Why you can’t win with MAGA

[Radiorum]

You can’t win with MAGA because they don’t care whether they are wrong or right. They have abandoned truth in favour of the fight. All that matters to them is “getting” the other side. (I’ve seen this attitude in these forums.)

That’s why they respond so favourably when Trump posts something hate-inciting like this:

Jul 20th 2024 - 10:12:25 PM EST

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Every time the Radical Left Democrats, Marxists, Communists, and Fascists indict me, I consider it a GREAT BADGE OF HONOR. I’m being indicted for YOU. Never forget—our enemies want to take away MY FREEDOM because I will never let them take away YOUR FREEDOM. They want to silence ME because I will never let them silence YOU. In the end, they’re not after me, they’re after you—and I’m just standing in their way!

Consider Musk’s recent post below

 

 

Musk’s claim that these people are collecting social security is so obviously untrue (to anyone with a grain of intelligence, which I assume Musk has) and easily disproved. Simple math with these figures shows that if these payments in the table were being made, Social Security would cost about $1 trillion dollars more a year than it actually does. The numbers just don’t work.

 

 

 

So why is Musk lying? And not caring if he does? Because he knows MAGA will respond, without regard to whether it’s true or not. Musk baits MAGA, who will use this as ammunition in their manufactured “fight.”

They don’t care if the numbers are wrong - just like they don’t care if Trump is a dictator. The outrage of the “other side” is the goal. (As one MAGA member here said – it’s about freaking them out.)

Like Trump, Musk manipulates with lies, and it causes me great concern for the country that many are susceptible to this manipulation.  

 

[Nationalist]

Lol...the scent of desperation and panic.

[herbie]

So I hear claims of 150 year olds getting Social Security is because Elon's fetus aged coders only know Python and can't comprehend COBOL business coding.....

[Radiorum]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...the scent of desperation and panic.

Quit sniffing yourself. It's gross.

[User]

24 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

You can’t win with MAGA because they don’t care whether they are wrong or right. They have abandoned truth in favour of the fight. All that matters to them is “getting” the other side. (I’ve seen this attitude in these forums.)

And yet, all our recent interactions end with me pointing out you are making baseless assertions and then you changing the subject and refusing to ever offer facts, logic, or good argument. 

 

[User]

30 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Like Trump, Musk manipulates with lies, and it causes me great concern for the country that many are susceptible to this manipulation.  

There is no manipulation or lies here. Musk made no claim that every single one of them were getting paid, what he said was that this was the table showing who had death set to false. 

Seems worth investigating to be sure how many of those may or may not still be getting paid and why they are marked this way. 

Nothing you posted shows that absolutely none of them are either, it just points out that clearly not all of them would be. 

 

[Radiorum]

12 minutes ago, User said:

baseless assertions and then you changing the subject and refusing to ever offer facts, logic, or good argument. 

All of my assertions have been well-supported. 

5 minutes ago, User said:

There is no manipulation or lies here. Musk made no claim that every single one of them were getting paid, what he said was that this was the table showing who had death set to false. 

Seems worth investigating to be sure how many of those may or may not still be getting paid and why they are marked this way. 

Nothing you posted shows that absolutely none of them are either, it just points out that clearly not all of them would be. 

Thanks for stepping up and being my exemplar.

[User]

Just now, Radiorum said:

All of my assertions have been well-supported. 

This is simply not true LOL. In just the last week almost every thread you and I have been in you have run away from me on when I called you out on this or you change the subject and make yet another baseless assertion instead. 

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, User said:

This is simply not true LOL. In just the last week almost every thread you and I have been in you have run away from me on when I called you out on this or you change the subject and make yet another baseless assertion instead. 

Okay, your last accusation leveled at me was that I did not provide evidence that science was being hurled into chaos by Trump policy, but I had quoted and linked THREE separate articles saying just that.

https://blog.ucsusa.org/pallavi-phartiyal/the-trump-administration-playbook-likely-to-target-science-and-scientists-were-ready-to-fight-back/

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-trumps-first-days-say-about-science-in-the-new-administration/

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-trumps-executive-orders-mean-for-science/

 

I don't know what your problem is, but it isn't me.

[User]

2 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I don't know what your problem is, but it isn't me.

Yes, it continues to be you. 

As I have repeatedly pointed out to you and others, posting a link is not an argument. It is not my job to pointlessly dig through a link hoping it proves whatever you claim. 

If there is something that link that backs up what you claim, then share it, make the argument. 

Also... pointing me to someone else making the same claim you are is not evidence either. Your first link was a blog. 

[Radiorum]

4 minutes ago, User said:

As I have repeatedly pointed out to you and others, posting a link is not an argument. It is not my job to pointlessly dig through a link hoping it proves whatever you claim. 

If there is something that link that backs up what you claim, then share it, make the argument. 

Also... pointing me to someone else making the same claim you are is not evidence either. Your first link was a blog. 

Look, I am quite satisfied I make my points soundly. If you have trouble with them, read more carefully.

I'm done with this.

[WestCanMan]

47 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

You can’t win with MAGA because they don’t care whether they are wrong or right. They have abandoned truth in favour of the fight. All that matters to them is “getting” the other side. (I’ve seen this attitude in these forums.)

Get a grip you lying piece of crap.

I have more honesty in my little finger than every Dem-supporter on the entire planet, and I'm not even exaggerating. 

There's not a single one of you that didn't pretend Biden was mentally healthy, Kamala was a paragon of virtue, the jabs worked and young people needed them, etc. 

Not on my worst day have I ever acted like one of you greasy f'ing weasels.

[Legato]

1 minute ago, User said:

Yes, it continues to be you. 

As I have repeatedly pointed out to you and others, posting a link is not an argument. It is not my job to pointlessly dig through a link hoping it proves whatever you claim. 

If there is something that link that backs up what you claim, then share it, make the argument. 

Also... pointing me to someone else making the same claim you are is not evidence either. Your first link was a blog. 

and the other links are just opinion pieces short on science but strong on crybaby propaganda

 

[User]

1 minute ago, Radiorum said:

Look, I am quite satisfied I make my points soundly. If you have trouble with them, read more carefully.

I'm done with this.

Except, you didn't. You just posted a link, you did not make any sound points. 

 

[Radiorum]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Get a grip you lying piece of crap.

I have more honesty in my little finger than every Dem-supporter on the entire planet, and I'm not even exaggerating. 

There's not a single one of you that didn't pretend Biden was mentally healthy, Kamala was a paragon of virtue, the jabs worked and young people needed them, etc. 

Not on my worst day have I ever acted like one of you greasy f'ing weasels.

Oh wow, you guys just keep on supporting my point.

1 minute ago, User said:

You just posted a link, you did not make any sound points. 

This is not true, I made many sound points.

[Radiorum]

It's almost surreal how dishonest MAGA is

[impartialobserver]

The table in the OP simply gives a count of folks in the SSN database that are aiive and could possibly collect benefits today, tomorrow, next week... Musk puts a spin on it so I can see how one misconstrues it. 

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Oh wow, you guys just keep on supporting my point.

Dream on, silly little turd. 

[User]

23 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

This is not true, I made many sound points.

Where, not here, you just posted a link. 

21 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

It's almost surreal how dishonest MAGA is

When you care enough about honesty in your own posting here, let me know. 

[Nationalist]

18 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

It's almost surreal how dishonest MAGA is

ROFLMAO...Do you really think anyone of substance doesn't see right through your bullshit? I mean come on man! Your entire shtick is "Orangemenbad...Republicans a cult of personality...the Constitution is in danger....AHHH!!! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!!"

Give the shtick a break will ya? We get it...you lost and your down right upset about it. Now run off to the park and play while the adults cook some prosperity.

There's a good Libbie...

[User]

26 minutes ago, Legato said:

and the other links are just opinion pieces short on science but strong on crybaby propaganda

 

And here is the problem: when he posts a link with no added commentary or relevant quotes, we have no idea what he was reading in them to make his point. 

 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...the scent of desperation and panic.

That's your scent whenever your sham agenda is exposed.

[gatomontes99]

After adding those numbers up and multiplying by 2,000 (the average monthly SS check) i came up with just $900B rounded up. The US spends $1.2T on SS. I doubt his numbers are massively wrong.

 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Get a grip you lying piece of crap.

I have more honesty in my little finger than every Dem-supporter on the entire planet, and I'm not even exaggerating. 

There's not a single one of you that didn't pretend Biden was mentally healthy, Kamala was a paragon of virtue, the jabs worked and young people needed them, etc. 

Not on my worst day have I ever acted like one of you greasy f'ing weasels.

Thanks for reporting on your ^dream world.

You're not exaggerating, YOU'RE LYING as USUAL

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Dream on, silly little turd. 

^Name calling is all you got. LMAO

[robosmith]

53 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

ROFLMAO...Do you really think anyone of substance doesn't see right through your bullshit? I mean come on man! Your entire shtick is "Orangemenbad...Republicans a cult of personality...the Constitution is in danger....AHHH!!! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!!"

Give the shtick a break will ya? We get it...you lost and your down right upset about it. Now run off to the park and play while the adults cook some prosperity.

There's a good Libbie...

Yes, ^this post is hilariously DISHONEST with NO EVIDENCE.