Border Czar, Tom Homan floats investigation into Alexandria Occasio Cortez, after webinar for illegal immigrants was conducted by her office.

[gatomontes99]

5 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Telling people to ask law enforcement to produce a warrant is not telling them how to hide.

Of course it isn't. No one said it was. Giving legal advice that is proper doesn't mean that everything they said was legal.

Telling illegal aliens that ICE picks people up in public places during the mornings or at scheduled immigration meetings is telling them how to avoid ICE.

[Black Dog]

1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said:

Of course it isn't. No one said it was. Giving legal advice that is proper doesn't mean that everything they said was legal.

Telling illegal aliens that ICE picks people up in public places during the mornings or at scheduled immigration meetings is telling them how to avoid ICE.

Telling people how to avoid ICE isn't "concealing, harboring, or shielding from detection" either.

[gatomontes99]

1 minute ago, Black Dog said:

Telling people how to avoid ICE isn't "concealing, harboring, or shielding from detection" either.

Its literally shielding from detection.

[Black Dog]

Just now, gatomontes99 said:

Its literally shielding from detection.

It's "literally" not. Literally shielding someone from detection would be physically hiding them. Telling them to watch out for the pigs when they're out and about is not that.

[gatomontes99]

6 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

It's "literally" not. Literally shielding someone from detection would be physically hiding them. Telling them to watch out for the pigs when they're out and about is not that.

You've added the word physically of your own accord. The law is defined above. You don't have to own or even know where the illegal aliens is hiding. Providing them the knowledge to avoid detection is a form of shielding.

[Black Dog]

10 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

You've added the word physically of your own accord. The law is defined above.

Because that's what the law is referring to.

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You don't have to own or even know where the illegal aliens is hiding. Providing them the knowledge to avoid detection is a form of shielding.

It's not and no sane person would think so. Stretching the law to cover things like this would almost certainly be a violation of the First Amendment. You might have a case if there was a instance of people being tipped off about a specific law enforcement action at a specific place and time but a general statement that ICE likes to hang out at immigration check ins or parole appointments is no more actionable than telling them that the pigs like to hang out at the doughnut shop.

[Aristides]

Sheinbaum fires back.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/14/mexico-gunmakers-lawsuit-terror

Canada should join Mexico's suit.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/13/claudia-sheinbaum-us-drug-cartel

Edited February 14 by Aristides

[gatomontes99]

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

Because that's what the law is referring to.

It's not and no sane person would think so. Stretching the law to cover things like this would almost certainly be a violation of the First Amendment. You might have a case if there was a instance of people being tipped off about a specific law enforcement action at a specific place and time but a general statement that ICE likes to hang out at immigration check ins or parole appointments is no more actionable than telling them that the pigs like to hang out at the doughnut shop.

Give me a link that shows shielding has to be physical.

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, Black Dog said:

LMAO, don't be retarded. The point is to create fear and intimidate political opponents regardless of whether they have cause. That's what fascists do.

That's true, that's where they learned it from. The fascist democrats have been doing this for years now.

It was inevitable that eventually the right would copy them. Which is something you were told many many times over the last couple of years.

Enjoy the payback  

[Nationalist]

They cannot put AOC in jail. The fashion is awful and there is no makeup.

On the other hand, they can scare the b'jeebers outta the little fashion plate as well as her Demoncratic friends. 

Payback is a b1tch but...you dumb Libbies were warned.

Enjoy the next 4 years Tweenkies.

I know I will... ROFLMAO!

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

They cannot put AOC in jail. The fashion is awful and there is no makeup.

Just turn the lights out

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On the other hand, they can scare the b'jeebers outta the little fashion plate as well as her Demoncratic friends. 

Payback is a b1tch but...you dumb Libbies were warned.

Enjoy the next 4 years Tweenkies.

I know I will... ROFLMAO!

 

Well this is the thing. The democrats have made punishment by process of your political enemies a very real thing. I expect to see a fair bit of it now that the shoe is on the other foot and whether she's put in jail or not they can make her go broke and focused on anything other than pushing forward her agenda it's still a win for them

To be clear, this is absolutely terrible. This is the worst kind of behavior that we could see, and will lead to even further degraded faith in the judicial system.

But the problem is the democrats have given the republicans no choice. Democrats have shown no interest in stopping this Behavior or not doing it in the future, so all of the republicans can do is hit back twice as hard and hope that the message sinks in that if they continue their behavior when they get back into power that someday the reoublicans will get back into power and return the favor again.

The process does not work when only one side follows the rules

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[Black Dog]

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That's true, that's where they learned it from. The fascist democrats have been doing this for years now.

It was inevitable that eventually the right would copy them. Which is something you were told many many times over the last couple of years.

Enjoy the payback  

The Nazis had the Dolchstoßlegende, today's equivalents in the GOP and its sycophants like you have "lawfare" and whatever insane myths you've gorged yourselves on over the last few years.

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To be clear, this is absolutely terrible. This is the worst kind of behavior that we could see, and will lead to even further degraded faith in the judicial system.

 

But the problem is the democrats have given the republicans no choice. 

I imagine you say the same thing after you beat your partner over spilling your drink or at least you would if anyone was actually stupid enough to be in a relationship with you.

16 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Give me a link that shows shielding has to be physical.

Give me a link showing that it's not or that telling someone about the general activities of ICE is ilegal.

[CdnFox]

Just now, Black Dog said:

The Nazis had the Dolchstoßlegende, today's equivalents in the GOP and its sycophants like you have "lawfare" and whatever insane myths you've gorged yourselves on over the last few years.

ROFLMAO!!! Oh my god, there is absolutely NOTHING similar between those two things in the slightest     LOL 

Holy shit man, you've gone from bad to worse to "maybe we should send help" when it comes to your mental slide with word meanings  LOL

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I imagine you say the same thing after you beat your partner over spilling your drink or at least you would if anyone was actually stupid enough to be in a relationship with you.

Yes, you do seem to spend a lot of time imagining what i'm doing, and it's always the weirdest stuff.  While i appreciate that you're so obsessed and enthralled by me, i have to remind you that i'm simply not interested. 

In any case punishment by process and lawfare are very real things. 

but hey, i guess if you feel they're not then you wont complain when the GOP slaps a bunch of charges on AOC right?  Right? Won't complain right? Wow, that's quite a look in your face..... 

[Nationalist]

29 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Just turn the lights out

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Well this is the thing. The democrats have made punishment by process of your political enemies a very real thing. I expect to see a fair bit of it now that the shoe is on the other foot and whether she's put in jail or not they can make her go broke and focused on anything other than pushing forward her agenda.

To be clear, this is absolutely terrible. This is the worst kind of behavior that we could see, and will lead to even further degraded faith in the judicial system.

But the problem is the democrats have given the republicans no choice. Democrats have shown no interest in stopping this Behavior or not doing it in the future, so all of the republicans can do is hit back twice as hard and hope that the message sinks in that if they continue their behavior when they get back into power that someday the democrats will get back into power and return the favor again.

The process does not work when only one side follows the rules

Agreed. It's an accumulation of back-handedness. Not at all good. What's the solution? Take the high-road and hope the Libbies learn? Besides that, Trump has every right to treat the Democrats like mere noise makers.

This TDS hatred is a psychosis that rots one's morality. To them, nothing is out of bounds. They justify everything with fear and accusations.

Best thing I can think of...ignore them and treat them as the psychotic little sh1ts they are and hope they get the message...

But I doubt they will.

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Agreed. It's an accumulation of back-handedness. Not at all good. What's the solution? Take the high-road and hope the Libbies learn?

to borrow the old roman phrase, you touch it with a needle. 

Even if Republican lawmakers completely disapprove of this kind of nonsense (and i believe many do,) and even if they would happily see a return to normalicy and even if they would be willing to be the ones to take the high road and not take revenge for what the dems did, there is ZERO reason to believe that the dems will stop this behavior in the future at all or even slow down.  Or even not speed up. 

So their only choice is to double down on it, hurt the dems far more than the dems hurt them, and send the loud and clear message that "hey if you get in again and pull this same crap in the future, then no matter what we're going to be 2'ce as bad in return. "

Wait and watch trump pardon the entire republican party and friends for any crimes the way biden started to.  

Maybe after that the two parties can have secret back room discussions about laying off that crap in the future

[Black Dog]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

ROFLMAO!!! Oh my god, there is absolutely NOTHING similar between those two things in the slightest     LOL 

The stab in the back and the idea that Trump was unfairly prosecuted are both myths that fascists used to justify their activities.

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Yes, you do seem to spend a lot of time imagining what i'm doing, and it's always the weirdest stuff.  While i appreciate that you're so obsessed and enthralled by me, i have to remind you that i'm simply not interested. 

I'm too old for you anyway, what with you being an admitted pedophile and all.

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In any case punishment by process and lawfare are very real things. but hey, i guess if you feel they're not then you wont complain when the GOP slaps a bunch of charges on AOC right?  Right? Won't complain right? Wow, that's quite a look in your face..... 

Prosecuting criminals like Trump is different from prosecuting political enemies on, ahem, trumped-up fake charges.

[WestCanMan]

The importance of of protecting "Sources and Methods" has been well-established by the FBI over the past few years, and ICE is no less a member of America's security apparatus than the FBI is.

Clearly this memo is giving away information about ICE's methods to criminals, as seen in the last two bullet-points, and criminals are a serious treat to ICE agents: an ICE agent has already been killed in the line of duty this year.

If an ICE agent gets killed while moving in on a suspect in AOC's district, she's f'ed. Homan isn't screwing around.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

The stab in the back and the idea that Trump was unfairly prosecuted are both myths that fascists used to justify their activities.

There is absolutely no similarity between them !     At all! All you're doing is proving how desperate you are, and it's getting painfully sad to watch. 

 

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I'm too old for you anyway, what with you being an admitted pedophile and all.

You're confusing me with your daddy again

 

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Prosecuting criminals like Trump is different from prosecuting political enemies on, ahem, trumped-up fake charges.

No that's literally exactly what happened. They prosecuted him on trumped up fake charges.

Let me put it this way. I'm 100% certain did any charges AOC or people like her get brought up on will be every bit as legitimate as the ones they charge trump with.

[Black Dog]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

an ICE agent has already been killed in the line of duty this year.

[Black Dog]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

There is absolutely no similarity between them !     At all! All you're doing is proving how desperate you are, and it's getting painfully sad to watch. 

They are both things that aren't true but are the foundational myth of a fascist movement.

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You're confusing me with your daddy again

No no, you admitted you;'re a pedo. In fact you made sure everyone knew you were into little boys specifically.

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No that's literally exactly what happened. They prosecuted him on trumped up fake charges.

That's the myth, yes.

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Let me put it this way. I'm 100% certain did any charges AOC or people like her get brought up on will be every bit as legitimate as the ones they charge trump with.

If I can be perfectly honest: I wish the Biden "regime" as you freaks call it was even half as zealous about pursuing its political enemies as you scumbags think they were. We wouldn't have the problems we have today. 

[User]

51 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

You are, without a doubt, a completely worthless piece of shit. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

They are both things that aren't true but are the foundational myth of a fascist movement.

Entirely wrong. Trump is not a fascist movement, lawfare really is a thing and has been before trump even, trump and the maga people were around long before lawfare became a discussion with them so it's hardly a founding myth

You not realize how pathetic you and your Fellow left-wing supporters look when you talk like this? I warned you a year ago this  kind of talk would cost you the election. People see right through it, there's no sense to it. It's so ridiculous that even a child can look at it and say that your Bonkers for even saying it.

It isn't even that it's just a lie it's that it's a cry for mental health treatment. It makes you and people like you seem like deranged lunatics that the average intelligent person is going to want to distance themselves from.  The "hitler" worship crap just makes you look like you havent' got a single legitimate complaint about trump so you have to make crap up.

For gods sake man, your party of preference has GOT to get itself back to reality and start having real conversations. You're looking full on retarded when you do stuff like this, i absolutely assure you there's enough REAL issues with trump that you don't have to make fake shite up!

Edited February 16 by CdnFox

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, Black Dog said:

The sad part is that you're not even an outlier. Just a run-of-the-mill, lowlife leftard.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

The sad part is that you're not even an outlier. Just a run-of-the-mill, lowlife leftard.

That really is the sad part. Whenever you encounter the left on the web anywhere they're all the same. No ability to think or reason, entirely driven by spite hatred and emotion.

They're like anti-vulcans or something. Instead of live long and prosper they're all die now and fail

[Deluge]

On 2/14/2025 at 1:24 PM, Barquentine said:

Paranoid much?

How am I being paranoid, dipshit? Are you saying AOC is fighting just as hard for white conservative males as she is for anyone else?