A Cult of Hate

Radiorum · January 11

9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Did you learn the accusation in a mirror

And my guess is that you don't even see that that is exactly what you are doing.

I am concerned about the hate that Trump spreads. Now, try and stay focused on that.

2 minutes ago, User said:

You started this thread with quotes from forums, and now you balk at the same level of evidence of what leftists post on social media.

I have seen no evidence of left-wing hate presented.

But back to my main point - Trump has torn the country apart.

User · January 11

8 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I have seen no evidence of left-wing hate presented.

OK Sergeant Schultz

9 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

But back to my main point - Trump has torn the country apart.

This started long before Trump, arguably it was Obama and back to 2013 when he and the liberals stoked the racism and have not stopped playing the race game since then.

CdnFox · January 11

2 hours ago, Radiorum said:

I would say that the above is not true.

You might say the sun rises in the west but you'd be wrong then too

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Furthermore,

I think the online adoration of Luigi Mangione (the CEO shooter) is a very different animal than what we see in MAGA.

What a load of nonsense. And your excuses that followed were pathetic. He was adored even before he was identified. People were praising the shooting like crazy before he was caught. And that's because he killed a medical insurance exec.

It is EXACTLY the same thing. "we don't like medical executives so when bad things happen to them we say he had it coming". "we don't like left wing California or it's left wing governer so when bad things happen to them they had it coming."

It is precisely the same in both cases. People are willing to accept unacceptable events as long as they happen to people they don't like.

In fact we saw it with trump when he got shot. How many on the left were thrilled that someone tried to kill him and only angry at the fact that he missed. We saw that sentiment everywhere including on this forum.

So you don't need to look around the web, you can find that sentiment right here. Black dog for example was ecstatic when trump was shot and also believe that the medical guy should deserved it.

And once again you expose your own personal hypocrisy. It's clearly exactly the same thing but in your mind when the left wings does it it's perfectly acceptable and understandable but when the right wing does it it's terrible and evil.

Spare me your crocodile tears. At least I'm consistent, I say it's bad when both do it. You're just a hypocrite

Radiorum · January 11

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

"THERE IS A HUGE PROBLEM WITH UNFATHOMABLE LEFTIST HATE ON THIS SITE!!!!"

That's funny, because I have pegged you as one of the most hateful persons on this site.

Radiorum · January 11

24 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

He was adored even before he was identified.

By whom? there's no evidence it was the left.

30 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I say it's bad when both do it.

You clearly did not read my post carefully enough.

eyeball · January 11

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Why? You're not demanding answers from people who did the cheering here.

I assume your middle name really is 'hypocrisy'?

I understand why they cheered. My middle name is Inevitability.

In case you hadn't noticed world order is breaking down, on all levels, but it starts at the top.

CdnFox · January 11

49 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

By whom? there's no evidence it was the left.

Posters here who are known to be on the left for example. So yes there is evidence. I already mentioned black dog and there were others as well. And many communities around the Net or read it or any of the other popular social media sites. If you can find no evidence that the left felt that way then I'm afraid your research skills could best be described as subpar if we're being kind

51 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

You clearly did not read my post carefully enough.

I clearly read the part where you tried to excuse the left as being acceptable for behaving this way and the right for not being acceptable for being this way. It's possible you tried to walk it back after that and I didn't read it but it really isn't relevant.

CdnFox · January 11

14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I understand why they cheered. My middle name is Inevitability.

as in 'inevitably you show your true colours and cheer the deaths of people you personally don't like and pretend it's ok?"

Yeah we knew that. I remember the israel threads.

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In case you hadn't noticed world order is breaking down, on all levels, but it starts at the top.

The "world order" is always in a state of flux. But it hardly is relevant to the issue at hand. Nice attempt at distraction tho

The world order does not determine whether or not people cheer when others suffer misfortune because they dislike them be it the california situation or the trump assassination attempt or the medical exec. That's a cultural thing. What's happening is that more and more starting the the early 2000's and growing steadily worse there is an utter intolerance of others who are different, especially politically.

It started with the culture war in the states and then 'cancel culture' and 'intersectional coalitions' and considering half the population to be the 'basket of deplorables' etc etc, where basically anyone who disagreed was dehumanized so that their points could be dismissed without consideration. In canada it was those who aren't vaxxed are 'bigots and misogynists' and wastes of space who should not be tolerated etc.

And while it started with the left, the right has now picked up on it too.

That's what's lead to this. A basic and fundamental lack of shared respect for other people's beliefs and opinions. Coupled with tribalism to the point where people defend their tribal talking points to the death.

eyeball · January 11

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

as in 'inevitably you show your true colours and cheer the deaths of people you personally don't like and pretend it's ok?"

Yeah we knew that. I remember the israel threads.

And I remember you in the Gaza threads.

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The "world order" is always in a state of flux.

Flux? 🤣

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But it hardly is relevant to the issue at hand. Nice attempt at distraction tho

You can flux off too.

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The world order does not determine blah blah blah

Maybe you should go read up on what happened during experiments on rats in a variety of overpopulated conditions and maybe it'll come to you.

Social order is going the same way as world order and for the very same reason.

It's been inevitable and we've known it for decades.

Edited January 11 by eyeball

CdnFox · January 11

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

And I remember you in the Gaza threads.

Same threads. That's where i said terrorist attacks are bad and you said they're justified because 1948.

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Flux

No potty jokes pls

(I'm giving you credt that was a play on words and you actually know what flux means)

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You can flux off too.

awww muffin You got your nose rubbed in the truth and now you big mad.

9 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Maybe you should go read up on what happened during experiments on rats in a variety of overpopulated conditions and maybe it'll come to you.

This is canada. and you ARE our rat experiment

WestCanMan · January 12

3 hours ago, Radiorum said:

And my guess is that you don't even see that that is exactly what you are doing.

My guess is that you know you're doing it, and you don't care that you get busted.

The people who are dumb enough believe liars like you can't be led to reason.

eyeball · January 12

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sure because a protest and a wildfire are pretty much the same thing.

Sure, except for a difference of about $148 billion in damages.

4 hours ago, ironstone said:

Damages caused by the 2020 Black Lives Matter protests were estimated to cost $2 billion,

Like I said, chump change compared to a $150 billion wildfire.

WestCanMan · January 12

2 hours ago, Radiorum said:

That's funny, because I have pegged you as one of the most hateful persons on this site.

It's funny that you can't even acknowledge DUI's abhorrent, disgusting hate when he openly admits to it, and you want to pretend that other people are as bad as he is based on your own hunch.

I'll tell you something for nothin' I do hate weasels like you. I really hate you. And it has nothing to do with what your pronouns are, or your religion, or the colour of your skin - there's a good chance that you're a white atheist like me (bt I know you're not Christian) - I hate you because you're an amoral liar.

I still don't wish misfortune on you though, like DUI would.

eyeball · January 12

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Same threads. That's where i said terrorist attacks are bad and you said they're justified because 1948.

No, I said they were inevitable because of 1948.

You sure are lousy at paying attention.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

(I'm giving you credt that was a play on words and you actually know what flux means)

Of course I know what it means - you're as lousy at playing with words as anything else you do around here.

WestCanMan · January 12

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, I said they were inevitable because of 1948.

No they're not.

There were ten times as many Sikhs and Hindus forced out of the Pakistan area in 1947 as there were Palestinians in 1948. There were about 1,500 times as many Sikhs and Hindus forced out of the Pakistan area in 1947 as there were Palestinians in 1948. They haven't been trying to commit genocide against Pakistan ever since that date.

And to be honest, the Sikhs and Hundus that were forced out weren't mostly newcomers, like the Palestinians were. Their ancestors were mainly there from time immemorial. Most of the Arabs in "Palestine" had only arrived there with one or two generations, after the "Zionists" had started making the region liveable again.

eyeball · January 12

18 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Most of the Arabs in "Palestine" had only arrived there with one or two generations, after the "Zionists" had started making the region liveable again.

So it was Arabs who invaded Israel not the other way around. Your perspective on history is always fascinating to behold.

CdnFox · January 12

54 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Sure, except for a difference of about $148 billion in damages.

yes, the only difference between a riot and a forest fire is the price tag 🙄

47 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, I said they were inevitable because of 1948.

Which makes them understandable in your mind. Same diff. "of course it happened because 1948".

Which is just an excuse for terrorists. People today make their own choices. 1948 doesn't choose for them

WestCanMan · January 12

12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So it was Arabs who invaded Israel not the other way around.

Wrong. I never said that at all, dummy.

I said that Jews came there and started making that area liveable, but I didn't say that it was called Israel at that time. It was Ottoman and then British-controlled "Palestine"at that time.

Read what Mark Twain and others said about pre-1880 Israel/Palestine. It was desolate. It was Jews who turned that area back into something worth fighting for. There were not a bunch of Palestinians there with thriving communities. The population of Beersheba was under 2,000 people in the 1800s. It's over 200K now. The population of Jerusalem was only 8,000 in 1800. 15,000 in 1860. Google: "In 1922, the British counted 33,971 Jews and 28,112 Palestinians in the city. By the late 1940s, the city's population stood at approximately 97,000 Jews and 61,000 Palestinians." There are a million people in Jerusalem now. Jaffa and Haifa had 25K people between them in 1860, and Gaza City was less than 50K people.

Don't go thinking that what's known as Israel now used to be occupied by a bunch of Palestinians who were there since the 1500s or 1800s. There were barely any Palestinians in what's considered Israel now. The entire population of ALL Palestine in 1890 was 500K, but most of them were close to the Mediterranean, in what's currently Gaza. Look at a map of any country by the ocean, that's where the population is. The muslims who were in the Israeli region in 1946 are people who started to migrate there after Jews started restoring the area, and there are still over 2M Arabs there now. Literally 4x the entire population of ALL Palestine in 1890, and I'm just talking about 2M in Israel alone.

Keep in mind that there was never a sovereign nation called Palestine. The last time that area wasn't part of one empire or another the Philistines just controlled what's now Gaza, but it extended a bit further north. The area that's called Israel now was Israel/Judea before the Romans conquered that area.

WestCanMan · January 12

@eyeball I asked Chat GPT to sum up Twain's writings about Israel:

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What did Mark Twain say about his visit to Israel

ChatGPT said:

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Mark Twain visited the Holy Land (now Israel) in 1867, and his observations during the trip were published in The Innocents Abroad, a travelogue recounting his experiences in Europe and the Middle East. Twain's visit to the region was marked by a mix of wonder, skepticism, and humor. His impressions of Israel, which was then part of the Ottoman Empire, were often critical and satirical.

Here’s a famous excerpt from The Innocents Abroad where Twain comments on his visit to the area that is now Israel:

“It is a desolate country, a silent, mournful expanse... a land of desolation and emptiness... There was not a solitary village throughout its whole extent — not for thirty miles in either direction. One may ride 10 or 12 hours through this desolate country and not see a living thing. ... Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies.”

Twain was struck by the contrast between the historical and biblical significance of the region and the reality of what he saw: a largely barren, underdeveloped land. His words reflect the popular 19th-century European view of the Holy Land as a neglected, ruined place. Of course, this was before the waves of Jewish immigration that began later in the 19th and early 20th centuries and led to the transformation of the region.

It's important to note that Twain's remarks were often tongue-in-cheek, and his tone, while critical, was also deeply sarcastic and exaggerated for comedic effect.

Take all of that for what it's worth: ChatGPT could come from a microchip in Netanyahu's ass for all I know.

ironstone · January 12

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Like I said, chump change compared to a $150 billion wildfire.

Perhaps if they did manage the forests better or didn't cut the LA fire department budget or spend too much time and effort on DEI and other nonsense?

eyeball · January 12

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

Perhaps if they did manage the forests better or didn't cut the LA fire department budget or spend too much time and effort on DEI and other nonsense?

Yeah, they didn't have to kill George Floyd either. Too bad there's always an excuse for not doing the right thing eh?

Notice it's been this way for decades now?

CdnFox · January 12

49 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yeah, they didn't have to kill George Floyd either. Too bad there's always an excuse for not doing the right thing eh?

Notice it's been this way for decades now?

They?

So you feel that the police and the gov't planned specifically to kill floyd? That's what you're suggesting.

George floyd was not a planned event.

Not properly cleaning the forest is a decision. That is policy, not an accident or the like. It's not like the forests were jacked up on fenynal.

So comparing the two is nuts.

eyeball · January 12

57 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So comparing the two is nuts.

Stop doing it then.

CdnFox · January 12

35 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Stop doing it then.

Ahhh - i see you found your mirror! that's great, you get so much use out of it Just no more yelling at it, the neighbors get upset

Edited January 12 by CdnFox

Nationalist · January 12

17 hours ago, Radiorum said:

That's funny, because I have pegged you as one of the most hateful persons on this site.

Oh no!

@WestCanMan how will you deal with life now that @Radiorum pegged you? OMG! Life will never be the same! You've been pegged!

Errr... @Radiorum...there is a price for selling your soul to hatred and progressive ideologies. The price while living is, you become destructive and work to inflict pain and suffering on yourself, your family and society. You also become a laughable twit.

The price in death is...no afterlife. A true death.

Have a warm and fuzzy day...