CdnFox Posted December 29, 2024 Report Posted December 29, 2024 1 hour ago, eyeball said: You're suggesting governments dictate what corporations can and can't do? It's about time. No, that's something that you personally have in common with Hitler but that's not what's being suggested here. Nobody is suggesting that the government dictate anything to business. But it's perfectly fine to put in some guidelines and boundaries and require them to operate within it Sorry, no dictatorship for you You'll have to keep trying. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted December 29, 2024 Report Posted December 29, 2024 (edited) 13 hours ago, CdnFox said: No, donald is one person and his name is Donald. Everybody else is their own person and they have their own beliefs and their own thoughts and they probably don't agree with Donald every single time he says something. But it's very left wing of you to try and dehumanize people by suggesting that they are all just simply shadows of one person and not actual sentient people on their own. Right, right, anybody who disagrees with you is too stupid. It's not you, it's the rest of the herd that's crazy. By all means keep that up. I'm sure the republicans will enjoy having yet another easy victory in 4 years. MAGA is a cult and Donald is their leader. Given that you aren't a "Trump supporter" you should realize this. It's very cultish of you to assume that anyone who doesn't suck Donald's testicle is a leftwinger. Yes I am dehumanizing MAGA folks because i'm calling them stupid gullible sheep, and a sheep isn't a human. Baaaaaah. Edited December 29, 2024 by Moonlight Graham 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Radiorum Posted December 30, 2024 Report Posted December 30, 2024 On 12/27/2024 at 8:48 AM, Nationalist said: Libbies are now gonna try to split the Republicans in 2. Lol, yeah, it's a psyop. Never mind the deep division between the "immigration and HB1 visa is good" (read - businesses like Musk's who want to hire these people) and the radical "America First' crowd who post things like this: If they can help our country, why didn't they help THEIR country? F*ck off. We're full. America for Americans. Exactly. By continually importing the best from elsewhere, we damage the world as a whole amen.. street sh*tters need to be deported. All of them We pay more. To foreigners? F*ck that. America First means AMERICA...FIRST. MAGAReport 12/27/24: MAGA Infighting 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted December 30, 2024 Report Posted December 30, 2024 59 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Lol, yeah, it's a psyop. Never mind the deep division between the "immigration and HB1 visa is good" (read - businesses like Musk's who want to hire these people) and the radical "America First' crowd who post things like this: If they can help our country, why didn't they help THEIR country? F*ck off. We're full. America for Americans. Exactly. By continually importing the best from elsewhere, we damage the world as a whole amen.. street sh*tters need to be deported. All of them We pay more. To foreigners? F*ck that. America First means AMERICA...FIRST. MAGAReport 12/27/24: MAGA Infighting I've been offered an HB1 visa before. But my kids still needed me here. Now that they're grown...there a few places I'd like to see. Meh... If you think this can cause a rift in the main purpose or agenda of the coming administration...you're wrong. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
I am Groot Posted December 30, 2024 Report Posted December 30, 2024 On 12/29/2024 at 3:25 PM, CdnFox said: If you mean trump, I think he cares about the average person an awful lot more than the average democrat does and more importantly doesn't pretend that he cares more than he actually does. I mean sure every single politician plays to the audience but i think trump genuinely wants to see the middle class prosperous and happy on their own. Just what is it about Trump's long public life that leads you to believe he gives a damn about ordinary people? Surely, not just because once he became a politician he claimed he did...? 1 Quote
User Posted December 30, 2024 Report Posted December 30, 2024 16 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Just what is it about Trump's long public life that leads you to believe he gives a damn about ordinary people? Surely, not just because once he became a politician he claimed he did...? The way he interacts with folks. Quote
CdnFox Posted December 30, 2024 Report Posted December 30, 2024 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: Just what is it about Trump's long public life that leads you to believe he gives a damn about ordinary people? His ego. He wants to be seen as being a benevolent leader and for people to say they prospered under him. Quote Surely, not just because once he became a politician he claimed he did...? LOL surely not indeed Public opinion has always been important to him, even back to his performer days. Doesn't make him a nice guy or anything, just means he wants them to be happy with him. And he doesn't pander to the people of the minute as much as the dems. If he thinks someone's a tard today he thinks they're a tard tomorrow, and likewise if he respects them today generally he respects them tomorrow. Compare him to the dems who are literally all about how horribly repressed the latinos are (sorry, latinx) and how their plight is critical and how we should be understanding about those who came across the border without documentation etc etc.... right up till they didn't vote for the dems. Then their men were misogynistic bigoted racist haters and their women were weak and controlled. Trump's got them beat, he calls the illegals scum before the latinos voted for him and he calls them the same after. Remember, this was a comparison of trump to the dems, not just whether or not trump was a deeply caring person overall. Quote
BeaverFever Posted December 31, 2024 Author Report Posted December 31, 2024 On 12/27/2024 at 10:36 AM, CdnFox said: They rather did. They pointed out that it's wishful thinking rather than actual reality Your comment is akin to saying "I told the psychiatrist about the voices in my head and you know, he didn't even try and have a rational debate with them" Not at all and since Elon told the MAGAs to go “f-ck themselves in the face” and started banning them from X you have to admit that once again I was right and you deniers were wrong. On 12/27/2024 at 10:36 AM, CdnFox said: I"m sure that's what your voices tell you But there's no evidence of that. It’s literally what Vivek said. On 12/27/2024 at 10:36 AM, CdnFox said: Diversity is their strength Actually it kinda has been or at least Trump’s strength. I would argue it’s actually a weakness for your average Trump supporter. Trump support comes from a varied assortment of followers who live in completely opposite realties from each other and even change their own realities at will, for example : Trump alone cured COVID by developing a vaccine. Trump alone knew COVID was a hoax and the vaccine kills people. Trump alone knows Putin is a good guy. Trump is Putin’s greatest foe. Trump fought like hell for the 2020 election that was stolen from him. Trump just kindly asked some election people to double check their work if they could spare the time and then conceded defeat, nothing different than any other presidential candidate Trump publicly condemned J6 as a “heinous attack” on democracy and did everything possible to stop it and denounce the attackers. Trump knows J6 was a legitimate and justified peaceful protest and those arrested are political prisoners. And on and on. But this is not a “big tent” success story. “Big Tent is when largely live in a shared reality but simply have different philosophies amd priorities. But in MAGA not only are there completely contradictory perceived realities between different Trump supporters you will see contradictory versions of reality coming from the same Trump supporter: one minister they’re claiming one thing, the next minute they’re claiming the exact opposite. Talk about having different voices in your head! We see it here in this forum all the time. The reason is that to MAGAs, as long as you support Trump nothing else matters and objective reality is irrelevant. This explains why Trump supporters on here rarely argue with each other even when expressing wildly contradictory versions of reality in the same thread, Ive only seen arguments a few times and only with MAGAs who support Putin. This is why the same Trump supporter will completely contradict his previous claims in order to defend Trump on whatever the new topic is. In MAGAland, reality doesn’t matter, facts don’t matter, logic doesn’t matter, they’re just temporarily useful things to assert in the moment when you’re try to defend your infallible leader, whether they’re true or not and can be discarded immediately afterwards Trump rode this all the way to the White House twice. Diversity of reality perception among MAGAs is Trump’s strength. On 12/27/2024 at 10:36 AM, CdnFox said: Sure they do. In fact it's pretty common. If they don't like the person, or in many cases if they don't like the person who appointed the person, then they will go absolutely ballistic even if the person is fully qualified. They will find some excuse. And yet amusingly those same people are the kind who freaked out when conservatives said "Maybe prime minister isn't an entry-level position" when Justin Trudeau ran in 2015. Uhh 1)have you HEARD what conservatives and republicans say about every single democrat or liberal candidate in recent history? Project much LOL. Oh wait you’re going to say “but when we do it doesn’t count because we’re always right”. 2) you failed to give even s single example of any lib/dem saying it’s anti-working class to hire a person with formal qualifications, which was your original claim. So you get a FAIL. On 12/27/2024 at 10:36 AM, CdnFox said: Hell in Canada we saw the left push hard the argument that Poilievre is unqualified because he's never held a job outside of the government and this there for means that he's not qualified to work for the government. Seriously. We had those fights right here on this board and they were everywhere. The guy is one of the most qualified people in canada with decades of experience and time in a highly sucessful gov't under a prime minister who's be several times voted to be the number one or in the top 3. But he's unqualified. No that’s a complete misrepresentation. Nobody said he’s “unqualified” we said he’s a hypocrite to portray himself as some sort of Ottawa outsider and champion of the people and the working man when he’s been a lifelong Ottawa swamp creature with a multimillion dollar government pension since age 31 as a result even as he voted against pension increases for Canadians and voted for raising Canadians’ retirement age. He’s guaranteed an Ottawa government pension of almost a quarter million a year while publicly attacking Jagmeet Singh’s $66,000/yr pension entitlement. He’s not unqualified to be the head Ottawa swamp creature, he’s overqualified. And you exaggerate the alleged greatness of the Harper government which was mostly a minority government as well as PP’s role in it, when he was still a junior troll, most famous for calling people communist or socialist or a marxist and other cheap insults whenever he didn’t like what they had to say. He still likes to do that from time to time. It’s certainly a stretch to call him “the most qualified in Canada” considering he’s never held a cabinet position or lead a large organization or had any management experience and hasn’t been party leader for long either. But he’s not less qualified than others, certainly not less than JT. On 12/27/2024 at 10:36 AM, CdnFox said: oh look at you, being all racist and misandrist and all Sure that really strengthens your argument Huh? I wasn’t anything of the sort On 12/27/2024 at 10:36 AM, CdnFox said: She was not rejected because of her color or her sex. She truly was inexperienced and have no skills or qualifications, but even that wasn't really what killed her. Bullshit. Having been a VP, Senator and AG of America’s most populous state is more qualification than a lot of presidents including Trump when he first ran. And yet Republicans dishonestly insisted this wasn’t sufficient. On 12/27/2024 at 10:36 AM, CdnFox said: So i have to ask - when democrat voters rejected her completely in the 2019 primaries leading up to the 2020 election, was that because of their hypocrisy or their obsession with anyone who is not a cisgender straight white male? Or is it because like america would later discover she is a crap candidate? They didn’t falsely claim she was “unqualified” they just preferred Biden, a 2-term VP under the highly successful and highly popular Obama administration who was supposed to have run in 2016 instead of Hillary. On 12/27/2024 at 10:36 AM, CdnFox said: This is why your side lost the election, and why Justin Trudeau is about to be thrown on the scrap heap of history and his liberal party right alongside him. You want to try and dehumanize and explain that the right wing are complete scum and evil and shouldn't be listened to because they didn't vote the way you'd like or agree with you about something. Only your side is allowed to say that about your enemies, right? The far right has a lot of scum and so does the MAGA movement in general. Canadian conservatives are still mostly reasonable with PPC syphoning off the worst of the far right. But the right still has a lot of people who think they’re entitled to chase politicians and news media down the street, scream vulgar obscenities at them, throw gravel at them, middle fingers at TV cameras, etc. The displays of vulgarity such as the “F-ck Trudeau” flags and bumper stickers etc are unique to the right, there’s no liberal or NDP equivalent (ONE Alberta guy made a homemade F Harper sign back in the day and was fined almost $550 in Alberta, the self-proclaimed land of freedom). The right thinks they’re somehow uniquely and exclusively entitled to that conspicuous vulgar behaviour and your targets are obliged to take it in silence. Talk about dehumanizing. Quote
CdnFox Posted December 31, 2024 Report Posted December 31, 2024 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Not at all and since Elon told the MAGAs to go “f-ck themselves in the face” and started banning them from X you have to admit that once again I was right and you deniers were wrong. It’s literally what Vivek said. Actually it kinda has been or at least Trump’s strength. I would argue it’s actually a weakness for your average Trump supporter. Trump support comes from a varied assortment of followers who live in completely opposite realties from each other and even change their own realities at will, for example : Trump alone cured COVID by developing a vaccine. Trump alone knew COVID was a hoax and the vaccine kills people. Trump alone knows Putin is a good guy. Trump is Putin’s greatest foe. Trump fought like hell for the 2020 election that was stolen from him. Trump just kindly asked some election people to double check their work if they could spare the time and then conceded defeat, nothing different than any other presidential candidate Trump publicly condemned J6 as a “heinous attack” on democracy and did everything possible to stop it and denounce the attackers. Trump knows J6 was a legitimate and justified peaceful protest and those arrested are political prisoners. And on and on. But this is not a “big tent” success story. “Big Tent is when largely live in a shared reality but simply have different philosophies amd priorities. But in MAGA not only are there completely contradictory perceived realities between different Trump supporters you will see contradictory versions of reality coming from the same Trump supporter: one minister they’re claiming one thing, the next minute they’re claiming the exact opposite. Talk about having different voices in your head! We see it here in this forum all the time. The reason is that to MAGAs, as long as you support Trump nothing else matters and objective reality is irrelevant. This explains why Trump supporters on here rarely argue with each other even when expressing wildly contradictory versions of reality in the same thread, Ive only seen arguments a few times and only with MAGAs who support Putin. This is why the same Trump supporter will completely contradict his previous claims in order to defend Trump on whatever the new topic is. In MAGAland, reality doesn’t matter, facts don’t matter, logic doesn’t matter, they’re just temporarily useful things to assert in the moment when you’re try to defend your infallible leader, whether they’re true or not and can be discarded immediately afterwards Trump rode this all the way to the White House twice. Diversity of reality perception among MAGAs is Trump’s strength. Uhh 1)have you HEARD what conservatives and republicans say about every single democrat or liberal candidate in recent history? Project much LOL. Oh wait you’re going to say “but when we do it doesn’t count because we’re always right”. 2) you failed to give even s single example of any lib/dem saying it’s anti-working class to hire a person with formal qualifications, which was your original claim. So you get a FAIL. No that’s a complete misrepresentation. Nobody said he’s “unqualified” we said he’s a hypocrite to portray himself as some sort of Ottawa outsider and champion of the people and the working man when he’s been a lifelong Ottawa swamp creature with a multimillion dollar government pension since age 31 as a result even as he voted against pension increases for Canadians and voted for raising Canadians’ retirement age. He’s guaranteed an Ottawa government pension of almost a quarter million a year while publicly attacking Jagmeet Singh’s $66,000/yr pension entitlement. He’s not unqualified to be the head Ottawa swamp creature, he’s overqualified. And you exaggerate the alleged greatness of the Harper government which was mostly a minority government as well as PP’s role in it, when he was still a junior troll, most famous for calling people communist or socialist or a marxist and other cheap insults whenever he didn’t like what they had to say. He still likes to do that from time to time. It’s certainly a stretch to call him “the most qualified in Canada” considering he’s never held a cabinet position or lead a large organization or had any management experience and hasn’t been party leader for long either. But he’s not less qualified than others, certainly not less than JT. Huh? I wasn’t anything of the sort Bullshit. Having been a VP, Senator and AG of America’s most populous state is more qualification than a lot of presidents including Trump when he first ran. And yet Republicans dishonestly insisted this wasn’t sufficient. They didn’t falsely claim she was “unqualified” they just preferred Biden, a 2-term VP under the highly successful and highly popular Obama administration who was supposed to have run in 2016 instead of Hillary. Only your side is allowed to say that about your enemies, right? The far right has a lot of scum and so does the MAGA movement in general. Canadian conservatives are still mostly reasonable with PPC syphoning off the worst of the far right. But the right still has a lot of people who think they’re entitled to chase politicians and news media down the street, scream vulgar obscenities at them, throw gravel at them, middle fingers at TV cameras, etc. The displays of vulgarity such as the “F-ck Trudeau” flags and bumper stickers etc are unique to the right, there’s no liberal or NDP equivalent (ONE Alberta guy made a homemade F Harper sign back in the day and was fined almost $550 in Alberta, the self-proclaimed land of freedom). The right thinks they’re somehow uniquely and exclusively entitled to that conspicuous vulgar behaviour and your targets are obliged to take it in silence. Talk about dehumanizing. These 'maga's.... are they in the room with you right now? Elon got mad at a couple of people. Not all Maga everywhere. Not even most of Maga everywhere. Just a teeny teeny tiny handful of them that he is mad at. Which means he got mad at people. As to the rest, honestly I kind of got bored about halfway through. It's just your usual rambling when you know that you're wrong and you're desperately trying to pretend otherwise. Just like it's not elon musk telling all of Mega to f off I get that you're desperate. I get that your side lost that particular fight badly and you're very angry and hope desperately in your heart that somehow this all goes horribly wrong so that you can point and say ha! But that's probably not going to happen. Elon is not elected. He has no official position whatsoever. Undoubtable that he's going to fight with the odd person, but he doesn't represent the party. I further understand that you're probably very upset about the same thing happening in Canada which is what's shaping up. The liberals are set to be wiped out in the NDP not much better. I expect we'll hear the same nonsense about the CPC from you after that as well In about 21 days trump will be president and things will go relatively smoothly if not somewhat dramatically. Like every presidency there will be ups and downs and good times and bad times and we'll laugh and we'll cry and it'll be the feel-good presidency of the summer Try to pace yourself. There's at least four more years of this 1 Quote
User Posted December 31, 2024 Report Posted December 31, 2024 9 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Not at all and since Elon told the MAGAs to go “f-ck themselves in the face” and started banning them from X you have to admit that once again I was right and you deniers were wrong. No, he told one particular person that, and who was banned from X? There were a handful of folks who lost their premium account status, for what appears to be a violation of the TOS for coordinated spamming. The folks I am aware of being involved are all still posting away on X just fine. 1 Quote
Radiorum Posted December 31, 2024 Report Posted December 31, 2024 11 hours ago, CdnFox said: Elon got mad at a couple of people. Not all Maga everywhere. Not even most of Maga everywhere. Just a teeny teeny tiny handful of them that he is mad at. Quote
User Posted December 31, 2024 Report Posted December 31, 2024 The comical thing, is that one of the primary orchestrators of the spamming, was Laura Loomer, and she is still posting away on X. She did not have her account banned. The next day, she was banned from Blue Sky though, she had not even made a single post. They banned her for even daring to exist on Blue Sky. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted December 31, 2024 Report Posted December 31, 2024 25 minutes ago, Radiorum said: You too huh? Just can't help but lie rather than address the truth. In a reply to one specific person. Kekus maxiumus i believe. One person. Not maga. Not republicans. not anyone other than that ONE person. Sigh. And you people wonder why the american public turned against you. 1 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted December 31, 2024 Report Posted December 31, 2024 (edited) MAGA people have begun to be quiet, as their leader Donald Trump addressed his followers, and told them he hires foreign workers all the time, and makes them work in conditions that break most labour laws, then does not pay them. He even married one. The cult was then satisfied. Edited December 31, 2024 by DUI_Offender Quote
BeaverFever Posted December 31, 2024 Author Report Posted December 31, 2024 12 hours ago, CdnFox said: These 'maga's.... are they in the room with you right now? Elon got mad at a couple of people. Not all Maga everywhere. Not even most of Maga everywhere. Just a teeny teeny tiny handful of them that he is mad at. Which means he got mad at people. As to the rest, honestly I kind of got bored about halfway through. It's just your usual rambling when you know that you're wrong and you're desperately trying to pretend otherwise. Just like it's not elon musk telling all of Mega to f off I get that you're desperate. I get that your side lost that particular fight badly and you're very angry and hope desperately in your heart that somehow this all goes horribly wrong so that you can point and say ha! But that's probably not going to happen. Elon is not elected. He has no official position whatsoever. Undoubtable that he's going to fight with the odd person, but he doesn't represent the party. I further understand that you're probably very upset about the same thing happening in Canada which is what's shaping up. The liberals are set to be wiped out in the NDP not much better. I expect we'll hear the same nonsense about the CPC from you after that as well In about 21 days trump will be president and things will go relatively smoothly if not somewhat dramatically. Like every presidency there will be ups and downs and good times and bad times and we'll laugh and we'll cry and it'll be the feel-good presidency of the summer Try to pace yourself. There's at least four more years of this 1 In other words I got the better of your short attention span and inability to argue the facts. Here’s a tip: stop posting loads of your bullshit claims if you don’t want each of them to be excoriated in detail line by line. The legacy MAGA movement and multiple luminaries just got smoked in the face by the new technobro oligarchs who are now driving the MAGA bus, that’s what happened. You can continue lying and pretend it was just a couple of random people and not some of MAGAs biggest influencers if you want. As I clearly demonstrated, each MAGA lives in their own unique reality and changes it at will to suit whatever is convenient in the moment 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted December 31, 2024 Report Posted December 31, 2024 11 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: MAGA people have begun to be quiet, as their leader Donald Trump addressed his followers, and told them he hires foreign workers all the time, and makes them work in conditions that break most labour laws, then does not pay them. He even married one. The cult was then satisfied. In other words somebody got mad on twitter and now it's calmed down Wow, that's the first time that's happened on twitter i believe. Love the salty tears and drama tho thanks! Quote
CdnFox Posted December 31, 2024 Report Posted December 31, 2024 5 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: In other words I got the better of your short attention span and inability to argue the facts. LOL, no in other words when you know you're losing you ramble like a drunk country music writer and it gets boring. After proving your first points were lies, it wasn't worth going through and proving the rest were And i notice that the point i DID comment on and proved you wrong about... you couldn't refute. Just skipped over that LOLOL here's a new years resolution for you kiddo - make a point of telling the truth in your arguments instead of lying for the new year. if you can't make your point without lying, then you don't have a point. And every time you rely on lies as you did in your previous post i eat you alive and you wind up looking stupid Quote
User Posted December 31, 2024 Report Posted December 31, 2024 14 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: In other words I got the better of your short attention span and inability to argue the facts. Here’s a tip: stop posting loads of your bullshit claims if you don’t want each of them to be excoriated in detail line by line. This is comical since you have ran away from your own BS claims in this thread and are ignoring me when I called them out earlier as well. I have lost track of how many discussions I have had you run away from after I have called out your garbage line by line. 1 Quote
Legato Posted December 31, 2024 Report Posted December 31, 2024 8 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: In other words I got the better of your short attention span and inability to argue the facts. Here’s a tip: stop posting loads of your bullshit claims if you don’t want each of them to be excoriated in detail line by line. The legacy MAGA movement and multiple luminaries just got smoked in the face by the new technobro oligarchs who are now driving the MAGA bus, that’s what happened. You can continue lying and pretend it was just a couple of random people and not some of MAGAs biggest influencers if you want. As I clearly demonstrated, each MAGA lives in their own unique reality and changes it at will to suit whatever is convenient in the moment You clear demon stration had the clarity of a lump of coal seen in a coal mine at midnight. What is clearly obvious is the severe hurting butt has clouded any clarity you desperately seek. Preparation H may help but it's not sold in 50lb blocks. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted December 31, 2024 Report Posted December 31, 2024 1 minute ago, User said: This is comical since you have ran away from your own BS claims in this thread and are ignoring me when I called them out earlier as well. I have lost track of how many discussions I have had you run away from after I have called out your garbage line by line. And that's why it gets boring after a while @BeaverFever. Lots of times you actually discuss and make arguments and in such cases even if you're wrong it's still interesting to read but if you just completely flat out lie or make utterly stupid statements line after line after line then its just dull. The best discussions happen when people disagree but everything they say is factually accurate and logical (yes that is entirely possible). Then it's all about the points and counterpoints and the issue gets fully examined and even if the two never do wind up agreeing everyone's knowledge of the topic and its complexity expands and we are all better for it. Do that. 1 Quote
Matthew Posted December 31, 2024 Report Posted December 31, 2024 On 12/29/2024 at 11:37 AM, I am Groot said: That doesn't mean a small number aren't incredibly talented, of course. But overall, their coding is mediocre and full of bugs. They need explicit, exact instructions on what is wanted, and close supervision, because if they run up against anything where a decision needs to be made, where an alternative path is required, they freeze. They haven't been trained to have nimble minds. I live and work amid one of the largest Indian enclaves in the US. The town i live in has a major communications and GPS tech firm. It's an absurd generalization to suggest that they are merely low skill and low tier workforce. While they are only a small minority in my midwest town, they hold a large percentage of the top tech and medical jobs and their kids are by far disproportionately top achievers in local schools. Quote
eyeball Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 On 12/29/2024 at 9:37 AM, I am Groot said: Is this good for the company? Perhaps. Is it good for the country? Nope. Who wants to live in a society like that? If what's good for the company is what matters most who cares what society thinks? No rich country breeds cheap labour for a corporation. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 9 hours ago, Matthew said: I live and work amid one of the largest Indian enclaves in the US. The town i live in has a major communications and GPS tech firm. It's an absurd generalization to suggest that they are merely low skill and low tier workforce. While they are only a small minority in my midwest town, they hold a large percentage of the top tech and medical jobs and their kids are by far disproportionately top achievers in local schools. I guess the question becomes why did they feel the need to recruit from somewhere as far away as India rather than from the united states itself? I'm not asking that sarcastically, but unless the answer is that they're simply aren't enough educated Americans then I would have to ask why did they have to go so far afield? Quote
eyeball Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: I guess the question becomes why did they feel the need to recruit from somewhere as far away as India rather than from the united states itself? I'm not asking that sarcastically, but unless the answer is that they're simply aren't enough educated Americans then I would have to ask why did they have to go so far afield? It's where the largest population on Earth is. It's like mining, you go where the greatest concentrations are available for high grading. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 (edited) 10 hours ago, eyeball said: It's where the largest population on Earth is. And? They're not looking for massive volume, they don't need billions of employees. What the hell would the number of people have to do with anything? Unless you could demonstrate that for some reason they're substantially more skilled or there's some other quality about them such as work ethic or wage expectation that would make them substantially better than a local person the fact that there's more people wouldn't be attractive in and of itself. If it was, they'd move operations there where the labour pool is. That's why call centers tend to be in india Quote It's like mining, you go where the greatest concentrations are available for high grading. If you're mining you go where there's the most ore, not where there's just the most earth. And again they don't need volume. Why would you go digging for diamonds half way around the world if you've got excellent diamonds in your backyard? There most be another reason why they're hiring these people specifically. Edited January 1 by CdnFox Quote
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