Does PM Mark Carney and Trump have the same anti-free trade belief system?

[blackbird]

This article quoting Carney as being opposed to free trade came as a kind of shock.  Is this a fact and why is Carney saying this now?

"Terence Corcoran: Trump, Carney take the wrecking ball to free trade"

“It’s time to build more cars right here at home with an All-In-Canada auto manufacturing network.” — Mark Carney, X, March 26

Since the middle of the past century, international trade has opened the global economy to spectacular growth, rising living standards and innovation. The World Trade Organization reports that international trade volume grew 4,400 per cent between 1950 and 2023, providing countries like Canada and the United States with lower-cost clothes, metals, manufactured products, phones and thousands of other products as part of a dynamic competitive process."

What is going on with Carney?  Can anyone explain this?     Terence Corcoran: Trump, Carney take the wrecking ball to free trade

Edited Friday at 03:50 PM by blackbird

[SpankyMcFarland]

Terence Corcoran, the faithful friend of our cosy telecom cartel. I wouldn’t take anything he has to say on free trade or competition seriously. 

[blackbird]

10 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Terence Corcoran, the faithful friend of our cosy telecom cartel. I wouldn’t take anything he has to say on free trade or competition seriously. 

Yes, but what about Mark Carney's comments which seem to agree with Trump?

You didn't comment on that.  

It appears from Carney's comments that he also opposes free trade.

In complete contrast,  Poilievre says Trump needs to 'knock it off' after president unveils new tariffs

Come on Spanky, speak to the comments.  Carney and Poilievre are not speaking the same.

Carney is sounding like he agrees with Trump's protectionism.

Poilievre spoke against what Trump is doing.

Edited Friday at 04:11 PM by blackbird

[Moonbox]

6 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Yes, but what about Mark Carney's comments which seem to agree with Trump?

What comments are those, exactly?  

The fact that the US is proving itself (and not just to Canada) to be a fickle, unreliable partner is wrong somehow?  Trump has ripped up the trade deal that he pushed for in the first place.  Why would Canada want to continue relying on that sort of nonsense for its economic well-being?  

7 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Carney is sounding like he agrees with Trump's protectionism.

He sounds like he's reacting to Trump's retarded protectionism.  "Like, come on man, knock it off" is the contrast you want to see?  Come on...

[eyeball]

12 minutes ago, blackbird said:

This article quoting Carney as being opposed to free trade came as a kind of shock. Is this a fact and why is Carney saying this now?

No, it's not a fact. Carney is not saying what Corcoran is asserting. Corcoran like you are still locked into the old habit of blaming liberals, Liberals, the left, commies...whatever, for everything that's going sideways.

24 minutes ago, blackbird said:

What is going on with Carney?  

The same thing that's going on with everyone else these days, Trump.

31 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Can anyone explain this?

You and Terrance Corcoran like most Conservative supporters in Canada are losing your shit over the unthinkable, spending another 4-5 years, at least, in the political wilderness.

It's all on Trump though and the right wing brand in general. Of all the betrayed feelings Canadians are experiencing in light of Trump's behaviour towards us I think it's conservatives who are feeling them worse. It's sinking in on a deeper level. Trump was one of yours and bringing you all along with him and now look where you are, high, dry and stranded.

 

[PIK]

Well Trump says he and carney agree on a lot of things  he has given carney his full support.

[blackbird]

17 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, it's not a fact. Carney is not saying what Corcoran is asserting.

Sorry to say, you wrong again.  What Carney said is quoted directly from Carney's post on X.   You are in denial.

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Mark Carney

 

@MarkJCarney

If it’s built by Canadian workers on Canadian docks, it should be made with Canadian steel and aluminum.

 

 

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[blackbird]

26 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

What comments are those, exactly?  

Did you read the article?   I quoted Carney's comments.

Carney basically agrees with Trump in opposing free trade.   It not complicated.  Carney said it on X a couple days ago.

[CdnFox]

Carney's problem isn't the problem that trump has. Carney's problem is the same problem that Trudeau had.

Carney's problem is that he doesn't want the energy sector to grow or be used for the benefit of the economy. He's been clear about that. Besides, It would make all his pipelines in Brazil worth less if Canada started producing more oil  

That and he's big on taxes and even bigger on gov't spending.  He kept saying that the problem isn't that trudeau spent too much. 

Carney will run things exactly the way trudeua did.  He was trudeau's adviser for most of the last 6 years, that's what you can expect

 

 

[eyeball]

11 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Sorry to say, you wrong again.  What Carney said is quoted directly from Carney's post on X.   You are in denial.

Carney did not say 'I'm opposed to free trade'. You are hallucinating.

[Moonbox]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

Did you read the article?   I quoted Carney's comments.

Yes, I'll refer you to eyeball's response:

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Carney did not say 'I'm opposed to free trade'. You are hallucinating.

What you're saying is demonstrably not true.  

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

Carney basically agrees with Trump in opposing free trade.   It not complicated.  Carney said it on X a couple days ago.

Carney's opposed to the chaos that Trump's tariff circus causes, and the fact that he's made it clear we can't trust the USA to uphold the deals they make.  If he was opposed to free trade, why has he been talking about expanding it in Europe?  When you can answer that question, maybe we can take what you're saying seriously.  

[blackbird]

6 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Carney's opposed to the chaos that Trump's tariff circus causes, and the fact that he's made it clear we can't trust the USA to uphold the deals they make.  If he was opposed to free trade, why has he been talking about expanding it in Europe?  When you can answer that question, maybe we can take what you're saying seriously.  

I quoted to you what Carney said. 

“It’s time to build more cars right here at home with an All-In-Canada auto manufacturing network.” — Mark Carney, X, March 26

   In effect he is not supporting free trade, just like Trump.  If you refuse to accept it, you have a problem.  He posted it on X as well. I quoted that.  He had a conversation with Trump this morning and Trump is very happy with him.  Why?   The answer is obvious.   He agrees with Trump and is not fighting for free trade.

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Carney did not say 'I'm opposed to free trade'. You are hallucinating.

Carney spoke to Trump this morning and Trump is happy with him.   Why would that be?

The answer is obvious.  Carney is not fighting for free trade.   They both oppose free trade.

“It’s time to build more cars right here at home with an All-In-Canada auto manufacturing network.” — Mark Carney, X, March 26

[PIK]

My understanding its almost impossible. It would take yrs and mega billions to do it. We just need to settle down, and get thru the next couple yrs. Plus we need PP, who will open up our resources to the world ,fix the border and the military. All carney is doing is using Trump as a bogieman to scare the population. And keep the spot light off him.  Trump's day is coming and coming fast. 

Edited Friday at 07:33 PM by PIK

[Moonbox]

15 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I quoted to you what Carney said. 

“It’s time to build more cars right here at home with an All-In-Canada auto manufacturing network.” — Mark Carney, X, March 26

   In effect he is not supporting free trade, just like Trump.  If you refuse to accept it, you have a problem.

Yeah, you quoted it, and you those are some pretty funny mental gymnastics you're doing to take that, and turn it into what you say it means.  🙃

As I already mentioned, if he was against free trade, why would he be promoting expanding it with Europe?  That's a question you won't answer, because it doesn't fit in with your worldview.  

[herbie]

5 hours ago, blackbird said:

“It’s time to build more cars right here at home with an All-In-Canada auto manufacturing network.” — Mark Carney, X, March 26

What on Earth makes you think that is an anti Free Trade position?
Or are you just intent on twisting everything to the utmost to make an anti-Liberal statement?
Go join the National Post's front page FFS

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, Moonbox said:

As I already mentioned, if he was against free trade, why would he be promoting expanding it with Europe?  That's a question you won't answer, because it doesn't fit in with your worldview.  

No, I never mentioned expanding it with Europe.  Fact is, it is easy to talk about expanding it with Europe when we know that is next to impossible and if all the hurdles could be overcome, it would still take many years to get any significant expansion.

If Carney is serious about developing Canadian industry, why doesn't he announce he will take the restrictions, caps, and carbon taxes off the oil and gas industry?  He is silent on it because he doesn't plan to.  His war on climate change will continue and Canada will never in the forseeable future become an energy superpower.  Our resources will remain in the ground while other countries make a lot of money on their oil and gas resources.

Why is Trump so friendly with Carney when Trump has announced constantly he is opposed to free trade with Canada?

Edited Friday at 10:58 PM by blackbird