Peterson interview with Poilievre reveals the dire condition of Canada and what PP will do about it.

[I am Groot]

15 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

The two clowns are in agreement that "racism did not exist in Canada" and it was "only a recent thing under Trudeau." I am literally the same age as PP, and there was definitely racism in Canada when I was growing up. If Peterson and PP are going to lie, at least make it believable. 

 

Like many who are poorly educated, you really don't understand what the word means. It's been so overused, so overhyped that it's come to be essentially meaningless. 

Racism means the belief that one race is inherently superior to another. Not that it's stronger or richer, or acts better or is more sophisticated, but that right down to the DNA, it is superior to others. Virtually no one believes that nor has for a long time.

There is certainly prejudice and bigotry, but those are quite different and have different causes.

[I am Groot]

22 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Seems I'm not alone in pointing this out. A politician that has been compromised by foreign interests, being interviewed by Peterson, who has been compromised by Russia. 

You don't help your case with nonsense like this. The allegation against Peterson is because he agreed to a single interview with a conservative organization called Tenet that did hundreds of such interviews and which, it later emerged, apparently, either deliberately or by being duped, took some money from Russia. 

Going from this to suggest Peterson is 'compromised' by Russia is just laughably silly.

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10 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Like many who are poorly educated, you really don't understand what the word means. It's been so overused, so overhyped that it's come to be essentially meaningless. 

Racism means the belief that one race is inherently superior to another. Not that it's stronger or richer, or acts better or is more sophisticated, but that right down to the DNA, it is superior to others. Virtually no one believes that nor has for a long time.

There is certainly prejudice and bigotry, but those are quite different and have different causes.

Definition of the word "racism."

"prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized."

You certainly are a dingbat. 

[I am Groot]

15 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

This is because you are not from Canada.

There was definitely racism in Canada, about the same as their is now. In fact, racism towards South Asians and Middle Easterners was at it's peak immediately after 9/11.

You're a child. When I was growing up in the 1960s and 1970s there was no one to be racist TO. I had no non-white classmates until two Chinese girls in a college class. I remember a friend and me passing a church back when I was in grade 6/7 and he said that was where his family went to church, that they were Anglicans. I had no idea what that even was. I knew there were protestants and Catholics, but not what the difference was. Religion just didn't matter much to me and I never heard anyone mention it or race in school. Television didn't mention race. The papers didn't either. 

Hard to have racism in largely homogenous communities. In the 1971 census there were only around 30k blacks in all of Canada. There were even fewer Asians, mostly Chinese who kept largely to themselves. Nobody wore funny costumes and no one had an accent. That's the world of then.

Virtually all the races other than whites were imported, and no effort made to integrate them. Needless to say, wildly different cultures did not and do not entirely get along. Resentments arise, and with poor government, grow worse. And we've had very, very, very, VERY poor government that now gives openly preferential treatment to some races. And is proud of doing so!  It tells them they're victims of evil white oppression and tells white people to feel guilt and shame about a past they had nothing to do with (and which they largely lie about anyway). 

Yeah, like that's not going to cause resentment...

Edited January 4 by I am Groot

[I am Groot]

Haven't watched this yet. I'm just not that into the guy. I'll see if I can put it on in the background later when I'm doing something more interesting. Frankly, there's never been a politician I'd want to hear talk for an hour and forty minutes. But good on him for doing it. Doubt Trudeau ever did or would. The thing now has 36 million views on YouTube, apparently, which is fascinating in itself. It suggests a lot of non-Canadians must be watching. Why!? Perhaps they're just that starved for leaders in the West who speak fairly plainly and address the things that concern them.

11 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Definition of the word "racism."

"prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized."

You certainly are a dingbat. 

You are an ignorant little twat. Racism is not a synonym for prejudice no matter what your internet dictionary tells you. But again, as someone almost entirely uneducated you wouldn't know that.

I think many, if not most of the problems in our society today can be traced to the poor quality of our education systems.

Edited January 4 by I am Groot

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5 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

You're a child.

Not a child. However, you are an old man yelling at clouds, probably retirement age. 

5 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

When I was growing up in the 1960s and 1970s there was no one to be racist TO.

Before there was an influx of Asians, there was racism against other groups. Jews, Eastern Europeans, Native Americans, etc. You are just full of BS. 

5 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Hard to have racism in largely homogenous communities.

Tell that to the Jews and Irish, who were often excluded from jobs, and private clubs for being non WASP. Groot, you really need to learn Canadian history, since you are ignorant of it. 

5 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

In the 1971 census there were only around 30k blacks in all of Canada. There were even fewer Asians, mostly Chinese who kept largely to themselves.

Wrong again. Asians outnumbered Blacks by nearly 7 to 1, in 1971. 

• Ethnic origin

  The ethnic breakdown of Canada in 1971 was:

  • British: 44.6% 
     
  • French: 28.7% 
     
  • Other European: 23% 
     
  • Asian: 1.3% 
     
  • Aboriginal: 1.5% 
     
  • Black: 0.2% 
     
  • Other: 0.8% 

5 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Nobody wore funny costumes and no one had an accent. That's the world of then.

Wow. You certainly are a fool.

5 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Virtually all the races other than whites were imported, and no effort made to integrate them.

Only Indigenous people were here, which make up 4.5% of the Canadian population. Every other group of people migrated to Canada. First it was British and French. Then Scottish, Irish, and Welsh. Eventually Germans, Italians, Scandinavians, Dutch, etc. The came Eastern Europeans and Jews. 

Eventually, Chinese, Indians, Muslims, Africans, etc. started coming to Canada in large waves towards the second part of the 20th century. You don;t see racism, since you ARE a racist. 

5 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Needless to say, wildly different cultures did not and do not entirely get along.

That has been going on, since the French and English literally fought wars here 250 years ago.

5 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Resentments arise, and with poor government, grow worse. And we've had very, very, very, VERY poor government that now gives openly preferential treatment to some races.

There is no preferential treatment given to any group, except White northern Europeans in the past.

You are just an old man, and time has passed you by.

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35 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

 

Going from this to suggest Peterson is 'compromised' by Russia is just laughably silly.

 

Why has Jordan Peterson not filed a defamation case against Trudeau and the Government, like he said he was going to in October? It is because he would lose. Trudeau swore under oath, in regards to the Governments findings of Peterson being paid off by Russia. He will never sue, since he knows it to be true. 

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20 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

 

You are an ignorant little twat. Racism is not a synonym for prejudice no matter what your internet dictionary tells you. But again, as someone almost entirely uneducated you wouldn't know that.

I think many, if not most of the problems in our society today can be traced to the poor quality of our education systems.

I am placing you on ignore. You are an old man, and time has passed you by. This is not the early 1970s, when you would spend your nights crying in your room, with Elton John playing in the background, since the high school girls rejected you. It's 2025. 

Edited January 4 by DUI_Offender

[I am Groot]

9 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Not a child. However, you are an old man yelling at clouds, probably retirement age. 

I retired at 52. 🙂

9 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Before there was an influx of Asians, there was racism against other groups. Jews, Eastern Europeans, Native Americans, etc. You are just full of BS. 

There was certainly some prejudice and discrimination. But you're exaggerating. In the everyday world nobody gave a damn if your parents or grandparents were from somewhere in Europe. And I never met anyone with an accent before college. Natives? Yes, but they were still mostly on reserves, then. Certainly none in my world. Jews? Knew a few. Nobody I ever met cared if you were a Catholic, an Anglican or a Jew.

9 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Tell that to the Jews and Irish, who were often excluded from jobs, and private clubs for being non WASP. Groot, you really need to learn Canadian history, since you are ignorant of it. 

Discrimination against the Irish? You have to go back a long way for that, longer than me. Not hire Jews for jobs? Doubt that happened much in my time either. Certainly didn't hurt them economically. They've been thriving for quite some time. And if you think being excluded from private clubs was something more than 0.1% of us cared about you're an even bigger fool than you seem.

 

9 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Wrong again. Asians outnumbered Blacks by nearly 7 to 1, in 1971. 

PHhht. Homogenous, as I said.

By 1971, Canadians of European origin continued to account for 96 percent of the 21.5 million people in the total population. Those of European origin other than British and French remained the dominant element within the “Third Force”, accounting for 85.5 percent of the 5.8 million people who declared a non-British and non-French ethnic origin in the 1971 Census (Table 3). 

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/csj-sjc/jsp-sjp/rp02_8-dr02_8/p4.html

 

9 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Only Indigenous people were here, which make up 4.5% of the Canadian population. Every other group of people migrated to Canada.

Even the "indigenous people" aren't indigenous to this hemisphere. But again, I know that as an uneducated person, you don't really grasp the meaning of words.

9 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

There is no preferential treatment given to any group, except White northern Europeans in the past.

White northern Europeans constituted almost the entirety of the population in the past. There is quite clear and open discrimination today by the government. Why you would even try to lie about it is beyond me.

9 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

You are just an old man, and time has passed you by.

You're just a bitter drunk who never had a time.

15 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

I am placing you on ignore. You are an old man, and time has passed you by. This is not the early 1970s, when you would spend your nights crying in your room, with Elton John playing in the background, since the high school girls rejected you. It's 2025. 

LOL. It didn't take long to send you scurrying away, you said little twat! LOL. 

Never an Elton John fan, btw. I was more into Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin. 

[Michael Hardner]

The claim that there was no racism before Justin Trudeau is utterly ridiculous. 

So much so that it's a mark against the conservative leader in terms of being a serious candidate. 

He won't be able to get away with his stuff once he's PM.

Edited January 4 by Michael Hardner

[Black Dog]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

There was certainly some prejudice and discrimination. But you're exaggerating. In the everyday world nobody gave a damn if your parents or grandparents were from somewhere in Europe. And I never met anyone with an accent before college. Natives? Yes, but they were still mostly on reserves, then. Certainly none in my world. Jews? Knew a few. Nobody I ever met cared if you were a Catholic, an Anglican or a Jew.

I love this dude saying he grew up in a homogeneous bubble and then pretending his was a universal experience.
 

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White northern Europeans constituted almost the entirety of the population in the past. There is quite clear and open discrimination today by the government. Why you would even try to lie about it is beyond me.

 

For most of Canada's history, white Europeans were the only people allowed to come here (and even some of those groups had restrictions placed on them).

 

[Venandi]

2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Trudeau swore under oath, in regards to the Governments findings of Peterson being paid off by Russia.

Context seems to be lacking here. 

The accusation was made by JT when he was asked about the effect and role of Russian disinformation in anti-vaccine messaging... keep in mind that bogus Russian funding was his excuse for seizing bank accounts. 

The idea was that RT (Russia Today) had provided some funding to a number of Bloggers and the like in support of their anti vaccine messaging. He simply used Peterson as an example of the type of programming IMO but perhaps it was directed at him personally as well (not sure about that and don't care enough to go looking).

In any case, Peterson denied it... then again, so did all of the single mothers who contributed to the Go Fund Me effort and had their accounts seized... you'll have to decide for yourself who you believe, I already have though.

In the meantime, here's a link to RTs website for today, like Al Jazeera I look at it occasionally.

Does that make me a traitor? 

https://www.rt.com/news/

 

Did you peek? If so, you're just as guilty as Peterson.  Since you're the one throwing stones maybe more so, you clearly know better... right? 

See how this works? Now imagine if I went on TV and doxed you as being Russia Today fan... and supporter. I bet I could even match up a few of your views with there views... and everyone you've ever insulted here would likely be happy to believe it. 

Edited January 4 by Venandi

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, Venandi said:

In the meantime, here's a link to RTs website for today, like Al Jazeera I look at it occasionally.

Off topic but worthy of inclusion here for all of the offenders in the crowd.

Here's a link from RT that tends to support the point being made in that thread about the Tesla bombing.

It's along the lines of what I suspected once we established that he was  green Beret and familiar with explosives.... it wasn't an error based on inexperience, he was making a point.    

Exactly what I've been looking for... Go figure eh?

 

Edited January 4 by Venandi

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

The claim that there was no racism before Justin Trudeau is utterly ridiculous. 

It's not really what they said though and it's kind of dishonest for you to say that.

Racism was not a significant problem prior to Trudeau. Sure, there were some outstanding issues but for the most part racism was not a big factor in canadian life prior to Trudeau.

Then Trudeau imported the race wars and intersectionality from the states. Now racism and prejudice has exponentially exploded. Hate crimes are up something like 300% and just the last few years. Racism and racism laws have gotten to the point where if a comedian tells a joke he could wind up being wiped out financially. It has become epidemic

And that is true. You can wind all you like you can even call it an exaggeration to a degree but it is substantially true. The stats and the facts back it up

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

 

For most of Canada's history, white Europeans were the only people allowed to come here (and even some of those groups had restrictions placed on them).

 

You are both uneducated and insane. Chinese people came here in huge droves and represented a significant portion of the population since the very beginning. They practically built the railroads. Other asians as well.

And while blacks weren't terribly prevalent they were certainly allowed to come here and in fairly sizable numbers. Going back to the 1800s there was a black mayor of Victoria in British Columbia for example and he was well respected. He wrote that occasionally racism would rare its head but for the most part people were extremely welcoming and supportive of him.

The idea that only whites were allowed to come is completely retarded. Much like you

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Yeah, like that's not going to cause resentment...

Resentment for being falsely accused of racism is a natural reaction and should be expected.  Trudeau and the liberal-left are trying to create division and resentment so they can say look we were right, there is racism.  But resentment is not racism.  There is justification for being annoyed and resenting the false accusations of racism that are thrown around.  The liberal, left should really get down on their knees and beg God for forgiveness for being troublemakers and causing division between Canadians.

[Black Dog]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

You are both uneducated and insane. Chinese people came here in huge droves and represented a significant portion of the population since the very beginning. They practically built the railroads. Other asians as well.

nd while blacks weren't terribly prevalent they were certainly allowed to come here and in fairly sizable numbers. Going back to the 1800s there was a black mayor of Victoria in British Columbia for example and he was well respected. He wrote that occasionally racism would rare its head but for the most part people were extremely welcoming and supportive of him.

The idea that only whites were allowed to come is completely retarded. Much like you

Amazing that you can call me uneducated when you seem unaware of the existence of the Head Tax, Chinese Exclusion Act, Immigration Act of 1910 (including the Continuous Journey Regulation) among other race-based restrictions on immigration that served to keep immigration from non-white countries low but I suppose they probably didn't teach that stuff when you were in school in the 1940s.

Sure the government was happy to bring in a few thousand Chinese workers to do the dirty work of building the railroad (much to the chagrin of white workers) because they were cheap and disposable, and black workers were imported for low-wage, low-status service jobs but the idea that the presence of these small and ill-treated minorities meant somehow meant non white immigrants were welcome with open arms is utterly absurd. 

Oh btw Victoria never had a Black mayor. There was a Black guy who served on the city council for two years in 1867. You dipshit.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Amazing that you can call me uneducated when you seem unaware of the existence of the Head Tax, Chinese Exclusion Act, Immigration Act of 1910 (including the Continuous Journey Regulation) among other race-based restrictions on immigration that served to keep immigration from non-white countries low but I suppose they probably didn't teach that stuff when you were in school in the 1940s.

oh look at you trying to backpedal your way out of it   

You said that only whites were allowed. Yeah the Chinese were not only allowed but arrived in huge numbers. You can point to very brief periods in history where they unfairly had to pay a tax but the tax is not a restriction on entry. And lots of the periods of time there were no 'restrictions' as you call them. 

So now that you've been proven to be a complete liar and a fraud you're going to try and backpedal it and say "oh, but by 'not allowed' i meant there were some financial disincentives" 

Pathetic. Chinese arrived in large amounts. Black people arrived in fairly respectable numbers considering they were coming from the US. Japanese and other asians were also arriving in substantial numbers through most of our history.

So once again you're a lying sack of shit who can't man up when he's wrong. LOTS AND LOTS of people who weren't white were allowed into canada and ALWAYS have been. 

8 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Oh btw Victoria never had a Black mayor. There was a Black guy who served on the city council for two years in 1867.

Well that's not possible - no non whites were ever allowed in Canada according to you until recently!!!!!  LOL thanks for taking the time to confirm you're full of shit. 

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56 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You are both uneducated and insane. Chinese people came here in huge droves and represented a significant portion of the population since the very beginning.

No, they did not. Chinese were literally 1% of the population or less, for the first 100 years of Canada.

I am still certain that you are pretending to be from Canada, since you know nothing of Canadian history. 

Edited January 4 by DUI_Offender

[Black Dog]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

oh look at you trying to backpedal your way out of it   You said that only whites were allowed.

LOl you've never heard of hyperbole, Christ you're lame.

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Yeah the Chinese were not only allowed but arrived in huge numbers.

Not really, no. The 1881 Census listed 4,383 Chinese in Canada. There may have been more, but we're talking a few thousand, tops.

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You can point to very brief periods in history where they unfairly had to pay a tax but the tax is not a restriction on entry.

A head tax is literally a restriction, do you not know what words mean? It *restricted* immigration to those who could pay and was explicitly designed to discourage Chinese people from entering Canada after the completion of the Canadian Pacific Railway.

As for this being a brief period, Chinese immigrants were restricted by the Head Tax from 1885 to 1923, at which point they were banned outright until 1968. That's 83 years and damn near the entire first half of this country's history.

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So now that you've been proven to be a complete liar and a fraud you're going to try and backpedal it and say "oh, but by 'not allowed' i meant there were some financial disincentives" 

There was a literal ban on Chinese immigrants for almost 25 years.

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Pathetic. Chinese arrived in large amounts. Black people arrived in fairly respectable numbers considering they were coming from the US. Japanese and other asians were also arriving in substantial numbers through most of our history.

Note how you can't actually put a number to any of these because it would show how tiny non-white immigration was for the bulk of Canada's history (which, again, was completely by design).

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So once again you're a lying sack of shit who can't man up when he's wrong. LOTS AND LOTS of people who weren't white were allowed into canada and ALWAYS have been. 

Well that's not possible - no non whites were ever allowed in Canada according to you until recently!!!!!  LOL thanks for taking the time to confirm you're full of shit. 

 

The irony of you being a pedantic b!tch because you don't have the reading skills to recognize hyperbole while being completely ignorant of the extent of Canada's historical immigration restrictions is rich.

But you should take it up with user @I am Groot. Go tell him he's all wrong about Canada being racially homogenous for most of its history and that Canada prior to 1968 was a rainbow multicultural paradise of acceptance.

[Black Dog]

5 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

No, they did not. Chinese were literally 1% of the population or less, for the first 100 years of Canada.

Much less since "Asian" would have included Japanese and Indians among others.

[ironstone]

19 hours ago, Black Dog said:

IDC if it's better than Frost/Nixon or more entertaining than William F. Buckley, Jr vs Gore VidalI, it's almost two hours long. I dunno what kind of pathetic loser you are that you can spare that kind of time to watch these two pinheads on top of posting hundreds of times a week, but normal people have better things to do, loser.

PP sits down for an hour and 40 minute interview while Justin does a few minutes on This Hour has 22 minutes.

I suppose the latter is more suitable for the average attention span of progressives.

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2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Much less since "Asian" would have included Japanese and Indians among others.

I am Groot: Canada was literally homogeneous in the 1970s

CdnFox: The Chinese had very significant numbers by the 1970s.

 

These MAGA hyenas need to get their ducks in a row, before commenting. 

 

 

1 minute ago, ironstone said:

PP sits down for an hour and 40 minute interview while Justin does a few minutes on This Hour has 22 minutes.

I suppose the latter is more suitable for the average attention span of progressives.

Especially if all PP and Jordan Peterson will talk about is how "broken" Canada is, and lie about racism.

[ironstone]

9 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Especially if all PP and Jordan Peterson will talk about is how "broken" Canada is, and lie about racism.

Progressives always complain about how racist Western nations are, but are at a loss to explain why millions upon millions of black and brown people are willingly going to live in those same countries.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

No, they did not. Chinese were literally 1% of the population or less, for the first 100 years of Canada.

. 

Of the total population of canada, 1 percent is a significant portion.

There were about 17,000 in bc alone at the turn of the 19th century at a time when bc's population was only about 100,000 people.   That's a pretty significant hunk. 

And that's from one country. 

Soooo - thanks for admitting i was right i guess?