Aristides Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 73% of guns used in Ontario crimes originated in the US. Quote
Aristides Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 12 hours ago, BeaverFever said: That was announced back in December you dipshit. The only new thing is that some public official is going to have “fentanyl czar added to their title for a little while. You think that was worth destroying the economy for? Just on the weekend Trump was saying there is nothing Canada can do to avoid his tariffs. He said he would increase them if Canada dared to retaliate Now his slinking away with a limp dick after Canada took him to the woodshed I nominate Danielle Smith for Fentanyl Czar. Quote
Aristides Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Trumps thinking isn't three dimensional, it's one dimensional. There are only winners and losers to him and that is why he has screwed up. He can't contemplate a win win or understand that he can't always force others to do his bidding. Quote
eyeball Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: But what I love is that I say this is how something is going to happen then it happens then you turn around and make some sort of weird claim about it being a conspiracy theory just because what I said was going to happen happened. So your on his side again for the third time or is this the fourth time now? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Black Dog Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Don't take the eye off the ball, these people are our enemies. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 44 minutes ago, eyeball said: So your on his side again for the third time or is this the fourth time now? There's no side to be had there. Those ar just simple facts. It's your own hatred and bigotry that causes you to think that if someone says a fact that doesn't agree with your ideology they must be on the other side. This is the same weak thinking that we see when the left insists that we follow the science when it supports them and then utterly demands that the science be ignored and refuses to speak on it when it doesn't support them. These are simple facts. Trump frequently uses this tactic for negotiations. He never intended to apply tariffs, he wanted to see if he could shake loose a few extra benefits for the border and then tackle his real issues which is trade and he wanted to create an environment that he believes is beneficial for that. I'll leave it to you to argue whether that is a good thing or a bad thing or if we should be pro trump or anti trump, but regardless of any of that that fact remains that that's what happened. I don't appreciate people using terms like woketard overly much, I don't feel a contributes to the debate, but it would really be great if you could stop acting in a way that makes that term pop into everybody's head right off the bat Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
godzilla Posted February 4 Author Report Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Don't take the eye off the ball, these people are our enemies. yeah, thats really going to help with the sales of US products in Canada and Mexico! ahahahaha! the Trump administration is truly INSANE!! every country in the world is going to reap benefits from the Trump administration... except the US! Quote
eyeball Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: I don't appreciate people using terms like woketard overly much, I don't feel a contributes to the debate, but it would really be great if you could stop acting in a way that makes that term pop into everybody's head right off the bat You should consider your own act in context of the term lickspittle. In the meantime consider what Trump's top economic advisors are telling him. https://financialpost.com/news/stephen-miran-economist-trump-economic-advisory-team It also isn’t clear what Mr. Trump really wants his tariffs to achieve. Are they about reducing the flow of fentanyl, or is his real goal to rewrite the North American trade deal he signed in his first term? If it’s the latter, there’s more political volatility ahead. Mr. Trump’s weekend tariff broadside against a pair of neighbors has opened a new era of economic policy uncertainty that won’t calm down until the President does. As we warned many times before Election Day, this is the biggest economic risk of Donald Trump’s second term. https://archive.ph/iAyrN#selection-6029.246-6033.273 It seems clear enough to me. Trump wants America to dominate the world and subordinate every other market and economy on the planet to theirs. So Trump's first salvo of tariffs blew back in their face a little more harshly than they anticipated, like the proverbial Dane they'll be back. Tariffs are all Trump really has at his disposal, notwithstanding for the moment the US military. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
gatomontes99 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 4 hours ago, Aristides said: More MAGA bullshit So, should I tell a person that ways 500 lbs not to cut out junk food because a twinkle is only 200 calories? No. Some is bad, more is bad, a lot is bad. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
godzilla Posted February 4 Author Report Posted February 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: So, should I tell a person that ways 500 lbs not to cut out junk food because a twinkle is only 200 calories? No. Some is bad, more is bad, a lot is bad. whatever! Trump blew his wad! haahahaha! didn't use his perceived leverage to get ANYTHING! tested his leverage before negotiating and found that it had no teeth at all! hilarious! NAFTA will get re-negotiated... without these threats. Just like the first time with Trump. Trump will again call it the most beautiful win. it will benefit all parties or it won't get signed. Edited February 4 by godzilla Quote
impartialobserver Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 6 hours ago, Aristides said: More MAGA bullshit interesting stuff for sure. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 hours ago, eyeball said: You should consider your own act in context of the term lickspittle. So what you're saying is you really actually are a worktard. Well there you go In the meantime consider what Trump's top economic advisors are telling him. https://financialpost.com/news/stephen-miran 2 hours ago, eyeball said: You should consider your own act in context of the term lickspittle. In the meantime consider what Trump's top economic advisors are telling him. https://financialpost.com/news/stephen-miran-economist-trump-economic-advisory-team It also isn’t clear what Mr. Trump really wants his tariffs to achieve. Are they about reducing the flow of fentanyl, or is his real goal to rewrite the North American trade deal he signed in his first term? If it’s the latter, there’s more political volatility ahead. Mr. Trump’s weekend tariff broadside against a pair of neighbors has opened a new era of economic policy uncertainty that won’t calm down until the President does. As we warned many times before Election Day, this is the biggest economic risk of Donald Trump’s second term. https://archive.ph/iAyrN#selection-6029.246-6033.273 So you're saying this guy basically thinks i was right Well thanks for that. Like I said it was never about the border, it's about trade. And like I said it's a 30-day reprieve while trump sees what he can get on the trade front. Quote It seems clear enough to me. Yes but we've already established that you're a woketard, so that doesn't really mean much. All we can say so far is that trump has made it clear that he wants to see more Industries and manufacturing brought back to America including Automotive, And he wants to see an expansion of American Business into other countries. He's never been happy with the Canadian Free Trade Agreement and over the next 30 days we will probably see the groundwork for what he would like to have. And he's hardly the first president to want to move America in that direction. Biden wasn't very nice to us either Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
impartialobserver Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 I would not say that Canada won.. they acquiesced to Trump. It was a rational choice. Just hope that this does not affect my trip to Toronto in September. 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: I would not say that Canada won.. they acquiesced to Trump. It was a rational choice. Just hope that this does not affect my trip to Toronto in September. They didn't acquiesce to anything. They threw some coins at a non-problem and made a couple of worthless symbolic gestures "wee another tsar!" that lets Trump pretend he muscled us into submission. Both he and our government know that's not the case, and this is far from over. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
impartialobserver Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Just now, Moonbox said: They didn't acquiesce to anything. They threw some coins at a non-problem and made a couple of worthless symbolic gestures "wee another tsar!" that lets Trump pretend he muscled us into submission. Both he and our government know that's not the case, and this is far from over. They still reacted and seemingly gave Trump what he wanted. I do think that Canada should not have been a target but that's for another day. Quote
godzilla Posted February 4 Author Report Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Moonbox said: They didn't acquiesce to anything. They threw some coins at a non-problem and made a couple of worthless symbolic gestures "wee another tsar!" that lets Trump pretend he muscled us into submission. Both he and our government know that's not the case, and this is far from over. yeah, more photo ops that cost US businesses money that won't be coming back for awhile. Quote
Moonbox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Just now, impartialobserver said: They still reacted and seemingly gave Trump what he wanted. I do think that Canada should not have been a target but that's for another day. The idea that Trump backed off of 25% tariffs because Canada committed to throw $200M (basically nothing) to border security and made a few hollow symbolic gestures is kind of silly, in my mind. Trump didn't have clear policy goals here. He just wanted to rattle cages. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
godzilla Posted February 4 Author Report Posted February 4 Just now, impartialobserver said: They still reacted and seemingly gave Trump what he wanted. I do think that Canada should not have been a target but that's for another day. no. Trump framed it that way and they allowed Trump to frame it that way because they are adults and don't care how it got framed. and they will do it again when they entice Trump with another opportunity to frame it that way. but the next time they will have extracted some concession from Trump for the opportunity. Quote
Moonbox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, godzilla said: yeah, more photo ops that cost US businesses money that won't be coming back for awhile. Yeah can almost be certain that this is ultimately going to cost the US more than the pittance they got out of it, just in the ill-will it generated towards the USA. Consumer habits will change here just because of this. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
impartialobserver Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Just now, Moonbox said: Yeah can almost be certain that this is ultimately going to cost the US more than the pittance they got out of it, just in the ill-will it generated towards the USA. Consumer habits will change here just because of this. I hope that you are correct. Just to be clear.. I am not a Trump supporter in the least. Quote
Moonbox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 There's no question that I'm correct on that. The scale of the pushback and the changes are up for debate, but there's going to be a substantial percentage of Canadians who stop buying American, stop traveling to the US, and diversify away from the US on account of how immature and unstable the administration is, and the electorate that enabled him. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, Moonbox said: There's no question that I'm correct on that. The scale of the pushback and the changes are up for debate, but there's going to be a substantial percentage of Canadians who stop buying American, stop traveling to the US, and diversify away from the US on account of how immature and unstable the administration is, and the electorate that enabled him. I noticed an article in one of the Canadian papers today was all about how to cancel your American vacation and what you need to know. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
impartialobserver Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 14 minutes ago, Moonbox said: There's no question that I'm correct on that. The scale of the pushback and the changes are up for debate, but there's going to be a substantial percentage of Canadians who stop buying American, stop traveling to the US, and diversify away from the US on account of how immature and unstable the administration is, and the electorate that enabled him. Scale is always important. What I am hoping that you are correct on is that the pushback is so great so as to motivate change. A few cancelled vacations will do nothing. A few thousand and it will impact Florida greatly being as they are highly dependent on jobs centered around naics code 71 and 72 Quote
eyeball Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: So you're saying this guy basically thinks i was right Well thanks for that. You certainly may be now but you change your mind the way Trump changes his diaper. What direction or position you'll be triggered to take next is anyone's guess. Like with COVID, you're a vaxtard one day and an anti-vaxtard the next. A tard in any case. 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: All we can say so far is that trump has made it clear that he wants to see more Industries and manufacturing brought back to America including Automotive, And he wants to see an expansion of American Business into other countries. Everybody wants that but Trump wants far more. He wants American economic hegemony and world domination of global markets and he uses fentanyl the way Dubya used WMDs and tariffs like they were WMDs. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 40 minutes ago, eyeball said: You certainly may be now but you change your mind the way Trump changes his diaper. What direction or position you'll be triggered to take next is anyone's guess. I've said the same thing since day one Nothing has changed I know that it drives you absolutely insane that I'm always right in my predictions and you are rarely. But this wasn't particularly rocket science. Like I said back at the beginning this is tactic straight out of his book. This is how trump does business for better or for worse. And my position never changed through covid either. But if it makes you feel better at night to lie to yourself and toss and turn knowing that I'm smarter than you and the only way you could cope with it was to pretend that I changed my opinions and you go right ahead. You already have enough mental health issues and I don't want to create more for you As to the rest all I can say is..... Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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