Dougie93 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Canadians aren't afraid of craven mentally ill traitors. You've already lost. You just haven't figured it out yet all we want is to save HM Canadian Armed Forces from being totally destroyed by the radical left if it takes Donald Trump threatening Canada to do that, so be it win-win Quote
Legato Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: No, but if you're a Trump supporter you gotta be MAGA. If you're endorsed by Musk, you gotta be MAGA. If you repeat MAGA rhetoric verbatim, you gotta be MAGA Ergo, Polievre is MAGA. There you go again with your galactic wide brush. In the mathematically rigorous formulation of quantum mechanics, the state of a quantum mechanical system is a vector � belonging to a (separable) complex Hilbert space �. This vector is postulated to be normalized under the Hilbert space inner product, that is, it obeys 〈�,�〉=1, and it is well-defined up to a complex number of modulus 1 (the global phase), that is, � and ���� represent the same physical system. In other words, the possible states are points in the projective space of a Hilbert space, usually called the complex projective space. The exact nature of this Hilbert space is dependent on the system – for example, for describing position and momentum the Hilbert space is the space of complex square-integrable functions �2(�), while the Hilbert space for the spin of a single proton is simply the space of two-dimensional complex vectors �2 with the usual inner product. I just repeated quantum science rhetoric and it didn't make me a quantum physicist. Therefore you must be Maga. 1 Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: all we want is to save HM Canadian Armed Forces from being totally destroyed by the radical left if it takes Donald Trump threatening Canada to do that, so be it win-win We have already saved them from the undemocratic mentally ill. I assume your discharge was not honourable. Quote
ExFlyer Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: Trump got... exactly what was already offered last December. He also got a united Canada that no longer trusts the U.S. as an economic partner and that is actively looking for other markets to sell its resources because it doesn't trust the U.S. anymore. Trudeau negotiated like a pro and didn't give up anything. He played Trump like a fiddle. And the best part is MAGA Canada has been exposed as pathetic, weak traitors who will now be embarrassed to show their face in public. And the Liberals will feast on Polievre in the next election. Win win win! Trump was not yet thge president in December. 'He got a Canada that has made knee jerk reactions. This is not the first time we have tried to bocyott American goods. Wrong, Trump played Trudeau like a fiddle. Trump bullied and he wonn. If you think this is the last time, you are dreaming. Until Trudeau is gone, we will suffer his wrath. He hates Trudeau, not Canada. The liberals have lost Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
eyeball Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: This is the vision of the world the Left has embraced. I view the things you mentioned as symptoms of a brand of economics the right wing has been championing for decades - the unmitigated concentration of wealth, and of course the power that goes with it, into as few hands as possible. Right wing grievances are nice nuts compared to that. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
ExFlyer Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 hours ago, I am Groot said: Walmart has been notorious for decades for undercutting domestic retailers and producers by importing goods from China. They even have a unit there whose task is to convince domestic suppliers to relocate production to China so they can supply their goods cheaper. Our society, both here and in the US, would be infinitely better off if Sam Walton had been strangled in infancy. Show me a retailer of good that has not imports from China, India, Thailand, Vietnam etc. Walmart is but only one retailer buying goods form the cheapest supplier. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
SpankyMcFarland Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 I doubt whether Trump understands how cars are built in North America these days. Attacking Canada means hurting Michigan immediately. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Whoa there....it seems to me that Trump got exactly what he asked for....more security at the southern and northern borders paid for by Canada and Mexico. Sounds like a win for Trump to me LOL. A simple threat of tariff and Canada and Mexico gave in (or got a one month reprieve). What will the next threat be? Yes, he got a little something although it wasn't that much.. SO FAR. I've said since the beginning whatever trump is claiming his big problem is never is the case. He always wants something else. People are acting like this is over. Like this is done and yesterday's news. He has announced that his people will be meeting with Mexico and Canada and in both cases the vastly larger number of people he named are trade people not drug enforcement people. Over the next 30 days he's going to be going after what he really wants. And that wasn't some cheesy concessions for the border and naming someone The fentanyl czar. But now everyone's breathing a sigh of relief and the relaxed after the tensions so now if he says well we're going to go ahead with the tariffs it was only a 30-day pause it will throw everyone into panic again. That will make his negotiations much easier. People are declaring victory while trump is still doing this warm-ups. He never cared about the Canadian border Edited February 4 by CdnFox Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Trump was not yet thge president in December. 'He got a Canada that has made knee jerk reactions. This is not the first time we have tried to bocyott American goods. Wrong, Trump played Trudeau like a fiddle. Trump bullied and he wonn. If you think this is the last time, you are dreaming. Until Trudeau is gone, we will suffer his wrath. He hates Trudeau, not Canada. The liberals have lost He wasn't president, but you may recall he was saying the tariffs would be implemented on Day one. That's when Canada responded. Glad to help you keep up. I know things happen too fast for you. Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: We have already saved them from the undemocratic mentally ill. I assume your discharge was not honourable. my Certificate of Service reads ; "On behalf of the Government of Canada and the Canadian Forces I thank you for your loyal and devoted service to our country" signed ; General R. J. Hillier, Chief of the Defence Staff Quote
ExFlyer Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 hours ago, I am Groot said: Trump pretty much dissed all other democratic world leaders he dealt with. The only ones he respects are the tough-guy dictators because he longs to be one of them. Well, he only chose Mexico and Canada to impose tariffs. He realizes that if he did that to European countries, he would lose . Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
SpankyMcFarland Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Just now, ExFlyer said: Show me a retailer of good that has not imports from China, India, Thailand, Vietnam etc. Walmart is but only one retailer buying goods form the cheapest supplier. In Walmart I see a lot more stuff from China than from all those other countries combined and I look for it. I’ve noticed some diversity in the origin of the clothing, including Vietnam, Bangladesh and Nicaragua, but that’s about it. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Well, he only chose Mexico and Canada to impose tariffs. He realizes that if he did that to European countries, he would lose . But he didn't impose tariffs. And you're forgetting about china which is still up in the air Quote
ExFlyer Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Yes, he got a little something although it wasn't that much.. SO FAR. I've said since the beginning whatever trump is claiming his big problem is never is the case. He always wants something else. People are acting like this is over. Like this is done and yesterday's news. He has announced that his people will be meeting with Mexico and Canada and in both cases the vastly larger number of people he named are trade people not drug enforcement people. Over the next 30 days he's going to be going after what he really wants. And that wasn't some cheesy concessions for the border and naming someone The fentanyl czar. But now everyone's breathing a sigh of relief and the relaxed after the tensions so now if he says well we're going to go ahead with the tariffs it was only a 30-day pause it will throw everyone into panic again. That will make his negotiations much easier. People are declaring victory while trump is still doing this warm-ups. He never cared about the Canadian border He got what he wanted. He now knows how much of a **** Trudeau is. Like I said earlier, the Mexican pres spoke for the country. Here we have provincial presidents that seem to think they can take on Trump by themselves. No unity, we will lose piecemeal. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ExFlyer Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: He wasn't president, but you may recall he was saying the tariffs would be implemented on Day one. That's when Canada responded. Glad to help you keep up. I know things happen too fast for you. Canada did not respond until a couple days after he said it would happen 1 Feb and then made a call on the day of implementation. We babbled but could not even get our act together as a nation. We have premiers making or tying to make individual deals by going to Washington. We will lose. It is you that needs to keep up LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
CdnFox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Just now, ExFlyer said: He got what he wanted. I don't think he's even started to get what he wanted. I think he looks at what he's gotten as a free bonus. I don't think he really cares about it at all. I think you and others are grossly grossly overestimating how much he cared about the border. Especially the Canadian border. I don't think he gave a Flying Fig about it. This was all theater and positioning to create a favorable environment for him to get what he really wants 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: He now knows how much of a **** Trudeau is. In what way, Trudeau has behaved exactly as trump wanted him to from all appearances. He's never thought well of Trudeau in the slightest 2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Like I said earlier, the Mexican pres spoke for the country. Here we have provincial presidents that seem to think they can take on Trump by themselves. No unity, we will lose piecemeal. That is a direct result of the choices the voters made in the last election. By that time every single person in Canada should have known that Trudeau was a failure and a terrible leader. But despite the fact that more people voted for conservatives than the liberals the liberals got enough support and key areas to take power. Then the NDP decided to keep them alive at all costs until sing got his pension And this is the result. It's literally what people voted for. You wanted corrupted incompetent? Well you got it Vote woke go broke. People need to learn. 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 24 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Don’t you mean China-led? Trudeau is an admirer of the basic dictatorship. We got a glimpse of his kind of Post-National utopia when bank accounts were frozen. before Trump ; "Canada is a White Supremacist Settler Colonial Abomination guilty of Genocide by the UN definition !" enter Trump ; "come all you bold Canadians, rally round the Colours !" MAGA FTW 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: In Walmart I see a lot more stuff from China than from all those other countries combined and I look for it. I’ve noticed some diversity in the origin of the clothing, including Vietnam, Bangladesh and Nicaragua, but that’s about it. Point is, all retailers, be it Walmart, the Bay, Dollar stores or even Joe Fresh in grocery stores buy from the cheapest manufacturer or seller and almost all the time it is off shore. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ExFlyer Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, CdnFox said: But he didn't impose tariffs. And you're forgetting about china which is still up in the air Yeah but the threat was enough for Canadians to go into panic. Our stocks and dollar went down, as did others but ours never recovered like the others. He imposed an additional tariff on China. They are taking him to international court for it. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
CdnFox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Yeah but the threat was enough for Canadians to go into panic. Our stocks and dollar went down, as did others but ours never recovered like the others. And that was his intent. Like I said his primary negotiating tactics seems to be kicking over all the tables and creating confusion to put people off their game and be uncomfortable when they sit down to negotiate. And remember we still have the threat of tariffs over our head, this is the 30-day pause Quote He imposed an additional tariff on China. They are taking him to international court for it. Good luck with that 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: Trudeau looks like a weak fool on the international stage: fake feminist rainbow sock puppet of Davos. He couldn’t reach out to a hurting population during outdated Covid restrictions and imposed martial law and froze the bank accounts of protesters. He has shamed Canada and created an endless identity politics pay-out welfare scheme for Indigenous and other groups designated as victims and superior humans. He has compromised free speech and meritocracy through the politicization of our courts and government bought mainstream media. He and the Liberal-NDP have squandered our once strong financial position by overspending, buying votes, and over regulating our resource sector. The carbon tax has increased cost of living. Mass immigration has cut our housing supply and raised home costs, not to mention stretched our social services and social cohesion. The hard drug use, government-assisted hard drug injection sites and permissive MAID are just icing on the low birth rate, rising crime, shrinking middle class cake. and now Donald Trump is saving Canada from all that lunacy by exposing the price of Canada cutting its own throat for a far left wing ideology imported by the Democrats mind you, this wasn't even Trump's idea Trump only wanted to go after China & Mexico it was Trump's adviser Peter Navarro who said "we need to take Canada to task as well" you're never going to get Canada to do anything by asking nicely everybody knows, not just America, all of NATO knows Edited February 4 by Dougie93 Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 27 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: He got what he wanted. He now knows how much of a **** Trudeau is. Like I said earlier, the Mexican pres spoke for the country. Here we have provincial presidents that seem to think they can take on Trump by themselves. No unity, we will lose piecemeal. The country spoke as one, except for the MAGA traitor in Alberta. Trudeau dressed her down spectacularly too. Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Chrissy1979 said: The country spoke as one, except for the MAGA traitor in Alberta. Trudeau dressed her down spectacularly too. exactly the opposite Trudeau said that the GoC would not do anything without consulting the Premiers Canada is not going to get out ahead of the Provinces there will be no export tariffs on Canadian energy that was all for Alberta 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 3 hours ago, I am Groot said: I understand the nationalistic pride in having big world-class banks. But looked at in an unemotional way, we'd be way better off without them. Well U.S banks are already here in a limited capacity. Opening up the banking sector to other countries would probably be good IF they adhered to our banking regulations. Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Barquentine said: Well U.S banks are already here in a limited capacity. Opening up the banking sector to other countries would probably be good IF they adhered to our banking regulations. none can operate here without adhering to the regulations but the actual barrier is that the five Canadian banks are the most powerful banking cartel in the world Canada is in fact the world banking superpower Quote
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