Canada, Mexico must find creative way to multiply the stupidity tariffs to target the states that elected the romon multiple times

[Black Dog]

2 hours ago, Five of swords said:

I know exactly how they work.and no...it would have zero impact on me unless I am buying Canadian goods while in the usa. Which I would not need to do

The usa makes more gas and food than the natives consume, bro. If the usa wanted to pay 1$ per gallon on gas they could simply lift sanctions on Iran lol. Canada doesn't matter.

You are truly one dumb motherf*cker but that's kind of a prerequisite for being a Nazi so...

[Aristides]

58 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Fact check false. Individuals cannot just smuggle guns into Canada lol.

Who’s stopping them? No one in the US checks you on the way out.

[Five of swords]

17 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Who’s stopping them? No one in the US checks you on the way out.

Agents at the canada border will search your car

25 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

You are truly one dumb motherf*cker but that's kind of a prerequisite for being a Nazi so...

Yet you have nothing to offer to suggest that I am even incorrect...much less about my iq

[Five of swords]

25 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

You are truly one dumb motherf*cker but that's kind of a prerequisite for being a Nazi so...

By the way...Werner Heisenberg who was the father of quantum physics was a 'nazi'

[Black Dog]

1 minute ago, Five of swords said:

Yet you have nothing to offer to suggest that I am even incorrect...much less about my iq

Where to start? For starters you don't seem to understand the nature of Canadian oil imports to the U.S. and the reason  for them. Nor do you grasp the extent to which the U.S. is dependent on its trade partners for other goods that it cannot or will not produce domestically.

[Aristides]

6 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Agents at the canada border will search your car

 

No one stops you on the way out of the US except Canadian customs so why should we be stopping people leaving Canada? Your border is your responsibility, not ours.

[Five of swords]

Just now, Black Dog said:

Where to start? For starters you don't seem to understand the nature of Canadian oil imports to the U.S. and the reason  for them. Nor do you grasp the extent to which the U.S. is dependent on its trade partners for other goods that it cannot or will not produce domestically.

So still nothing, just with more words.

[Black Dog]

Just now, Five of swords said:

So still nothing, just with more words.

Yeah I know you're probably more used to communicating in hand gestures and grunts.

[Five of swords]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

No one stops you on the way out of the US except Canadian customs so why should we be stopping people leaving Canada? Your border is your responsibility, not ours.

So you have never driven to Canada from the usa. I don't know why you are claiming to know anything when you clearly do not.

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

No. The borders are a law enforcement issue. Local, state and federal can enforce them. But what I'm talking about is our blue states not enforcing broken windows. Do you know what the broken windows theory is?

There is no one on your borders except your customs and border people and they are there to keep people and things out, not in.

[Five of swords]

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Yeah I know you're probably more used to communicating in hand gestures and grunts.

You are just grunting. You are just less efficient with time in your grunting than an ape would be. 

[Black Dog]

Just now, Five of swords said:

You are just grunting. You are just less efficient with time in your grunting than an ape would be. 

Bad enough you have to ape a failed ideology, you can't even come up with an original comeback.

[Aristides]

Just now, Five of swords said:

So you have never driven to Canada from the usa. I don't know why you are claiming to know anything when you clearly do not.

Jesus Christ, I had a property in the US and crossed it weekly, I live ten minutes from a crossing and have had NEXUS since it was introduced.

[Five of swords]

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Jesus Christ, I had a property in the US and crossed it weekly, I live ten minutes from a crossing and have had NEXUS since it was introduced.

So do you smuggle guns into canada?

[gatomontes99]

4 minutes ago, Aristides said:

There is no one on your borders except your customs and border people and they are there to keep people and things out, not in.

Well, it is true we don't keep people from leaving. That would be prison.

[Aristides]

Just now, gatomontes99 said:

Well, it is true we don't keep people from leaving. That would be prison.

So why should we be checking what leaves Canada.

At least 80% of Americans are clueless when it comes to their northern border.

[Hodad]

4 hours ago, Aristides said:

You are being a cringing wimp. You let someone like Trump insult and threaten us and are afraid to utter a peep in your own defence.

Subs are gonna sub.

[Five of swords]

6 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Jesus Christ, I had a property in the US and crossed it weekly, I live ten minutes from a crossing and have had NEXUS since it was introduced.

Every time I have driven to Canada they searched my car. And I don't know how to buy a gun in the usa without being a US citizen...I do not think it is legal...

 

Maybe they search us citizens more than Canadians with a nexus. Quite possible. But no...you should not be flippant about the legal and logistic issue around smuggling weapons into canada. You would be breaking laws and you would need a plan around it.

[myata]

Mafia bosses are routinely elected in third world politics. Big buck rules and flaunts it at whim. These are facts. They won't be removed from the reality by any whining. U.S. politics is third world because this is what it looks, does and is.

[Aristides]

17 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Every time I have driven to Canada they searched my car. And I don't know how to buy a gun in the usa without being a US citizen...I do not think it is legal...

 

Maybe they search us citizens more than Canadians with a nexus. Quite possible. But no...you should not be flippant about the legal and logistic issue around smuggling weapons into canada. You would be breaking laws and you would need a plan around it.

Why? Most people who cross are not searched by either side. Americans have easy access to guns and some of them make big bucks buying them and smuggling them across the border and selling them to Canadian gang bangers. Almost all of the hand gun shootings in Canada are committed with illegally obtained weapons from the US. This isn't made up bullshit from the likes of Trump about fentanyl, it's a fact. Mexico is in the process of suing US gun manufacturers for knowingly selling them to smugglers. US courts have allowed the suit. And if they win, expect Canada to be right behind.

Edited January 22 by Aristides

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

It is also in Canada's best interest to not lose its largest trading partner. We can afford to lose you, can you afford to lose us?

 

You really can't. We really can't either, we'd have to develop closer ties to russia and china as well as europe.  That's also not in your interest. 

But a lot of the strategic materials the US uses is in Canada.  The other sources are china and russia and hostile countries.  And you have no idea how much net power we provide. And if oil was cut off your gas prices would shoot up nicely.

Make no mistake, it would be very bad for us but it would be pretty horrible for you as well.  And if you think inflation was ba under biden  you won't have seen anything yet. 

If you were under the impression that making an enemy of canada would have no impact, you really need to think again. Trump will leave behind a complete disaster of an economy if that happens no matter what happens to us. 

[Five of swords]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Why? Most people who cross are not searched by either side. Americans have easy access to guns and some of them make big bucks buying them and smuggling them across the border and selling them to Canadian gang bangers. Almost all of the hand gun shootings in Canada are committed with illegally obtained weapons from the US. This isn't made up bullshit from the likes of Trump about fentanyl, it's a fact. Mexico is in the process of suing US gun manufacturers for knowingly selling them to smugglers. US courts have allowed the suit. And if they win, expect Canada to be right behind.

Maybe they only search the cars of white people?

[herbie]

Try to understand this simple example,. back around 2003 the "Softwood Lumber" tariff made it vost YOU )as an Amrican) pay an average of $6000 extra to build a typical wood frame house. The duty (a tariff) was 15% at that time.

So if 25% tariffs go on, you will be paying $6000 + $4000 = $10,000 figured  in 2003 dollars.
We don't pay. YOU the consumer pays. It is a TAX.

I was living with the CFO of a big lumber company at the time. We talked about how they should be using the American $$ at the time, and she put that to the owners. They made millions eatra trading those American dollars, they profited and she got a fat raise. The American consumer got hosed for $6000

Now try to explain just how refineries paying 25% more for oil, utitlities paying 25% more for hydro, your car dealer paying 25% more for a Silverado, Pacifica, RAV4, or Civic is gonna make things better or cheaper for you.

[Aristides]

8 hours ago, ironstone said:

Our current government allows protesters to chant 'death to Canada' on our own streets without fear of repercussion. They can freely insult and threaten us because they know the government is afraid to push back.

I don't like it either but I thought you Trumpsters were about free speech.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

I don't like it either but I thought you Trumpsters were about free speech.

Not hate speech. Its weird how you stalinists think calling a man who dresses like a woman a man is 'hate speech" but don't believe "canada must be destroyed" isn't somehow hate speech.

They're making calls for actual criminal activity. That's hate speech even by the right's definition.  But if jordan peterson suggests we shoudn't be forced to call biological men 'women' or someone suggests the covid vaccine isn't safe, then that person should burn in hell and the police must be dispatched immediately