When people don't get into a PP rally it's because the venue is filled to capacity, not because the cops were called to keep voters out.

Edited April 11 by WestCanMan

[SpankyMcFarland]

Carney is the PM, though. He matters right now. People are often going to demonstrate when he turns up. 

[eyeball]

40 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yes you're a liar,

You're in good company then.

[WestCanMan]

4 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Carney is the PM, though. He matters right now. People are often going to demonstrate when he turns up. 

Who had any reason to demonstrate against Carney when he first came into the PMO? 

The Libs picked a guy who wasn't already voting in the HoC for a reason - Trudeau's taint was all over all of the incumbent LPOC toadies in parliament. Literally.

Carney has the longest and strongest connection to the LPOC without their actual swastika on his forehead. 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

You're in good company then.

I suppose, if you consider liars good company  (???)

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I suppose, if you consider liars good company 

You must since you just keep coming back for more - liars complete you somehow.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You must since you just keep coming back for more - liars complete you somehow.

I was already here, it's you who keeps coming back    

And I have to admit you very frequently give me a confidence boost, Looking at your intelligence and honesty levels I feel like I'm akin to a god in comparison and that's a great way to start the day    

Edited April 12 by CdnFox

[SpankyMcFarland]

Poilievre is going to have to considerably exceed current expectations in Southern Ontario to have any chance of a majority win. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

What do BC posters think of Steve Fuhr’s chances? He has never smoked a joint, apparently. I thought it was compulsory there? 

https://www.pentictonherald.ca/news/article_d0837822-d909-44c9-974b-04e473c30be1.html

He’s none too keen on the F-35 by the looks of things.

 

Edited April 12 by SpankyMcFarland

[Dave L]

On 4/10/2025 at 1:09 PM, CdnFox said:

Sure, so the group who's going to be defunded if polievre wins says that polievre's bad.    Very believable  

The simple answer would be because they only have to ask Poilievre things once. They have to ask carney five times and while he may respond he doesn't actually answer the question. For example the other day he was asked about in china issue and he said he rejects the question. That's not answering it but your friends at the CBC will mark it as an answer. So the press tends to ask it again

Poilievre just gives answers to the questions and there's no need to ask again

So you are of the belief that everyone or the majority of those who work at CBC are Liberals and not Conservatives.  You and the Cons are picking on the wrong network.  The CBC is not paid or owned by anyone but the citizens of Canada.  If you want to know why the polls are as they are, look at the people the west has running our provincial Governments.  Smith and Moe.  People see what they re doing and really don't like it.  Regressive both of them.  In both Provinces they had to change the parties names to get elected.

15 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Please tell me it ain't so: 

Poilievre now invests in (VCE) Vanguard FTSE CDA IDX ETF, BTCC — Purpose Bitcoin ETF and VNRDF Vanguard FTSE CDA IDX ETF.

While Poilievre has repeatedly criticized Carney's involvement in Brookfield, one of the top assets in the (VCE) Vanguard FTSE Canada Index ETF is Brookfield Corporation.

Carney did the job they paid him to do and did a great job for them.  I have no doubt he will do the same for us as Canadians.

[Dave L]

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Immature enough to talk like a little child, clueless enough to support a compulsive liar who prefers to live abroad than in Canada and locks people out of rallies in their own neighbourhoods.

I can't say what your actual age is, but we both know that you're not smart. 

He might not be smart and he might be, but your comments are just like your ilk.  Mean nasty and rude.

[Dave L]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Not true at all.

Polls are hugely influential, and the MSM relies heavily on polls as basically the only backup for their false narratives. 

Eg, of course Canadians cared about Trudeau's scandals. They were huge and reeked of arrogance and disdain for Canadian taxpayer money & Canadian values. But CBC et al would just downplay the intent and extent of the scandals and then post fake polling data to say "Look here! Canadians don't care" and then move on. 

CBC is lavishly rewarded for their slavish dedication to the LPOC, and polls are one of the main weapons in their arsenal. 

That's just a false generality. 

Our country is in crisis right now, in case you didn't notice, and has been for 9 years, and PP has been dealing with it like a pro that whole time. 

FYI a politician's main job is to present themselves as an unflappable, honest, professional and knowledgeable, and he has done that consistently for his whole political career. 

By contrast Carney gets caught in a major lie every week, his conflicts of interest are off the charts, he didn't live in Canada for the past ten years, he's always fumbling for answers and misspeaking, he's heavily intertwined with Chinese gov't agents and bankers, he lacks the fortitude to get rid of bad actors in the LPOC ranks, and he only has brief instances of seeming like he's good at what he's doing. So there's that.

And he lies about what he acheived there.

And the Bank of England didn't do well at all with Carney there. It was an exercise in fiscal mismanagement... Did you not know that? 

Record inflation... the worst in the G7 lol. Massive increase in the number of people living below the poverty line:

Wrong. Maybe in a few "promises" that you look at, but you didn't even name any those phantom promises...

PP will cut the ridiculous immigration that costs us billions. We will stop giving away money to other countries like we hate it. We will stop bribing the CBC with billions of dollars...

There are more than 2 or 3 ways to save money when you run the country. 

 

Carney is NOT good at speaking in public. He lies constantly, and even the CBC can't cover for all of his lies. He has terrible judgment in who he allows to run as MPs. He has bungled all of his main jobs and just lied about his accomplishments. His conflicts of interest are of epic proportions. He has extremely close ties to the Chinese gov't. 

We've only been in a trade war with the US and China and he has has already moved a major company to the US and negotiated a $250M dollar loan from - basically - the Chinese gov't (they control the bank, in case you were wondering). 

No real Canadian trusts carney any further than they can throw China. 

 

Welcome to the forum... 😉

I really want to see the machine hooked up to your brain because it has not dealt with reality.  Pollieivre has done nothing since he took over as leader, absolutely nothing other than get rid of his glasses.  You are one vote and I am one vote.  The polls are not on your side my friend.  I don't need to check and see why.

 

[Dave L]

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The CBC's critiques of Poilievre just reek of desperation:

• One of the 37,000 people who donated to PP's election fund didn't like Khalistani terrorists!
• PP's rallies are too big! "People" don't like that!

This is just embarrassing now. leftist Canadians are determined to finish destroying this country.

Our real hope it to prevent Pollieivre from doing just that and so far we are on track.  Things can change quickly as PP has found out.

 

[Dave L]

9 hours ago, Legato said:

 

Doug Ford endorsed Carney your Carney side is another lie that the right is so good at doing.  There was Trump but he only said he endorsed Carney to attempt to fool voters, a fact that hasn't occured to you.

 

[Dave L]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Not true at all.

Polls are hugely influential, and the MSM relies heavily on polls as basically the only backup for their false narratives. 

Eg, of course Canadians cared about Trudeau's scandals. They were huge and reeked of arrogance and disdain for Canadian taxpayer money & Canadian values. But CBC et al would just downplay the intent and extent of the scandals and then post fake polling data to say "Look here! Canadians don't care" and then move on. 

CBC is lavishly rewarded for their slavish dedication to the LPOC, and polls are one of the main weapons in their arsenal. 

That's just a false generality. 

Our country is in crisis right now, in case you didn't notice, and has been for 9 years, and PP has been dealing with it like a pro that whole time. 

FYI a politician's main job is to present themselves as an unflappable, honest, professional and knowledgeable, and he has done that consistently for his whole political career. 

By contrast Carney gets caught in a major lie every week, his conflicts of interest are off the charts, he didn't live in Canada for the past ten years, he's always fumbling for answers and misspeaking, he's heavily intertwined with Chinese gov't agents and bankers, he lacks the fortitude to get rid of bad actors in the LPOC ranks, and he only has brief instances of seeming like he's good at what he's doing. So there's that.

And he lies about what he acheived there.

And the Bank of England didn't do well at all with Carney there. It was an exercise in fiscal mismanagement... Did you not know that? 

Record inflation... the worst in the G7 lol. Massive increase in the number of people living below the poverty line:

Wrong. Maybe in a few "promises" that you look at, but you didn't even name any those phantom promises...

PP will cut the ridiculous immigration that costs us billions. We will stop giving away money to other countries like we hate it. We will stop bribing the CBC with billions of dollars...

There are more than 2 or 3 ways to save money when you run the country. 

 

Carney is NOT good at speaking in public. He lies constantly, and even the CBC can't cover for all of his lies. He has terrible judgment in who he allows to run as MPs. He has bungled all of his main jobs and just lied about his accomplishments. His conflicts of interest are of epic proportions. He has extremely close ties to the Chinese gov't. 

We've only been in a trade war with the US and China and he has has already moved a major company to the US and negotiated a $250M dollar loan from - basically - the Chinese gov't (they control the bank, in case you were wondering). 

No real Canadian trusts carney any further than they can throw China. 

 

Welcome to the forum... 😉

I get it, you are angry the polls turned on the Cons.  That is democracy.  Denying everything does not make it so.  You are angry because Carney removed PPs biggest promise.  He was going to ax the carbon tax.  You have to be in power to do that and Carney is.