Rethink: What does Trump want?

SpankyMcFarland · April 6

27 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Basing your politics on hatred and bigotry and anger is never the action of a reasonable person.

Bigotry? I have great difficulty understanding how that word applies here. I have no hostility to Trump based on his wealth, nationality, race or religion or membership of any other group but merely to his actions over a lifetime and particularly as a feckless head of government clearly hostile to our country. My anger is perfectly reasonable under the circumstances.

Edited April 6 by SpankyMcFarland

CrakHoBarbie · April 6

48 minutes ago, Legato said:

Not on your life. It's best to avoid large sucking sounds.

So you educate people by sucking them?

Fascinating

Legato · April 6

4 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

So you educate people by sucking them?

Fascinating

What part of "not" do you not understand?

CdnFox · April 6

11 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Bigotry? I have great difficulty understanding how that word applies here. I have no hostility to Trump based on his wealth, nationality, race or religion or membership of any other group

Based on hour comments on this board it's pretty obvious you have a negative view of conservatives in general and republicans specificaly that's based on your feelings and perceptions rather than fact or reasoned argument But i'm glad we're on the same page fort he rest of them.

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but merely to his actions over a lifetime and particularly as a feckless head of government clearly hostile to our country. My anger is perfectly reasonable under the circumstances.

No, your anger is entirely irrational. If you had said that your anger was based on his mistreatment of Canada right now I could kind of understood that, but according to you you're angry over his entire lifetime of activities. The vast majority of which have nothing to do with you in any way.

And that's where you kind of give yourself away.

But the real giveaway is the fact that for two posts now you've completely ignored the rational and reasoned arguments presented to you And focused on stupid stuff like this exclusively.

That proves conclusively that you're not really actually worried about the issues. You are invested in your hatred and bigotry and intolerance and you're only thought is to defend those things.

1 minute ago, Legato said:

What part of "not" do you not understand?

One sentence and she's effing up already. Good luck with that 'education'

CrakHoBarbie · April 6

2 hours ago, Legato said:

What part of "not" do you not understand?

I'm wondering which night school class it was, where you learned your "sucking" technique?

Advanced suckology?

Sucking 101?

Critical Sucking?

And, what were the prerequisites?

Lickology for beginners?

I'm sure your very advanced now.

Edited April 6 by CrakHoBarbie

eyeball · April 6

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

He has created the firm and unshakeable impression that there is no stability.

And just a few short months ago his stable genius was trumpeted far and wide heralding a two - three term right wing conservative domination of the political landscape in North America and a similar backlash around the so-called free world.

Now you'll be lucky if you only see the fruition of a US recession induced midterm disaster and a Liberal minority or worse.

Legato · April 7

2 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I'm wondering which night school class it was, where you learned your "sucking" technique?

Advanced suckology?

Sucking 101?

Critical Sucking?

And, what were the prerequisites?

Lickology for beginners?

I'm sure your very advanced now.

The school said you were their star pupil.

CdnFox · April 7

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

And just a few short months ago his stable genius was trumpeted far and wide heralding a two - three term right wing conservative domination of the political landscape in North America and a similar backlash around the so-called free world.

Well, not exactly. The idea of two more terms possibly three was based on the fact that the democrats were so bad, not the trump was so good. After losing the election they blamed everybody under the sun except themselves and continued to talk about how great Kamala Harris was. If they keep up with that crap then chances are they will lose the next election regardless. They won't be up against trump, and we're seeing in Canada what can happen when the object of your anger is suddenly gone.

So that's a still a very real possibility if the democrats continue as they have them. Woke candidates won't win

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Now you'll be lucky if you only see the fruition of a US recession induced midterm disaster and a Liberal minority or worse.

??? What are you talking about? The United states can't have a 'minority'. They might lose control of the house or the senate but unless he's impeached he's the president till the end of his term.

For god's sake, read a book

eyeball · April 7

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

What are you talking about?

A Liberal minority...if you're lucky.

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

For god's sake, read a book

Try to keep up FFS.

CrakHoBarbie · April 7

14 hours ago, Legato said:

The school said you were their star pupil.

Here's my portrait they proudly displayed in the Library named after me.

Legato · April 7

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Here's my portrait they proudly displayed in the Library named after me.

Neat stitching on your hairpiece.. Must have been done by the local cobbler.

CdnFox · April 7

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

A Liberal minority...if you're lucky.

Oh, did you sober up? Anyway, we can go with that if you like but it's very clearly not what you said.

A liberal minority is something we could work with. Carney will fall apart in short order and within a year to 18 months we'll be back at the polls and this time the liberals won't have a white night to swap out. Canada will have received additional damages for a year and a half but such as life

But I'm still willing to put my neck on the line and say that we are looking at a conservative majority. Reading the tea leaves means being able to read more than polls, just as I said in the US election when everybody was going on about how harris was kicking trump's ass

And we haven't even done the debates yet

CrakHoBarbie · April 7

3 hours ago, Legato said:

Neat stitching on your hairpiece.. Must have been done by the local cobbler.

Cobblers make shoes, not dolls you dolt.

Legato · April 7

1 minute ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Cobblers make shoes, not dolls you dolt.

Exactly.

CdnFox · April 7

4 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Here's my portrait they proudly displayed in the Library named after me.

Fake, plastic, pretentious and obnoxious.
They really captured you didn't they

impartialobserver · April 7

Not entirely sure what he really wants. However, going to be interesting to see how it plays out. The trade war is not going so well.

CrakHoBarbie · April 7

3 hours ago, Legato said:

Exactly.

Agreed.

You are a dolt.

Legato · April 8

2 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Agreed.

You are a dolt.

What are you wearing?

CrakHoBarbie · April 8

12 hours ago, Legato said:

What are you wearing?

I'm wearing the perfect outfit in which to bit_h slap you again.

CdnFox · April 8

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I'm wearing the perfect outfit in which to bit_h slap you again.

Ahh, so your pyjamas. Because you must be dreaming

August1991 · April 9

On 4/6/2025 at 11:05 AM, SpankyMcFarland said:

The way this policy was implemented couldn’t have been more primitive. Even the basic PR was disastrous. The countries tariffed weren’t listed in any easy order but were hurriedly lumped together.

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And yet, make no mistake, Trump is correct.

1. When I fly from Toronto to Montreal, it's expensive. I can't fly United.

2. I cannot buy milk from the US even if is identified as GMO.

3. All cheese is expensive and I have so little choice. I can't buy Oregon wine.

4. I can't do deals through Charles Schwab.

5. I can have a cheap Chinese phone but I can't have a Verizon plan.

6. I must log in to Netflix Canada.

Edited April 9 by August1991

August1991 · April 9

More broadly, thinking in a different way, why do we have NORAD?

Who are we (Americans/Canadians) protecting ourselves against?

The Soviet Union?

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As an entity, a continent, I think that we Canadians and Americans should rethink our affairs.

SpankyMcFarland · April 9

7 hours ago, August1991 said:

And yet, make no mistake, Trump is correct.

1. When I fly from Toronto to Montreal, it's expensive. I can't fly United.

2. I cannot buy milk from the US even if is identified as GMO.

3. All cheese is expensive and I have so little choice. I can't buy Oregon wine.

4. I can't do deals through Charles Schwab.

5. I can have a cheap Chinese phone but I can't have a Verizon plan.

6. I must log in to Netflix Canada.

He’s not correct about comparative advantage in trade between nations. That issue was resolved in 1817.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage

I have no particular desire to protect the telecom or airline industries here, or supply management. However, bear in mind that: we already run a trade deficit on dairy and agricultural products; the US subsidizes its own farmers and employs thousands of illegal workers to collect that milk. Trump is a hypocrite on agriculture as he was in at least one of his own golf clubs.

Aristides · April 9

When it comes to domestic travel, all countries have cabotage laws that prohibit foreign carriers, including the US. The EU is the only exception. If American carriers are allowed into the US, Canadian carriers would have to be given the same rights in the US. That won't happen. Also, US carriers would cherry pick our most lucrative routes and ignore the rest of the country. Air travel is a necessity in a country as large as Canada. Our population is too spread out and isn't large enough or distances short enough to have the same kind of rail service as Europe or Asia.

Giving up the ability to feed ourselves to another country's subsidized agriculture would be a national security threat of the first order. I'm undecided on telecoms but there might be some of the same issues that apply to transportation.

Edited April 9 by Aristides

Boges · April 9

I'm starting to think it's solely to raise revenue. Shift the tax base away from income tax to tariffs. It's a regressive tax only poors have to pay anyway. Don't like it? buy USA!!

Simple narrative. Fixing trade deficits can't be the ultimate goal. How do you fix a trade deficit with an third-world country that sells you clothing and electronics?

The US only really has agriculture to offer. Agriculture built on potash imports from Canada BTW. That's probably why he's not pushing the Canada thing so much lately.