Queenmandy85 Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 I've been re-thinking my feelings towards our American neighbours. I found the booing of the US national anthem very disturbing. We are going to have a difficult time for the next few years, but so are the Americans. While President Trump is woefully ill equipped for the role, he was democratically elected and he will be out of office in 204 weeks, 4 days, 17 hours and 12 minutes. (Give or take, depending on how soon I post this). We need to focus on making the recovery when it is over as painless as possible. While tensions are strained, Americans need to know that what ever happens, when they need us, we will be there for them. We have invested decades into building an incredible bond. We cannot let their current difficulties damage that. They are going through a troubled time and we are here for them more than ever. 4 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
CdnFox Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 20 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: I've been re-thinking my feelings towards our American neighbours. I found the booing of the US national anthem very disturbing. We are going to have a difficult time for the next few years, but so are the Americans. While President Trump is woefully ill equipped for the role, he was democratically elected and he will be out of office in 204 weeks, 4 days, 17 hours and 12 minutes. (Give or take, depending on how soon I post this). We need to focus on making the recovery when it is over as painless as possible. While tensions are strained, Americans need to know that what ever happens, when they need us, we will be there for them. We have invested decades into building an incredible bond. We cannot let their current difficulties damage that. They are going through a troubled time and we are here for them more than ever. The Americans will be judged on how they react to trump's attacks on their neighbors. If they're in support of it and don't speak out against trump's blatant attempts to corrupt our sovereignty and destroy our economy then I think it's absolutely justified to hold them in contempt and Malice. But we won't know that till time passes. After all right now there isn't even a canada-specific tariff. We'll see how they handle things as time goes on As to the booing I'm absolutely against that. Sports is an area where we can set aside our politics and what separates us and come together for a moment And just be human beings with each other. Regardless of our nation's differences, regardless of our politics, no matter what divides us it is absolutely critical that we remember that there are things we can enjoy together and are things that connect us, otherwise we will see the other as being inhuman and that is a very very dangerous and destructive thing. They are still people. Even if they're people were mad at 2 1 Quote
Aristides Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 Sorry, not cutting them any slack. I have no problem with booing their anthem and considering the contempt they have shown us, could care less if they boo ours. At least that would be honest. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 2 hours ago, Aristides said: Sorry, not cutting them any slack. I have no problem with booing their anthem and considering the contempt they have shown us, could care less if they boo ours. At least that would be honest. Don't you think there's got to be one place though where we are able to function and put aside our political differences? If every single thing is about politics do you think that that's going to lead to a healthy result? I have my doubts 1 Quote
Aristides Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 7 hours ago, CdnFox said: Don't you think there's got to be one place though where we are able to function and put aside our political differences? If every single thing is about politics do you think that that's going to lead to a healthy result? I have my doubts Nope, not when they are threatening our existence. They need to know exactly how we feel. We didn’t start this. 1 Quote
User Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 54 minutes ago, Aristides said: Nope, not when they are threatening our existence. They need to know exactly how we feel. We didn’t start this. No one is threatening your existence. Trump has made a few dumb comments about you being the 51st state. There are no serious plans or actions in place to do so. If you are fearing for your existence, it is nothing more than your own irrational overreaction and nothing we are doing. Quote
Aristides Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 8 minutes ago, User said: No one is threatening your existence. Trump has made a few dumb comments about you being the 51st state. Your Stain in Chief has repeatedly said he wants to use economic pressure to force Canada into statehood and this is your idea of a head of state. Canadians are more than justified it telling The Stain, you and all the others who put him in office to go fVck yourselves any way they see fit. Quote There are no serious plans or actions in place to do so. If you are fearing for your existence, it is nothing more than your own irrational overreaction and nothing we are doing. Well, we are just taking Trump at his word and I sure as hell wouldn't expect any support from the likes of you if he is serious. Quote
User Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: Your Stain in Chief has repeatedly said he wants to use economic pressure to force Canada into statehood and this is your idea of a head of state. Canadians are more than justified it telling The Stain, you and all the others who put him in office to go fVck yourselves any way they see fit. No, he has said he wants to use economic pressure to secure better deals regarding trade and border security. He has joked about you being the 51st state. 5 minutes ago, Aristides said: Well, we are just taking Trump at his word and I sure as hell wouldn't expect any support from the likes of you if he is serious. Give me the exact words of Trump that you find the most threatening example of him saying he would somehow force you to become the 51st state. The words that have some kind of serious substance, plan of action... Quote
Aristides Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 3 minutes ago, User said: No, he has said he wants to use economic pressure to secure better deals regarding trade and border security. He has joked about you being the 51st state. Give me the exact words of Trump that you find the most threatening example of him saying he would somehow force you to become the 51st state. The words that have some kind of serious substance, plan of action... "words that have some kind of serious substance" FFS, don't you think all the words that come out of a presidents mouth should have serious substance, particularly when he keeps repeating them and particularly when it comes to neighbouring countries? Nothing is off limits to you when it comes to what this guy does and Canadians don't give a shit how you interpret them because they are reaching their own conclusions. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 (edited) Trump is territorially threatening us, Denmark and Panama and we are all supposed to treat it as a joke. As well as arbitrarily trying to change the name of the Gulf of Mexico. Edited February 17 by Aristides 1 Quote
Popular Post Goddess Posted February 17 Popular Post Report Posted February 17 13 minutes ago, Aristides said: As well as arbitrarily trying to change the name of the Gulf of Mexico. He was too late anyways. I had already re-named it. 5 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
User Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 41 minutes ago, Aristides said: "words that have some kind of serious substance" FFS, don't you think all the words that come out of a presidents mouth should have serious substance, particularly when he keeps repeating them and particularly when it comes to neighbouring countries? Nothing is off limits to you when it comes to what this guy does and Canadians don't give a shit how you interpret them because they are reaching their own conclusions. Notice... you did not provide the words. Again, what are these threatening words from Trump you are basing all this fear-mongering on? As far as I can tell, it was just a social media post and off hand comment about being the 51st state. Is that all you got? 37 minutes ago, Aristides said: Trump is territorially threatening us, Denmark and Panama and we are all supposed to treat it as a joke. As well as arbitrarily trying to change the name of the Gulf of Mexico. Context matters. Panama has been letting China creep in around the canal. Those threats were around that. Rubio went down and got that all squared away it seems. So again... what are these specific threats Trump has made to threaten Canada you are talking about? Quote
Aristides Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 (edited) 5 minutes ago, User said: Notice... you did not provide the words. Again, what are these threatening words from Trump you are basing all this fear-mongering on? As far as I can tell, it was just a social media post and off hand comment about being the 51st state. Is that all you got? It isn't offhand he has repeated it several times and confirmed it when asked if he was serious on FOX no less. But I and other Canadians don't have to prove anything to you, because you don't listen anyway. PS And we don't require your permission when it comes to what we think, say or do. Edited February 17 by Aristides Quote
User Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: It isn't offhand he has repeated it several times and confirmed it when asked if he was serious on FOX no less. But I and other Canadians don't have to prove anything to you, because you don't listen anyway. Repeated what? What specifically did he say that was so threatening? Quote
CdnFox Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 3 hours ago, Aristides said: Nope, not when they are threatening our existence. They need to know exactly how we feel. We didn’t start this. At the end of the day they can probably end our existence if they want. Maybe it's not the worst thing in the world to have them think of us as friends at least a little bit. If it becomes a battle of hatred where they hate us and we hate them that's going to end badly for us. I'm all for fighting for Canada. But a smart person picks their battles Quote
Aristides Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: At the end of the day they can probably end our existence if they want. Maybe it's not the worst thing in the world to have them think of us as friends at least a little bit. If it becomes a battle of hatred where they hate us and we hate them that's going to end badly for us. I'm all for fighting for Canada. But a smart person picks their battles They have always had the military might to do that. Invading an ally neighbour would destroy whatever reputation the US has left but I don't know that Trump and MAGA's care. User laughs it off but it isn't his country's sovereignty and he stands to lose nothing if it isn't a joke, so why should cut him any slack when he just justifies anything that comes out of Trump's mouth, regardless of how big the lie or insulting it is. Americans need to understand that we do not consider this a joke and neither would they if the shoe was on the other foot and a nation much stronger than them was making comments about taking them over. What would it take for you to fight? 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 5 hours ago, Goddess said: He was too late anyways. I had already re-named it. I've been calling it that for years. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Aristides said: They have always had the military might to do that. Invading an ally neighbour would destroy whatever reputation the US has left but I don't know that Trump and MAGA's care. Wouldn't be the first time Quote User laughs it off but it isn't his country's sovereignty and he stands to lose nothing if it isn't a joke, so why should cut him any slack when he just justifies anything that comes out of Trump's mouth, regardless of how big the lie or insulting it is. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing nice to say about what trump is doing right now with regards to Canada. The insults and such are grossly inappropriate for a head of state. And I think this is going to do some lasting harm that perhaps they should have thought about it a little more carefully. And to be the honest I think a lot of Americans still think it is a joke. I thought it was a joke too, although I'm becoming a lot less certain of that. We'll see as time goes on just how serious this is and what the American public does when they realize he's not really kidding Quote
eyeball Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 Cut the Americans some slack Blue states perhaps otherwise rub it in their faces. Maybe American sports teams should speak up before their anthem is sung to set their record straight or just stop singing it altogether. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 17 Report Posted February 17 6 hours ago, User said: No one is threatening your existence. Trump has made a few dumb comments about you being the 51st state. Khrushchev's famous statement we will bury you pushed the world close to WW3. If you've seen one dumbass loudmouthed super-rogue you've seen them all. 2 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Aristides Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Khrushchev's famous statement we will bury you pushed the world close to WW3. If you've seen one dumbass loudmouthed super-rogue you've seen them all. Ya but he is their dumbass loudmouth super-rogue so that's OK. Quote
Videospirit Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 Despite how little dignity Donald Trump has, I do think we need to be wary of how we treat the united states. They have a land border with us and are a military super power. Canada needs to stand up for ourselves, but we need to be diplomatic. Just entirely disrespecting the United States could go very very poorly for us. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 On 2/19/2025 at 7:16 PM, Videospirit said: Despite how little dignity Donald Trump has, I do think we need to be wary of how we treat the united states. They have a land border with us and are a military super power. Canada needs to stand up for ourselves, but we need to be diplomatic. Just entirely disrespecting the United States could go very very poorly for us. Respect is a two way street. Don't expect it if you aren't prepared to show it. Quote
Videospirit Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: Respect is a two way street. Don't expect it if you aren't prepared to show it. Mutual respect is not the only thing to warrant respect. Respect for power and authority are also valid reasons, so while the US has tossed Mutual Respect out the window, we still have reason to respect their power. Quote
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