Popular Post BeaverFever Posted April 2 Popular Post Report Posted April 2 The Trump Tariffs, to be announced today after stock markets close will be the undeniable display of Trump’s sheer incompetence and dishonesty as well as the inability of any of the few sane adults in the room to point out that the Mad King has no clothes. By Trump’s own (totally made up) numbers, the tariffs will impose a $6 trillion sales tax on the American people, the largest tax increase in American history by far. The half-hearted and explanations Trump apologists have barely even attempted to offer range from forehead-slapping stupidity (“tariffs actually a tax cut”) to outright shameless (tariffs are paid by the export country, Canadian fentanyl, misrepresentation of various alleged trade grievances etc). Their attempts at explanation have been weak because they know they don’t have to explain themselves to their mindless unquestioning supporters and they couldn’t come up with anything remotely plausible if they tried. American prices will increase. American jobs will be lost. The Stock market will continue to tank. All because of the stunning stupidity of one man and the shameless sycophancy of his administration officials. Remember Trump said everything would get better on DAY ONE of his administration not that he was going to destroy the economy then build back better from the ruins. For the American Trump supporters out there, as you watch your country spiral into a completely self-inflicted economic crisis caused by ONE MAN ALONE, just remember: elections have consequences. 1 4 Quote
Hodad Posted April 2 Report Posted April 2 This will be a confusing time for the Republican base, who don't seem to know anything of politics aside from the price of eggs and gas. They don't know or care about the unprecedented attacks on civil liberties, private business, the environment, education, human rights etc., but they are all consumers. We are 3.5 months into this unmitigated disaster, but most of them aren't aware. They will notice this though. 4 Quote
Deluge Posted April 2 Report Posted April 2 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: The Trump Tariffs, to be announced today after stock markets close will be the undeniable display of Trump’s sheer incompetence and dishonesty as well as the inability of any of the few sane adults in the room to point out that the Mad King has no clothes. By Trump’s own (totally made up) numbers, the tariffs will impose a $6 trillion sales tax on the American people, the largest tax increase in American history by far. The half-hearted and explanations Trump apologists have barely even attempted to offer range from forehead-slapping stupidity (“tariffs actually a tax cut”) to outright shameless (tariffs are paid by the export country, Canadian fentanyl, misrepresentation of various alleged trade grievances etc). Their attempts at explanation have been weak because they know they don’t have to explain themselves to their mindless unquestioning supporters and they couldn’t come up with anything remotely plausible if they tried. American prices will increase. American jobs will be lost. The Stock market will continue to tank. All because of the stunning stupidity of one man and the shameless sycophancy of his administration officials. Remember Trump said everything would get better on DAY ONE of his administration not that he was going to destroy the economy then build back better from the ruins. For the American Trump supporters out there, as you watch your country spiral into a completely self-inflicted economic crisis caused by ONE MAN ALONE, just remember: elections have consequences. Thank you, comrade, for parroting left-wing media talking points. Now how about sit down and stfu? This woke prophesying is just as annoying as Harris' cackle. Speaking of Harris, imagine how things would look today under that America hating piece of shit: Quote
User Posted April 2 Report Posted April 2 41 minutes ago, Hodad said: This will be a confusing time for the Republican base, who don't seem to know anything of politics aside from the price of eggs and gas. They don't know or care about the unprecedented attacks on civil liberties, private business, the environment, education, human rights etc., but they are all consumers. We are 3.5 months into this unmitigated disaster, but most of them aren't aware. They will notice this though. That is undoubtedly your strawman caricature Quote
BeaverFever Posted April 2 Author Report Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Deluge said: Thank you, comrade, for parroting left-wing media talking points. Now how about sit down and stfu? This woke prophesying is just as annoying as Harris' cackle. Speaking of Harris, imagine how things would look today under that America hating piece of shit: Hilariously but predictably you are not able to utter a single intelligent sentence on the topic and like I mentioned in my original post you’re not capable of making even an attempt to defend this ridiculous disaster of a policy. So you do your normal thing: insult, troll, try to change the subject to something completely unrelated. 1 hour ago, User said: That is undoubtedly your strawman caricature You’re suggesting Republicans won’t notice this either? 🤣 Got nothing to say on this topic? 2 Quote
User Posted April 2 Report Posted April 2 51 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: You’re suggesting Republicans won’t notice this either? 🤣 Got nothing to say on this topic? Why waste my time responding here? You don't engage. I pick and choose my time here. Quote
Popular Post BeaverFever Posted April 2 Author Popular Post Report Posted April 2 (edited) 17 minutes ago, User said: Why waste my time responding here? You don't engage. I pick and choose my time here. Because you know his tariffs are indefensible and based on easily disproven lies and a shocking lack of even high school level knowledge and understanding of economics. Edited April 2 by BeaverFever 2 3 Quote
Deluge Posted April 2 Report Posted April 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Hilariously but predictably you are not able to utter a single intelligent sentence on the topic So you do your normal thing: insult, troll, try to change the subject to something completely unrelated. What's there to utter, pervert? Nothing's happened, yet you're still woke prophesying. How stupid does one have to be to jump the gun? lol Edited April 2 by Deluge Quote
BeaverFever Posted April 2 Author Report Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Deluge said: What's there to utter, pervert? Nothing's happened, yet you're still woke prophesying. How stupid does one have to be to jump the gun? lol Nothings happened? Your disgusting sack of shit of a president has tanked the markets, and so far has wiped out $5 trillion in value from American savings and investments over the past several week with this id1otic tariff scheme that he’s dreamed up in his own head and with his erratic antics that even acolytes in his own administration don’t support. He’s starting trade wars with countries around the world friend and foe alike based on easily disproven lies, half-truths, disinformation and his own nonsensical gibberish logic that evn a teenager would shake their head at LMAO You are so deep in your fake news bubble you are beyond hope. 1 2 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted April 2 Report Posted April 2 (edited) The economic disaster is doing nothing. The uneducated and uninformed think this will start and economic war. The rest of us know the first strike has already happened. China charges 67% tariffs to the US. Its new tariff will be 34%. The European Union charges 39% tariffs to the US. Its new tariff will be 20%. Vietnam charges 90% tariffs to the US. Its new tariff will be 46%. Taiwan charges 64% tariffs to the United States. Its new tariff will be 32%. Japan charges 46% tariffs to the US. Its new tariff will be 24%. India charges 52% tariffs to the US. Its new tariff will be 26%. South Korea charges 50% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 25%. Thailand charges 72% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 36%. Switzerland charges 61% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 31%. Indonesia charges 64% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 32%. Malaysia charges 47% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 24%. Cambodia charges 97% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 49%. South Africa charges 60% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 30%. Bangladesh charges 74% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 37%. Pakistan charges 58% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 29%. Sri Lanka charges 88% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 44%. Jordan charges 40% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 20%. Madagascar charges 93% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 47%. Myanmar (Burma) charges 88% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 44%. Tunisia charges 55% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 28%. Kazakhstan charges 54% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 27%. Serbia charges 74% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 37%. Laos charges 95% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 48%. Botswana charges 74% tariff to the US. Its new rate will be 37%. Papua New Guinea charges 50% tariffs to the US. It’s new rate will be 10%. Afghanistan charges 49% tariffs to the US. It’s new rate will be 10%. Syria charges 81% tariff to the US. It’s new rate will be 41%. Reunion charges 73% tariffs to the US. It’s new rate will be 37% Saint Pierre and Miquelon charge 99% tariffs to the US. Their new rate will be 50%. Nauru charges 59% Terrace to the US. It’s new rate will be 30%. https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/hold-white-house-announces-full-list-tariff-rates-here-are-top-20?utm_source=mux&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=social-media-autopost Edited April 2 by gatomontes99 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
CouchPotato Posted April 2 Report Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Saint Pierre and Miquelon charge 99% tariffs to the US. Their new rate will be 50%. I wonder why they just didn't charge 100% tariffs. Not that I am arguing in favor of their tariffs. It's just at that point why not go for it? Quote
gatomontes99 Posted April 2 Report Posted April 2 16 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: I wonder why they just didn't charge 100% tariffs. Not that I am arguing in favor of their tariffs. It's just at that point why not go for it? Right? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
BeaverFever Posted April 3 Author Report Posted April 3 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: The economic disaster is doing nothing. The uneducated and uninformed think this will start and economic war. The rest of us know the first strike has already happened. China charges 67% tariffs to the US. Its new tariff will be 34%. The European Union charges 39% tariffs to the US. Its new tariff will be 20%. Vietnam charges 90% tariffs to the US. Its new tariff will be 46%. Taiwan charges 64% tariffs to the United States. Its new tariff will be 32%. Japan charges 46% tariffs to the US. Its new tariff will be 24%. India charges 52% tariffs to the US. Its new tariff will be 26%. South Korea charges 50% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 25%. Thailand charges 72% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 36%. Switzerland charges 61% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 31%. Indonesia charges 64% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 32%. Malaysia charges 47% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 24%. Cambodia charges 97% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 49%. South Africa charges 60% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 30%. Bangladesh charges 74% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 37%. Pakistan charges 58% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 29%. Sri Lanka charges 88% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 44%. Jordan charges 40% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 20%. Madagascar charges 93% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 47%. Myanmar (Burma) charges 88% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 44%. Tunisia charges 55% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 28%. Kazakhstan charges 54% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 27%. Serbia charges 74% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 37%. Laos charges 95% tariffs to the US. Its new rate will be 48%. Botswana charges 74% tariff to the US. Its new rate will be 37%. Papua New Guinea charges 50% tariffs to the US. It’s new rate will be 10%. Afghanistan charges 49% tariffs to the US. It’s new rate will be 10%. Syria charges 81% tariff to the US. It’s new rate will be 41%. Reunion charges 73% tariffs to the US. It’s new rate will be 37% Saint Pierre and Miquelon charge 99% tariffs to the US. Their new rate will be 50%. Nauru charges 59% Terrace to the US. It’s new rate will be 30%. https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/hold-white-house-announces-full-list-tariff-rates-here-are-top-20?utm_source=mux&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=social-media-autopost LOL it’s been clear simce the day you showed uo youre NOT an educated person. As usual you don’t know what you’re talking about. 1) A basic fact that even a high schooler would understand is Tariffs are paid by the IMPORTING country Thats the point of tariffs, to make foreign goods more expensive Therefore Trumps tariffs will be paid by Americans who purchase those goods 2) The tariffs he claims other countries charge (that are actually paid for by their own citizens not Americans) are false numbers. The weighted tariffs charged by EU and Japan for example are around 1% not the ridiculous numbers he cited 3) Trump’s list of tarriffes countries includes tiny islands with no exports, an uninhabited volcanic island off Antartica that belongs to Australia and enemy countries that USA doesn’t do any trade with like Syria and Iran….clearly soe dumbass just googled a list of places and was too stupid or too lazzy to check it. But guess who conveniently is not listed at all? Russia and Belarus. The only countries in the world not listed Wow what a coincidence!! As I just mentioned Syria and Iran are listed “The most economically illiterate speech I have ever heard” says expert 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 47 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: 1) A basic fact that even a high schooler would understand is Tariffs are paid by the IMPORTING country Thats the point of tariffs, to make foreign goods more expensive Therefore Trumps tariffs will be paid by Americans who purchase those goods Oh please. Where has this new found resistance of taxes come from? Liberals used to fall in love with every tax they saw. But they also used to love electric cars, but that's old news too. I do find it hilarious that y'all are finally admitting taxes are paid by the end consumer. But, let's be clear, a tariff isn't about who pays the tax. A tariff is about who gains the cost advantage. The whole point of tariffs is to make it easier for producers to compete domestically or to force the opposing nation to agree to some political goal. Trump is using tariffs for both purposes. The political goal aspect has worked beautifully. We will see how the cost advantage aspect plays out. 56 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: 2) The tariffs he claims other countries charge (that are actually paid for by their own citizens not Americans) are false numbers. The weighted tariffs charged by EU and Japan for example are around 1% not the ridiculous numbers he cited The weighted tariff line is b.s. They have put such high tariffs on US that we don't export anything to them because we can't compete. That's why they have a trade surplus with us. My gawd, did you just hear weighted tariff and think that was some fancy way of saying average? It is the average, but only of the things we actually send to them. Trump is right that they have ridiculous tarrifs on our products. The excessively high tariffs prevented us from exporting our products to them. Weighted Average Tariff You just inadvertently proved that Trump's goal is going to happen. 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: 3) Trump’s list of tarriffes countries includes tiny islands with no exports, an uninhabited volcanic island off Antartica that belongs to Australia and enemy countries that USA doesn’t do any trade with like Syria and Iran….clearly soe dumbass just googled a list of places and was too stupid or too lazzy to check it. But guess who conveniently is not listed at all? Russia and Belarus. The only countries in the world not listed Wow what a coincidence!! As I just mentioned Syria and Iran are listed I mean, there is this: NEWSWEEK: Following Trump's Rose Garden announcement, a White House official told NOTUS' Jasmine Wright that Russia is "not on this list because sanctions from the Ukraine war have already rendered trade between the two countries as zero." Oh, and I'm glad you got some French TV station to decry Trump. Bravo. What's the matter? Did Rachel Madcow not have a piffy line? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
BeaverFever Posted April 3 Author Report Posted April 3 34 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Oh please. Where has this new found resistance of taxes come from? Liberals used to fall in love with every tax they saw. But they also used to love electric cars, but that's old news too. I do find it hilarious that y'all are finally admitting taxes are paid by the end consumer. But, let's be clear, a tariff isn't about who pays the tax. A tariff is about who gains the cost advantage. The whole point of tariffs is to make it easier for producers to compete domestically or to force the opposing nation to agree to some political goal. Trump is using tariffs for both purposes. The political goal aspect has worked beautifully. We will see how the cost advantage aspect plays out. Well at least you admit that Trump is massively taxing Americans - the largest single tax increase since ww2. We are not opposed to taxes or electric cars but we are opposed to rich dumbasses who don’t know what they’re doing and destroy the global economy and democracy. That’s Trump and Elon. Secondly his tariffs are across the board tariffs including on items where there isn’t any US producer possible for example natural resources that the US doesn’t have and everyday items like coffee and pepper that don’t grow in the USA. Prices will spiral out of context and Americans will have inflation and/or stagnation , the dreaded stagflation. The political goal has not worked beautifully. Where has it worked? Canada is resisting. EU is resisting. China is resisting Trump had to drop his false fentanyl BS tariffs completely. 1 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted April 3 Author Report Posted April 3 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: The weighted tariff line is b.s. They have put such high tariffs on US that we don't export anything to them because we can't compete. That's why they have a trade surplus with us. My gawd, did you just hear weighted tariff and think that was some fancy way of saying average? It is the average, but only of the things we actually send to them. Trump is right that they have ridiculous tarrifs on our products. The excessively high tariffs prevented us from exporting our products to them. Weighted Average Tariff You just inadvertently proved that Trump's goal is going to happen. That’s what matters And also Trump doesn’t tell you about the trade restrictions US has on countries. For example as much as he whines about Canada’s tariffs on US dairy he doesn’t tell you that US restricts Canadian dairy with an outright BAN AND it subsidizes the living shit out of its dairy industry AND Canada buys more US dairy than US buys Canadian dairy AND no tariffs are assessed on the dairy that is traded. Examples like that abound everywhere Also in other cases US has targeted tariffs for comparative advantage. For example US agrees to accept another country’s wheat tariff free and in exchange that country agrees to accept American tractors tariff free. They would do this for economic efficiency: US economy only produces as much wheat as is economically efficient and then imports the remainder required to meet demand. Why would US investors want to over-invest in wheat production if other sectors are more lucrative? They’ll only invest as much in the sector as their portfolio risk/return strategy deems appropriate. Meanwhile other countries have cheap labour to produce agricultural products but can’t efficiently mass produce tractors to meet their demand. But the two countries don’t want tractors and wheat going back and forth in both directions because that will undercut each country’s comparative advantage, they want tractors to only go one way, wheat to only go the other way. Hence USA provides tariff-free tractors while imposing a tariff on the other country’s tractors while the other country provides tariff-free wheat while imposing a tariff on US wheat and both countries are happy with this arrangement…..Until a dumbass like Trump comes along misrepresenting things and screaming “they won’t take our wheat!!, we’re tariffing their entire economy!!”” 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: I mean, there is this: NEWSWEEK: Following Trump's Rose Garden announcement, a White House official told NOTUS' Jasmine Wright that Russia is "not on this list because sanctions from the Ukraine war have already rendered trade between the two countries as zero." As I already said TWICE IN THE SAME POST BECAUSE I KNEW YOU WOULD IGNORE IT: USA has zero trade with Iran, Syria, and uninhabited Antarctic island but still managed to list tariffs on those place. It can’t be a coincidence that they forgot about Russia 1 Quote
Aristides Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 Dow down 900 S&P down 161 Nasdac down 660 In after hours trading Quote
CdnFox Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 13 hours ago, Hodad said: They don't know or care about the unprecedented attacks on civil liberties, private business, the environment, education, human rights etc., sure they do. Democrats did all of that stuff and they noticed it well 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Well at least you admit that Trump is massively taxing Americans - the largest single tax increase since ww2. We are not opposed to taxes or electric cars but we are opposed to rich dumbasses who don’t know what they’re doing and destroy the global economy and democracy. That’s Trump and Elon. Secondly his tariffs are across the board tariffs including on items where there isn’t any US producer possible for example natural resources that the US doesn’t have and everyday items like coffee and pepper that don’t grow in the USA. Prices will spiral out of context and Americans will have inflation and/or stagnation , the dreaded stagflation. The political goal has not worked beautifully. Where has it worked? Canada is resisting. EU is resisting. China is resisting Trump had to drop his false fentanyl BS tariffs completely. Yeah, it's a bad policy. I see where he was going with it but he's like somebody who's just learning to cook and thinks because a little bit of spice is great then a ton of spice must be perfect. In an effort to encourage American businesses to operate in America and foreign businesses to move there operations to America all he's done is scared business away from the market altogether. We'll see how long that lasts Quote
Nationalist Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 I want this thread to stay alive. I have a sneaking suspicion most, if not all of the listed countries will cave, and manufacturing will come rushing back to the USA...as it already is. BTW...I see the USMCA is still intact... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
BeaverFever Posted April 3 Author Report Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: I want this thread to stay alive. I have a sneaking suspicion most, if not all of the listed countries will cave, and manufacturing will come rushing back to the USA...as it already is. BTW...I see the USMCA is still intact... Lol keep dreaming. Relocation costs billions of dollars and takes more years than Trump will be in office. By the time companies complete the decision making process to move a factory Trump will be out of office. Plus his erratic actions have proven his word is meaningless he could sign a deal with you one day and welcome you with open arms then completely violate it the next and stab you in the back And USMCA is not intact. Trump still in violation on auto, steel, aluminum and he said there would be more violations to come in other sectors like pharma and lumber 2 Quote
Hodad Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Lol keep dreaming. Relocation costs billions of dollars and takes more years than Trump will be in office. By the time companies complete the decision making process to move a factory Trump will be out of office. Plus his erratic actions have proven his word is meaningless he could sign a deal with you one day and welcome you with open arms then completely violate it the next and stab you in the back And USMCA is not intact. Trump still in violation on auto, steel, aluminum and he said there would be more violations to come in other sectors like pharma and lumber Exactly. Trump's erratic nature means this isn't a change in direction, but a passing storm. Like a hurricane, it comes, it wreaks destruction, and then it goes. Businesses may do a few easy things, but are not going to significantly reorganize their strategies or make massive investments to align to his passing fancy. They will hunker down and wait out the chaos. Common people will get hurt. A few cronies will make some fast cash, and the economy will stagnate. It's Florida hurricane season come to the national economy. For Trump voters, this is a self inflicted wound. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 9 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Well at least you admit that Trump is massively taxing Americans - the largest single tax increase since ww2. We are not opposed to taxes or electric cars but we are opposed to rich dumbasses who don’t know what they’re doing and destroy the global economy and democracy. That’s Trump and Elon. No. You are just against Trump. That's it. No other reason. 9 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Secondly his tariffs are across the board tariffs including on items where there isn’t any US producer possible for example natural resources that the US doesn’t have and everyday items like coffee and pepper that don’t grow in the USA. Prices will spiral out of context and Americans will have inflation and/or stagnation , the dreaded stagflation. Not necessarily. You are excluding the price elasticity. Unless you know what Americans are willing and able to pay for products, you can't predict what the price will go to. 9 hours ago, BeaverFever said: The political goal has not worked beautifully. Where has it worked? Canada is resisting. EU is resisting. China is resisting Trump had to drop his false fentanyl BS tariffs completely. After forcing Colombia to back down, White House claims America is respected again Trump reverses new tariffs threat on Canada after Ontario rescinds electricity charges Canada and Mexico beefed up border enforcement to try to avoid the tariffs. 8 hours ago, BeaverFever said: That’s what matters And also Trump doesn’t tell you about the trade restrictions US has on countries. For example as much as he whines about Canada’s tariffs on US dairy he doesn’t tell you that US restricts Canadian dairy with an outright BAN AND it subsidizes the living shit out of its dairy industry AND Canada buys more US dairy than US buys Canadian dairy AND no tariffs are assessed on the dairy that is traded. Examples like that abound everywhere Well, which is it? Did the US ban dairy from Canada or buy it? Meanwhile, if the US exports enough dairy products, Canada will charge us 200% plus in tariffs. Hypocrite much? 8 hours ago, BeaverFever said: As I already said TWICE IN THE SAME POST BECAUSE I KNEW YOU WOULD IGNORE IT: USA has zero trade with Iran, Syria, and uninhabited Antarctic island but still managed to list tariffs on those place. It can’t be a coincidence that they forgot about Russia The island you refer to is an Australian territory, so it was included. I'm guessing it will never see a tariff charged. So why are your panties in a wad? Yes, Russia was left off. But we are negotiating an end to a war. Is it a good idea to poke that bear in the middle of negotiations? Of course not. There's plenty of time to institute tariffs AFTER the war comes to an end. For now, new tariffs would be counter productive. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Nationalist Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 (edited) 16 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Lol keep dreaming. Relocation costs billions of dollars and takes more years than Trump will be in office. By the time companies complete the decision making process to move a factory Trump will be out of office. Plus his erratic actions have proven his word is meaningless he could sign a deal with you one day and welcome you with open arms then completely violate it the next and stab you in the back And USMCA is not intact. Trump still in violation on auto, steel, aluminum and he said there would be more violations to come in other sectors like pharma and lumber Lol...your panic is amusing. "Goods from Mexico and Canada that comply with the USMCA will continue to be exempt. USMCA-compliant goods will also remain exempt from tariffs tied to fentanyl-related issues." https://www.forexlive.com/news/white-house-goods-from-mexico-and-canada-that-comply-with-the-usmca-continue-to-be-exempt-20250402/ Edited April 3 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 Bump. This may take a while, so get used to it. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 The example Hodad so ineptly gave us is that the EU placed high tariffs on American goods and that led to those goods not being exported to the EU, presumably leading to more jobs in the EU. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
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