robosmith Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 Instead of appealing their rulings, Trump gives Federal judges the finger. Judge Refuses to Let Trump Defy Order on Federal ... The Daily Beast https://www.thedailybeast.com › judge-refuses-to-let-tru... 4 hours ago — A federal judge indicated Monday he won't sit idly as Donald Trump pushes the limits of his power. Judge John J. McConnell Jr. called out ... Defying court orders? Trump, Musk, Vance appear to lay ... The Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com › Politics › The Fix 3 hours ago — (Trump himself said: “No judge should, frankly, be allowed to make that kind of a decision.” Again, the suggestion is not just that this ruling ... Judge finds White House violated order to stop funding ... BBC https://www.bbc.com › news › articles 1 hour ago — The Trump administration has violated a court order by refusing to reverse a freeze of billions in government funds, a judge ruled Monday. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 Where was the outrage when Biden defied the SCOTUS? Jack Smith defied the SCOTUS? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
robosmith Posted February 11 Author Report Posted February 11 (edited) 21 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Where was the outrage when Biden defied the SCOTUS? Jack Smith defied the SCOTUS? Where is your PROOF that ^this happened? Getting slapped down by the SCOTUS is NOT "defied." Duh Edited February 11 by robosmith Quote
Deluge Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 30 minutes ago, robosmith said: Instead of appealing their rulings, Trump gives Federal judges the finger. Judge Refuses to Let Trump Defy Order on Federal ... The Daily Beast https://www.thedailybeast.com › judge-refuses-to-let-tru... 4 hours ago — A federal judge indicated Monday he won't sit idly as Donald Trump pushes the limits of his power. Judge John J. McConnell Jr. called out ... Defying court orders? Trump, Musk, Vance appear to lay ... The Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com › Politics › The Fix 3 hours ago — (Trump himself said: “No judge should, frankly, be allowed to make that kind of a decision.” Again, the suggestion is not just that this ruling ... Judge finds White House violated order to stop funding ... BBC https://www.bbc.com › news › articles 1 hour ago — The Trump administration has violated a court order by refusing to reverse a freeze of billions in government funds, a judge ruled Monday. Activist judges DESERVE the middle finger. lol Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: Where is your PROOF that ^this happened? Getting slapped down by the SCOTUS is NOT "defied." Duh https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/2932356/how-biden-defied-supreme-court-to-cancel-144-billion-in-student-loans/ Here’s how Biden defied the Supreme Court to cancel $144 billion in student loans https://www.npr.org/2025/01/14/nx-s1-5259567/jack-smith-said-he-could-have-convicted-trump-we-looked-at-the-report Jack Smith said he could have convicted Trump. We looked at the report January 14, 2025 ***but earlier*** https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf Immunity for official acts Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
myata Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 3 hours ago, Deluge said: Activist judges DESERVE the middle finger. lol You see what this is about and everyone was warned about it. It began with legitimizing mafia bosses as heads of the government and it will end with them destroying the rule of law and democracy. Imaging if America just passes by and swallows this. That would be it: the destination. Easy, no? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
myata Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 (edited) This event, if persists should be called "the constitutional crisis". The constitution itself hangs in uncertainty from there. Either the rule of law persists and prevails. Or, it's down the authoritarian and then dictatorial path, from here. Yes: it has arrived, not even a month in. Federal judge says Trump administration violated court order in funds freeze litigation "McConnell suggested so, but we’ll see what happens if there isn’t clear compliance according to the judge. Of course, as we saw in a different Donald Trump context, namely his criminal trial where he serially violated a court order and faced no significant penalty for doing so, the existence of a court order and a finding that someone violated it is only as useful as the penalty imposed." If the law isn't enforced it's just as it doesn't exist, for some at least. And it would mean no rule of law, equal and universal, as we used to know it. From here. Edited February 11 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
myata Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 It's bizarre that media and political shell in the States just shrugging this off as pretty much normal order of business. No way they couldn't get that it breaks, blows up the very foundations of the Constitution. And so, they are fine with it, accepting it. At this stage, the game has become more important than democracy. But how would we know it's still here? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Nationalist Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 This is obviously going to be overturned and next up...the Pentagon and the department of education. Enjoy the ride Libbies. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 8 hours ago, myata said: You see what this is about and everyone was warned about it. It began with legitimizing mafia bosses as heads of the government and it will end with them destroying the rule of law and democracy. Imaging if America just passes by and swallows this. That would be it: the destination. Easy, no? Tell me something, myata; why do things like open borders, DEI infusion, a weaponized judicial system and fraud, waste and abuse turn you on? Quote
Black Dog Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 (edited) 12 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/2932356/how-biden-defied-supreme-court-to-cancel-144-billion-in-student-loans/ Here’s how Biden defied the Supreme Court to cancel $144 billion in student loan What's your rule about not reading your own source? Quote Biden’s previous loan cancellation plan was ruled illegal by the Supreme Court. However, his more recent debt transfers rest on a different legal authority than the original, $400 billion-plus plan. ... Yet to date, no major lawsuits have emerged challenging the legality of Biden’s post-Supreme Court forgiveness, even as he announces a new round every few weeks. So Biden complied with the Supreme Court to find a different way to enact his policy that was legal, he didn't ignore a court ruling and plow ahead with his original plan. Now that we've dispensed with that pathetic false equivalency, do you have an actual defence of Trump's intention to defy a court order? Edited February 11 by Black Dog 1 Quote
robosmith Posted February 11 Author Report Posted February 11 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: What's your rule about not reading your own source? These sort of LIES is why gato is on my ignore list. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 11 hours ago, myata said: You see what this is about and everyone was warned about it. It began with legitimizing mafia bosses as heads of the government and it will end with them destroying the rule of law and democracy. Imaging if America just passes by and swallows this. That would be it: the destination. Easy, no? It began when the democrats pulled the same crap themselves and we're told at the time not to do so because once that line is crossed there is nothing to stop the next government from crossing it as well. But losers like you applauded it when it was someone they liked and now are wondering how it could possibly happen when it's someone you don't The republicans are simply going through a door the democrats opened and at the time everybody said to the democrats don't complain when it's used against you. Well here you go Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
West Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 DOGE is not a new program. It was started and fully funded under BARRY but is now just being re-aligned. Rasmussen explains it in this post. On 2/11/2025 at 1:54 AM, myata said: This event, if persists should be called "the constitutional crisis". The constitution itself hangs in uncertainty from there. Either the rule of law persists and prevails. Or, it's down the authoritarian and then dictatorial path, from here. Yes: it has arrived, not even a month in. Federal judge says Trump administration violated court order in funds freeze litigation "McConnell suggested so, but we’ll see what happens if there isn’t clear compliance according to the judge. Of course, as we saw in a different Donald Trump context, namely his criminal trial where he serially violated a court order and faced no significant penalty for doing so, the existence of a court order and a finding that someone violated it is only as useful as the penalty imposed." If the law isn't enforced it's just as it doesn't exist, for some at least. And it would mean no rule of law, equal and universal, as we used to know it. From here. This is a pretty silly argument. It's basically saying governments can't implement measures to prevent fraud. Quote
robosmith Posted February 14 Author Report Posted February 14 8 minutes ago, West said: DOGE is not a new program. It was started and fully funded under BARRY but is now just being re-aligned. Rasmussen explains it in this post. Just look at the next post on X (below ^this one) and see the word "ESTABLISHING" to know ^this is a LIE, IF it already existed, ESTABLISHING would not be necessary. Duh Quote
West Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 4 minutes ago, robosmith said: Just look at the next post on X (below ^this one) and see the word "ESTABLISHING" to know ^this is a LIE, IF it already existed, ESTABLISHING would not be necessary. Duh It already existed and was used to fix the failed Obamacare rollout per the Tweet. As per the EO, nothing new was created just realigned. Executive branch restructures and realign things all the time. Quote
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