Nationalist Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Iceni warrior said: There's a difference between talking to each other and talking past each other. If you avoid addressing someone's points and just talk over them you aren't having a conversation you are preaching. More often than not, the "point" appears to be 'Orangemanbad' and 'FOX News' or any source that is not traditional msm. How the Hell can one debate that? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
WestCanMan Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 (edited) TBH, ignore can even be a way of engaging with people from the across the aisle if you go about it the right way. There are some people you disagree with who are worth listening to, and some who aren't. Filtering out the turds makes engaging across the aisle less bitter, increasing the chances of positive exchanges. I personally think of Beave as a cultist, due to his inability to consider inconvenient truths, but he also puts out 5x as many cites as eyeball, robo, myata and ex-flyer (some of them do 0), so it's at least worth seeing where leftists get their drivel from, and addressing the drivel right from the source. Edited March 12 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 6 minutes ago, Nationalist said: More often than not, the "point" appears to be 'Orangemanbad' and 'FOX News' or any source that is not traditional msm. How the Hell can one debate that? Only Trump could make leftards hate electric cars. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Nationalist Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Only Trump could make leftards hate electric cars. Lol...agreed. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 17 hours ago, robosmith said: That is why I have 4 on ignore now. No, you have me on ignore because you were spamming this forum with thread after thread of lies and nonsense and I consistently called you out every time. You got tired of having to see me tear apart what you were posting with facts, logic, and reason. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: I would say they likely feel similar to me. If the 2 sides can't talk freely to each other, how can society heal? How can this culture war, you hate so much, end? Would the death of Trump do it? You should understand he's only a figurehead for a large movement to restore sanity. I know that the death of Trump might not change anything. I don't know how society heals. Me wasting my time in unproductive discussion won't do it. You want to call what he's doing sanity, which is not what I would call it. Maybe at the end of this experiment (hope you don't mind the term) people will decide. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Legato said: Ignore is just an example of weak avoidance. Says you. Don't judge me for how I spend my time, and I will leave you be as well. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
robosmith Posted March 12 Author Report Posted March 12 (edited) 6 hours ago, WestCanMan said: You see the words, but they don't register in your brain correctly. In your opinion, people experience cognitive dissonance because they refuse to allow their closely held beliefs to be challenged, BUT IT'S THE EXACT OPPOSITE. People experience cognitive dissonance precisely because they are allowing conflicting beliefs to fight for dominance. People who look at things objectively -> experience cognitive dissonance. Period. By contrast, people who give in to their own confirmation bias don't feel cognitive dissonance because they steadfastly refuse to allow unwanted information to take root. Here's an example of confirmation bias at work: A braindead cultist watches CNN, and sees Fauci come on the TV saying that covid originated in a wetmarket when a bat infected with the coronavirus managed to pass it along to a pangolin, or some other intermediary species, and then that mutated virus managed to infect a human. That explanation seems plausible, and it came from a source that the braindead cultist follows religiously, so that information is put on a golden altar inside the braindead cultist's cranial sewer, inside the shape of a pentagram, basking in the warmth of holy candles, with the strong odour of incense blocking out infection. Then a conflicting message comes along, saying that the virus might have come from a BSL4 lab just a few blocks away, but CNN and the scant few other sources that the braindead cultist follows all say "REJECT THAT INFORMATION: IT IS HERESY!" so the braindead cultist instantly goes into denial mode and shouts down the nasty heretics who keep floating that new possibility. "FOS NEWS WIES!😭", he shouts defiantly. "FOS NEWS WIES!😭" Then, upon hearing that people who say "BSL4 lab in Wuhan" are getting kicked off of social media, the braindead cultist doesn't say "that's not a good look in a society that holds freedom of speech in high regard", he celebrates the suppression of unwanted ideas, and allows it to warm the cockles of his heart. The bad idea has now gone away, and the braindead cultist is flush with pride. So what happens when Fauci ends up testifying in congress, in a heated exchange with Rand Paul, and ends up admitting that he funded research in that BSL4 lab to make the bat coronavirus transmissible among humans? 😱 DANG, BRUH! If that information gets inside the Iron Dome of Dumb it's gonna do some damage. It's gonna go straight to that altar and say "Step aside pangolin breath, there's room for two of us here. Let's work this out." In other words, it's gonna cause some "cognitive dissonance". What's worse, it's gotta make a person wonder if Fauci was just covering his own ass when he chanted "bat>pangolin>human is the way and the light", because it would look really bad for Fauci if the bat coronavirus that's now transmissible among humans (and killing them) is the bat coronavirus that was made transmissible among humans by the research that Fauci funded himself. Right? No pangolin required, just one mad scientist... Enter "confirmation bias DEFCON 1", baby. "PEW! PEW! PEWWWW!!!". Nasty, bad ideas are shot from the skies like dodo birds going up against a massive battery of anti-aircraft guns. 1) Don't watch the video. 2) Call Rand Paul a liar. 3) Pass off the information about the existence of an unwanted strain of the virus as more heresy, and 4) don't even listen to Fauci's denials, because that's akin to accepting this new, heretical thought. Just stick to the original script at all times. So at the end of the day, braindead cultist doesn't experience any cognitive dissonance, because his confirmation bias went scorched-earth on all of the inconvenient truths. To this day, braindead cultist has never given any weight to the possibility that Fauci's own virus killed all those people, and with that unwanted thought frozen out of his brain, he never has to question Fauci's motives, or the veracity of any other information that Fauci passed along. Other Faucian narratives still reign supreme in the braindead cultist's head: "only a covid vaccine can save us from societal collapse" - so sayeth Fauci "young adults and kids need it" - so sayeth Fauci "alternatives make covid worse, so taking medications that have been used safely for 60 years is suddenly not safe, but we know in advance that the mRNA jabs will be safe" - so sayeth Fauci "See? The covid jabs are safe. Ignore the conspiracy theorists" - so sayeth Fauci "you don't have to worry about covid if you have the jab" - so sayeth Fauci "you won't give granny covid if you have the jab" - so sayeth Fauci "we need to force people to take the jab, because jabbed people can't spread covid, that's science" - so sayeth Fauci Fauci's narratives are still uncontested in the cranial sewers of millions of braindead cultists. 100%. It took months and months of thousands upon thousands of vaxed people dying for people like eyeball and ex-flyer to admit that even one multi-vaxed person died of covid. "Yeah but they were elderly with comorbidities!!!" 😂 Class dismissed. Dunning and Kruger would be so proud of you demonstrating the essence of their crowning achievement by using YOUR COGNITIVE DISSONANCE to FAIL to ABSORB the wisdom of an MD EXPERT with 50 years of PUBLIC HEALTH experience while YOU PRETEND to be an expert that knows better than HE. YOU DO NOT. You're not fooling anyone but YOURSELF. Edited March 12 by robosmith 1 Quote
Legato Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Says you. Don't judge me for how I spend my time, and I will leave you be as well. Why not? Ignore is a form of judgement. Horse and carriage, you can't have one without the other. Quote
Legato Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: Dunning and Kruger would be so proud of you demonstrating the essence of their crowning achievement by using YOUR COGNITIVE DISSONANCE to FAIL to ABSORB the wisdom of a PhD EXPERT with 50 years of PUBLIC HEALTH experience while YOU PRETEND to be an expert that knows better than HE. YOU DO NOT. You're not fooling anyone but YOURSELF. and the above is a prime example of what the accuser accuses other people of. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted March 12 Author Report Posted March 12 2 hours ago, Hodad said: Nah, in the TV analogy it's more like when Tivo rolled out ad skipping. So you can see content you want without the pointless time wasters you don't. Why clutter your screen with things--or people--that don't have value? Helen Mirren is wise. Absolutely. But it's more like content with VALUE instead of LIES, INSULTS and BULLSHIT from posters who have NO EVIDENCE for their OPINIONS. So many just use this site as their OPINION blog instead of making reasoned arguments with EVIDENCE. 2 hours ago, Legato said: Cmon Mike you had me on and off "ignore" so many times I felt like a pair of whores drawers. Ignore is just an example of weak avoidance. It's an example of learning TROLLS add NO VALUE. Most all the time you're just a JOKER who's NOT FUNNY. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted March 12 Author Report Posted March 12 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Mirren was a vaxtard herself, so she's actually one of the people she was talking about. A broken clock is right twice a day. End of story. ^STILL doesn't even understand how vaccines work but stupidly believes he knows better than PROFESSIONAL MDs in PUBLIC HEALTH. LMAO Quote
Legato Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, robosmith said: It's an example of learning TROLLS add NO VALUE. Most all the time you're just a JOKER who's NOT FUNNY. What have you learned that has any intrinsic value? Quote
robosmith Posted March 12 Author Report Posted March 12 2 hours ago, Legato said: Don't you usually take advice from the actors on CNN or MSNBC, why now consulting Hollywood? Because unlike YOU she makes a REASONED SENSIBLE ARGUMENT instead of TROLLING. 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: More often than not, the "point" appears to be 'Orangemanbad' and 'FOX News' or any source that is not traditional msm. How the Hell can one debate that? YOU CANNOT DEBATE the FACT that FOS LIES has DESTROYED their CREDIBILITY by PROVING THEY ARE LIARS. Quote
robosmith Posted March 12 Author Report Posted March 12 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Only Trump could make leftards hate electric cars. Only Trump could go from hating electric cars to loving them solely because Muskrat bought him an election. 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Lol...agreed. ^IGNORAMUS, AGAIN Quote
robosmith Posted March 12 Author Report Posted March 12 19 minutes ago, Legato said: Why not? Ignore is a form of judgement. Horse and carriage, you can't have one without the other. It's a form of LEARNING who has NOTHING of VALUE to CONTRIBUTE. Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Only Trump could go from hating electric cars to loving them solely because Muskrat bought him an election. Fact: electric cars don't go far. Fact: electric cars are really expensive for cars that don't go far. It takes me two minutes to gas up my car and I get over 1,000 km on a single tank on the hwy. I have to charge the truck 3 times to go 1,000 km, and charging takes more than half an hour on a really good charger. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
robosmith Posted March 12 Author Report Posted March 12 18 minutes ago, Legato said: and the above is a prime example of what the accuser accuses other people of. and the ^above is a prime example of TROLL with nothing of REASONED value to contribute. Quote
User Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 20 minutes ago, robosmith said: Absolutely. But it's more like content with VALUE instead of LIES, INSULTS and BULLSHIT from posters who have NO EVIDENCE for their OPINIONS. So many just use this site as their OPINION blog instead of making reasoned arguments with EVIDENCE. Sure. There is so much outright hypocritical irony here it is impossible to begin to comprehend how you can even type this. Quote
robosmith Posted March 12 Author Report Posted March 12 (edited) 11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Fact: electric cars don't go far. Fact: electric cars are really expensive for cars that don't go far. It takes me two minutes to gas up my car and I get over 1,000 km on a single tank on the hwy. I have to charge the truck 3 times to go 1,000 km, and charging takes more than half an hour on a really good charger. FACT: your car that goes 1000 km on a single tank cannot do 0-60 in under 4 seconds like a Tesla because that kind of power is woefully inefficient in an ICE vehicle. And 410 mi range is pretty far and comparable to most ICE autos. Tesla https://www.tesla.com › models Model S Range (EPA est.) 410 mi ; Acceleration. 3.1 s 0-60 mph ; Top Speed. 130 mph ; Powertrain. Dual Motor ; Peak Power. 670 hp ... Edited March 12 by robosmith Quote
gatomontes99 Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: FACT: your car that goes 1000 km on a single tank cannot do 0-60 in under 4 seconds like a Tesla because that kind of power is woefully inefficient in an ICE vehicle. And 410 mi range is pretty far and comparable to most ICE autos. Tesla https://www.tesla.com › models Model S Range (EPA est.) 410 mi ; Acceleration. 3.1 s 0-60 mph ; Top Speed. 130 mph ; Powertrain. Dual Motor ; Peak Power. 670 hp ... Lmao. Ok. Now tow something. BTW, accelerating to 60 in 3 seconds is illegal im many areas. So what good does that do you? https://www.drivinglaws.org/resources/is-all-street-racing-illegal-what-is-an-exhibition-of-speed-violation.html Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
eyeball Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 6 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Class dismissed. I can't wait for your class on nanothermite and 9/11. LMAO! 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCanMan Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 56 minutes ago, robosmith said: Dunning and Kruger would be so proud of you demonstrating the essence of their crowning achievement by using YOUR COGNITIVE DISSONANCE to FAIL to ABSORB the wisdom of an MD EXPERT with 50 years of PUBLIC HEALTH experience while YOU PRETEND to be an expert that knows better than HE. YOU DO NOT. I already warned you about trying to use big words, dummy No one needs a medical degree to understand that Fauci lied when he said that the virus came from the wetmarket without mentioning the other, more likely possibility The reason you're in denial in 2, above, is because you're the exact cultist dipshit that I said you were. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
robosmith Posted March 12 Author Report Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I already warned you about trying to use big words, dummy No one needs a medical degree to understand that Fauci lied when he said that the virus came from the wetmarket without mentioning the other, more likely possibility The reason you're in denial in 2, above, is because you're the exact cultist dipshit that I said you were. ^Proving Dunning-Kruger right AGAIN. LMAO Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 (edited) 31 minutes ago, robosmith said: ^Proving Dunning-Kruger right AGAIN. LMAO See? This is why you're on ignore. The FBI even came to the conclusion that the BSL4 lab is most likely the source of the leak, but even considering that as a possibility is impossible for you. The "St Fauci and the Bad, Bad Pangolin" narrative is indelibly seared into your memory and nothing can challenge that: it's your hill to die on because you saw it on CNN. You are the ultimate cultist sap. Edited March 12 by WestCanMan 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
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