Peterson interview with Poilievre reveals the dire condition of Canada and what PP will do about it.

[I am Groot]

4 hours ago, Black Dog said:

I love this dude saying he grew up in a homogeneous bubble and then pretending his was a universal experience.

Almost all of Canada was a homogenous bubble. It's not like I grew up in a rural area. I grew up in Montreal and Ottawa.

[taxme]

On 1/2/2025 at 8:20 PM, DUI_Offender said:

The fact that PP is even agreeing to be interviewed with that traitor, is yet another sign that he is not fit to be PM.

Are you still drinking heavy because it sure looks like it. Your replies appear to be the kind of reply that would only come from a drunken alcoholic, DUI offender. Just saying. 😛😁

[taxme]

On 1/2/2025 at 8:20 PM, DUI_Offender said:

The fact that PP is even agreeing to be interviewed with that traitor, is yet another sign that he is not fit to be PM.

You are just another traitor to this country, comrade. 👎

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36 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Of the total population of canada, 1 percent is a significant portion.

No, it is not. It was less than 1% in 1971 (0.6% to be exact). Stop embarrassing yourself. 

Edited January 4 by DUI_Offender

[taxme]

On 1/2/2025 at 9:34 PM, DUI_Offender said:

I don't blame you for sticking up for Jordan Peterson. Both of you are compromised by Russia.

I guess that i cannot blame you for being a commie troll stooge because you have been brainwashed by our present day Marxist dictator in Ottawa. Are you trying to tell us all here that the Marxist dictator in Ottawa is a much better PM for Canada then Poilievre could ever be?  

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6 minutes ago, taxme said:

I guess that i cannot blame you for being a commie troll stooge because you have been brainwashed by our present day Marxist dictator in Ottawa. Are you trying to tell us all here that the Marxist dictator in Ottawa is a much better PM for Canada then Poilievre could ever be?  

Yes.

Edited January 4 by DUI_Offender

[Black Dog]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Almost all of Canada was a homogenous bubble. It's not like I grew up in a rural area. I grew up in Montreal and Ottawa.

That doesn't mean your experience with racism was universal. I doubt those. people who were Indigenous, Asian, Black etc who were around back then would tell the same story.

And as I pointed out to DumbFux, Canada's immigration policies were quite explicitly racist for the first half of the country's existence, which kinda undermine's PP's point about racism not really being a thing in the past. 

 

Edited January 4 by Black Dog

[Michael Hardner]

31 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

 

And as I pointed out to DumbFux, Canada's immigration policies were quite explicitly racist for the first half of the country's existence, which kinda undermine's PP's point about racism not really being a thing in the past. 

 

And those of us who were alive when multiculturalism was introduced. Can remember a time when you could openly say that races shouldn't mix.  People were quoted in the newspapers saying it. 

Even in Liberal Canada segregation was an understandable configuration for groups that had problems with each other.  Of course some of them got government money, poor things. 

This is what's wrong with young people who grew up watching television getting into politics.

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9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

And those of us who were alive when multiculturalism was introduced. Can remember a time when you could openly say that races shouldn't mix.  People were quoted in the newspapers saying it. 

Even in Liberal Canada segregation was an understandable configuration for groups that had problems with each other.  Of course some of them got government money, poor things. 

This is what's wrong with young people who grew up watching television getting into politics.

I was not alive to experience it, but there was a time when Jews were not permitted to own cabins on the east side of Lake Winnipeg. In fact, Jews were not allowed to live in the wealthy suburb of Tuxedo until the 1960s. It was pretty much reserved for WASP's. 

[CdnFox]

13 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

I was not alive to experience it, but there was a time when Jews were not permitted to own cabins on the east side of Lake Winnipeg. In fact, Jews were not allowed to live in the wealthy suburb of Tuxedo until the 1960s. It was pretty much reserved for WASP's. 

And was that 2014?

In fact was it 2010?  2000? 1980?  1950? No? Earlier than that?

So it sure wasn't a problem in canada when trudeau took over

Because 2015 is when Trudeau took over and things have certainly got a hell of a lot worse since then.

Now jews are being attacked in the streets, their schools shot up, massive protests calling for their death, there are union groups and teachers advocating for the destruction of israel....  so if we have to go back 100 years to find something similar then you're kind of proving the point they were making. 

We didn't have a big anti semite problem in canada.  Now we do. 

THe culture wars and race hatred we see today came up from the states and was spread by the liberals

[Michael Hardner]

26 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

I was not alive to experience it, but there was a time when Jews were not permitted to own cabins on the east side of Lake Winnipeg. In fact, Jews were not allowed to live in the wealthy suburb of Tuxedo until the 1960s. It was pretty much reserved for WASP's. 

How about Magdur furs being Prosecuted for Opening on Sunday?  The Lord's Day?

And he was closed on shabbas?

Vilified by the papers like the fur dealer in Winnipeg who made the front page for under reporting on his taxes?

Lots of little examples and that's just Jews.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

How about Magdur furs being Prosecuted for Opening on Sunday?  The Lord's Day?

And he was closed on shabbas?

Vilified by the papers like the fur dealer in Winnipeg who made the front page for under reporting on his taxes?

Lots of little examples and that's just Jews.

Just going to gloss over the fact that you lied about what I said are you?

No wonder nobody respects you on this board. Or more accurately the people that do are the ones that are the least respectable on this board

[Michael Hardner]

Hate crimes against Muslims and Jews going up... Hmmmm...

How about against LGBTQ?  Is Poilievre ever going to say something about that?

Edited January 5 by Michael Hardner

[CdnFox]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

Hate crimes against Muslims and Jews going up... Hmmmm...

How about against LGBTQ?  Is Poilievre ever going to say something about that?

No need. Trudeau passed those laws protecting trans so everything's solved now.  That definitely didn't increase the divisions and violence. 

[Michael Hardner]

25 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

We didn't have a big anti semite problem in canada.  Now we do. 

 

This is fact, and we know why.

These two little pukes talking like they're intellectual Wunderkinds really p!ss me off, because there's now practically nothing in Poilievres way to power and instead of talking about our actual problems, like the Trump Tax, unity and what the new environment plan will be... they're having a make-believe tea party.

 

Edited January 5 by Michael Hardner

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3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And was that 2014?

In fact was it 2010?  2000? 1980?  1950? No? Earlier than that?

So it sure wasn't a problem in canada when trudeau took over

Because 2015 is when Trudeau took over and things have certainly got a hell of a lot worse since then.

Now jews are being attacked in the streets, their schools shot up, massive protests calling for their death, there are union groups and teachers advocating for the destruction of israel....  so if we have to go back 100 years to find something similar then you're kind of proving the point they were making. 

We didn't have a big anti semite problem in canada.  Now we do. 

THe culture wars and race hatred we see today came up from the states and was spread by the liberals

Antisemitism has ebbed and flowed in Canada for over a century. It is dramatically up due to the War with Hamas during the past 15 months, nothing to do with Trudeau.

 

Edited January 5 by DUI_Offender

[eyeball]

25 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

We didn't have a big anti semite problem in canada.  Now we do.

It's nothing at all compared to when Canada sent Jewish refugees back to Hitler. Then we said go kick Palestinians out of their territory and carve one out for yourselves. BTW here's how it's done and if anyone asks.....

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

This is fact, and we know why.

Yes we do know why. And the why is because the liberals chose to import identity politics and culture wars from the united states in an effort to create the same sort of divisions and coalitions that more effective for Obama during his time

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These two little pukes talking like they're intellectual Wunderkinds really p!ss me off,

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because there's now practically nothing in Poilievres way to power and instead of talking about our actual problems, like the Trump Tax, unity and what the new environment plan will be... they're having a make-believe tea party.

That's not what's pissing you off. The reality is they did talk about our very real problems. Housing is a very real problem. Money and investment leaving Canada for other places is a very real problem. Everything else they discussed was a real problem as well.

And you know perfectly well that trump will be in on January 20th and there is absolutely no chance of an election happening before then so the tariff issue will already have played out long before Poilievre gets a chance at the helm. Like it or not that's going to be a liberal issue. So he can't comment on what will happen after that until he sees how they handle it.

So I have a difficult time believing that's really what's upsetting you as you watch this. I would venture that what's upsetting you is you know that if he does what he says and is able to address issues in the manner he is suggesting that it will probably be the death now of the left wing political apparatus in Canada for quite some time. And I understand why that would concern you.

But let's not pretend that the issues he raised weren't serious issues. People not being able to afford housing or food is a serious issue. Our declining quality of life based on GDP per capita is a brutally serious issue. Our unsustainable deficits are massive issues.

[User]

17 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

How about against LGBTQ?  Is Poilievre ever going to say something about that?

I would say that you provided a chart of "reported" hate crimes, not one of people actually found guilty of them. 

I would also add that over that time period Canada has increased criminal statutes to include more gender identity nonsense into the criminal code as well and over that time period this madness has been pushed more onto kids and the public. 

So, how much of that is transgenders reporting hate crimes because people are not playing along enough with their delusions?

How much of that is a dude wearing big fake tits teaching kids like this, complaining about being the target of a hate crime?

[Michael Hardner]

15 minutes ago, User said:

I would say that you provided a chart of "reported" hate crimes, not one of people actually found guilty of them. 

I would also add that over that time period Canada has increased criminal statutes to include more gender identity nonsense into the criminal code as well and over that time period this madness has been pushed more onto kids and the public. 

So, how much of that is transgenders reporting hate crimes because people are not playing along enough with their delusions?

How much of that is a dude wearing big fake tits teaching kids like this, complaining about being the target of a hate crime?

Yeah that dude was a troll. Not a good example.  Seems like he made the whole thing up. 

Anyway, I use charges as a metric. Maybe there's another one with convictions.

[User]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Yeah that dude was a troll. Not a good example.  Seems like he made the whole thing up. 

Anyway, I use charges as a metric. Maybe there's another one with convictions.

The graphic you provided was reports, not charges. 

Do you have one of charges?

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, User said:

The graphic you provided was reports, not charges. 

Do you have one of charges?

No, sorry.

Just reports. I'm satisfied that a spike though should get the attention of public. 

How would the spike in reports mesh with the logic that Trudeau 's. Wokeness has increased racism or intolerance in Canada? 

This is an honest question. I'm not trying to lead you anywhere here..

[User]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

How would the spike in reports mesh with the logic that Trudeau 's. Wokeness has increased racism or intolerance in Canada? 

The spike of reports correlates to his being elected to the PM... and the advancement of more hate crimes legislation and the advancement of more of the transgenderism saying trans women are women... 

It is not a stretch to say that the more you push transgenderism, the more people think they are, the more entitled they think they are to "report" hate crimes when people don't play along. 

 

 

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, User said:

The spike of reports correlates to his being elected to the PM... and the advancement of more hate crimes legislation and the advancement of more of the transgenderism saying trans women are women... 

It is not a stretch to say that the more you push transgenderism, the more people think they are, the more entitled they think they are to "report" hate crimes when people don't play along.

Perhaps. 

I don't see a spike until he's been prime minister for 6 or 7 years though. It's kind of a slow increase until then. 

I also want to add.... 

When there is public scapegoating it ends up in actions against the scapegoated Groups. It's pretty hard to prove causality, but sometimes it's just obvious to me

Anyway.

Anyone can dispute it and for sure it's arguable.

[CdnFox]

39 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Yeah that dude was a troll. Not a good example.  Seems like he made the whole thing up. 

 

And yet he was taken very seriously. You seem to recall if memory serves at the time you suggested that was appropriate. I don't recall you speaking out against this troll while I was happening, did I miss that somewhere?