After they get your guns, they take your words

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

Yeah... whatever you are saying here, it's dire.  Whether the sky is falling, or it fell, it's dire.

the Nazarene comes as a stranger in the night

like a mountain at your back, a calming hand upon your shoulder

souls are forged by crucible in a wilderness of thorns

nec aspera terrent ; no fears on earth

[gatomontes99]

28 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I'm not concerned. It should make it less concerning for you.

Unless you believe our Conservatives are more like your Democrats in which case you'll likely never be happy about anything our government does.

It's your government. I'm just warning you that they are transitioning you from citizens to subjects. If you want to be a subject, do nothing.

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

It's your government. I'm just warning you that they are transitioning you from citizens to subjects. If you want to be a subject, do nothing.

the onset of American freedom is rapidly destabilizing the despotic regime in so called "Canada"

all these desperate thrashing attempts by the tyrants to crack down,  are the surest sign of weakness

we have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel ; and there's no going back now

Manifest Destiny

[Dougie93]

38 minutes ago, User said:

Freedom is scary, deal with it.

Liberals in Canada are terrified of American freedom, deeply ingrained in the culture

the whole point of Canada being a reactionary bulwark against American republicanism

but with the advent of the Internet, American freedom has spilled over the ramparts unchecked

inciting the hysterical panic in progress

quite reminiscent of the fall of the Soviet Union

"Mister Trudeauchev, tear down this wall"

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. "I am not saying POTATO ... I am simply saying POTAHTO"

all I am saying is that American freedom is the most powerful force in human history

if Liberals & Red Tories attempt to stand against it

they will be annihilated therein, by their own hands

from that scorched earth will rise a new paradigm

like a Phoenix from the ashes

free speaking, gun toting, God fearing Redneck empire of liberty ftw

ironically founded by the Dutch Regent William Prince of Orange

on the Banks of the Boyne River, 1 July 1690

brought over on the boat to the New World, by we Scots Irish Protestants

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

It's your government. I'm just warning you that they are transitioning you from citizens to subjects. If you want to be a subject, do nothing.

I was born a subject, like every other Canadian, including conservatives.

Thanks anyways and try not to worry - I'm pretty sure we got it all under control.

[NAME REMOVED]

1 hour ago, User said:

The problem with the authoritarian crowd that wants to control and silence disinformation is and has always been, who gets to decide what is disinformation?

Disinformation can be proven by stating the truth. This is a non-partisan issue.

1 hour ago, User said:

Because during COVID we were outright lied to by the WHO and governments about masks. We were fed major lies on both sides of the mask issue. First, they lied to us and told us not to wear them, then they lied to us and told us we had to wear them to stop the spread and that next to worthless cloth over your face would help or that surgical masks were effective... all lies. 

There were no lies told by the CDC or Health Canada. Science and Virology are constantly evolving. We eventually learned more and more about COVID, as time progressed. What the medical community thought in 2020, is different than what they think in 2024.  The more we learn about the pandemic, the better the outcome.

1 hour ago, User said:

You know who was silenced by YouTube and others because of government pressure? Those telling the truth. 

Those YouTube accounts from random bloggers, and "Doctors" that never studied Virology, or infectious diseases (dermatologists, etc).

1 hour ago, User said:

People like @herbie push the pandemic as reason why we should silence people... when it was the very people in power who were wrong. 

I find @herbie to be one of the most accurate posters on the forum. 

1 hour ago, User said:

The best way to deal with disinformation is to counter it with truth, not to silence it through authoritarian government controls. 

I agree. Unfortunately, you and the other MAGA hyenas circumvent the truth, and rely on emotions.

[NAME REMOVED]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

It's your government. I'm just warning you that they are transitioning you from citizens to subjects. If you want to be a subject, do nothing.

In terms of gun control, the United States has the worst record in the First World, and the highest murder rate, most being victims of gun violence. There have been hundreds, if not thousands of gun related school shootings and massacres in the past 25 years in America. It has become so prevalent, that most Americans do not seem to care when a person goes into a school, and kills dozens of people.

Americans have this weird obsession with guns, that no other First World country has. 

[User]

1 minute ago, DUI_Offender said:

Disinformation can be proven by stating the truth. This is a non-partisan issue.

OK. Lets play. The left claims that the truth is that men can be women and that society must allow those men to compete against women. 

So... folks on the right claim this is not true. 

The left controls the mechanisms of government and deems such claims as disinformation and lies, they now silence that speech and use government to enforce it. 

It is in fact quite partisan who gets to determine what is and is not true. 

4 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

There were no lies told by the CDC or Health Canada. Science and Virology are constantly evolving. We eventually learned more and more about COVID, as time progressed. What the medical community thought in 2020, is different than what they think in 2024.  The more we learn about the pandemic, the better the outcome.

I did not say CDC or Health Canada, I said WHO and governments. They did in fact lie. 

I imagine I could go dig up the CDC pushing the same lies at the time, likely Health Canada too. 

Either way, it was an outright lie at the start of the pandemic when they told people to not wear masks. It is not simply a matter of we just didn't know any better. They lied because they wanted to protect the supply of masks for health care workers. 

6 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Those YouTube accounts from random bloggers, and "Doctors" that never studied Virology, or infectious diseases (dermatologists, etc).

See, you are here defending silencing people who were telling the truth, because you don't deem them to be professionals. 

You are just proving my point about the dangers of allowing people like you to control who gets to speak and who doesn't. 

7 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

I find @herbie to be one of the most accurate posters on the forum. 

Of course you do. LOL

7 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

I agree. Unfortunately, you and the other MAGA hyenas circumvent the truth, and rely on emotions.

Which is why you have run away from me many times on here when I repeatedly call out your lies. 

[Legato]

18 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

I find @herbie to be one of the most accurate posters on the forum. 

 

How to speak volumes whilst remaining silent.

[Dougie93]

14 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Americans have this weird obsession with guns, that no other First World country has. 

only the Democrat party is obsessed with guns

since they are the slave holding party keeping the blacks in chains

Republicans are simply the Abolitionist party whom would arm John Brown & Co. as necessary

 

[Dougie93]

57 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I was born a subject, like every other Canadian, including conservatives.

the Post National State has overthrown the British Crown in North America

we are cast into the wilderness of American freedom therein by default

Godspeed, Elizabeth Windsor

our once Queen & Empress

the British North America Act 1867 is no more

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

I was born a subject, like every other Canadian, including conservatives.

Thanks anyways and try not to worry - I'm pretty sure we got it all under control.

That's just incredibly sad. You actually like being a subject, unable to control your own life?

34 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

In terms of gun control, the United States has the worst record in the First World, and the highest murder rate, most being victims of gun violence. There have been hundreds, if not thousands of gun related school shootings and massacres in the past 25 years in America. It has become so prevalent, that most Americans do not seem to care when a person goes into a school, and kills dozens of people.

Americans have this weird obsession with guns, that no other First World country has. 

We have the best record because we have the RIGHT to protect ourselves from criminals and the government. Stating that some have abused that right doesn't negated the fact that it is a right and our government can't touch it.

[NAME REMOVED]

4 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

We have the best record because we have the RIGHT to protect ourselves from criminals and the government. Stating that some have abused that right doesn't negated the fact that it is a right and our government can't touch it.

Try telling that to the families of mass shooting victims at schools, workplaces, or festivals. Last time I checked, school students are not criminals. 

It's interesting to note that private US citizens are 100x more likely to be involved in a gun related incident involving murder, suicide, accidental death, etc . than using a gun for legitimate self defence. 

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

That's just incredibly sad. You actually like being a subject, unable to control your own life?

in fairness, over 70 million Americans voted for the Democrat party traitors to the republic

whom are even more tyrannical than the Liberal Party of Canada, exponentially so

I'll give the Canadian devil its due

given a choice, I'd vote for Justin Trudeau over Kamala Harris

that's how bad the Democrats are;  they make the French Canadian Commies look good in comparison

Vive le Quebec libre

 

[NAME REMOVED]

How does the gun death rate in the U.S. compare with other countries?

The gun death rate in the U.S. is much higher than in most other nations, particularly developed nations. But it is still far below the rates in several Latin American countries, according to a 2018 study of 195 countries and territories by researchers at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington.

The U.S. gun death rate was 10.6 per 100,000 people in 2016, the most recent year in the study, which used a somewhat different methodology from the CDC. That was far higher than in countries such as Canada (2.1 per 100,000) and Australia (1.0), as well as European nations such as France (2.7), Germany (0.9) and Spain (0.6). But the rate in the U.S. was much lower than in El Salvador (39.2 per 100,000 people), Venezuela (38.7), Guatemala (32.3), Colombia (25.9) and Honduras (22.5), the study found. Overall, the U.S. ranked 20th in its gun fatality rate that year.

How many people die from gun-related injuries in the U.S. each year?

In 2021, the most recent year for which complete data is available, 48,830 people died from gun-related injuries in the U.S., according to the CDC. That figure includes gun murders and gun suicides, along with three less common types of gun-related deaths tracked by the CDC: those that were accidental, those that involved law enforcement and those whose circumstances could not be determined. The total excludes deaths in which gunshot injuries played a contributing, but not principal, role. (CDC fatality statistics are based on information contained in official death certificates, which identify a single cause of death.)

 

source; https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

[gatomontes99]

10 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Try telling that to the families of mass shooting victims at schools, workplaces, or festivals. Last time I checked, school students are not criminals. 

It's interesting to note that private US citizens are 100x more likely to be involved in a gun related incident involving murder, suicide, accidental death, etc . than using a gun for legitimate self defence. 

Why don't you blame the people that are so sick and disgusting to take children's lives? Why do you blame an inanimate object?

[NAME REMOVED]

9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Why don't you blame the people that are so sick and disgusting to take children's lives? Why do you blame an inanimate object?

Now you are just deflecting. There are an equal number (per-capita) of sick and disgusting people in every country. 

The bottom line, is that mass killers use guns to carry out their crimes. Even in Canada, the worst killing sprees in modern history (Nova Scotia 2020 and Montreal 1989) involved guns. The bottom line, is that the mass killings are almost always gun-related, since it is far easier to kill a person with a gun, as opposed to any other weapon (knife, bat, etc). 

Edited December 10, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[WestCanMan]

21 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

It's remarkably true, in that "censoring so-called 'disinformation' is "the biggest issue of our time"", and the words "so-called" are the key to making that sentence correct.

The gov't and their CBC lackeys are guilty of putting the label "disinformation" on inconvenient truths, and then going scorched-earth against the "so-called" disinformation by banning people for disseminating those inconvenient truths, removing the posts from social media, shadow banning users who are perceived to be conservatives in general, etc.

In short, the fact that the LPOC has gone joined with TNI to go full-fascist in order to prevent the dissemination of the truth in Canada is the biggest issue of our time. 

The CBC joined up with TNI specifically to take part in global disinformation campaigns, such as:

1. calling the Hunter laptop "Russian disinformation" and then banning people from social media platforms for telling the truth about it, or
2. banning people from social media platforms for talking about the BSL4 lab in Wuhan.

It's bizarre that the LPOC even draws attention to this. 

[WestCanMan]

18 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

[LPOC AND DNC] Disinformation has been the greatest threat to democracy in the past decade. We really need to pass laws and regulations, that punish the people that spread blatant disinformation. We have seen first hand at what damage it has done, especially during the COVID pandemic.

Fixed it for ya.

The LPOC and DNC have been waging war against accurate information, and spreading disinformation in a way that Goebbels himself would be jealous of. 

[CdnFox]

45 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Try telling that to the families of mass shooting victims at schools, workplaces, or festivals. Last time I checked, school students are not criminals. 

 

You don't give a crap about the children or mass shooting victims. Drunk driving victims are almost as many deaths each year in the US as gun killings yet strangely you're not here ranting about how we should ban booze. 

Fentynal deaths are about 5 TIMES as many as gun deaths but i don't hear you calling for harsher terms for drug dealers or the like. 

So you don't give a crap about people dying. You're just fine with it as long as it doesn't affect your echo chamber. But republicans are seen as gun owners more than democrats so anything that hurts republicans is worthwhile in your books.

And that's the only reason you care. You are fueled entirely by spite, not compassion

[User]

47 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Try telling that to the families of mass shooting victims at schools, workplaces, or festivals. Last time I checked, school students are not criminals. 

What exactly are we telling them? Bad people do bad things. Are you out apologizing for having knifes in Canada because of the mass stabbing incidents that have happened?

48 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

It's interesting to note that private US citizens are 100x more likely to be involved in a gun related incident involving murder, suicide, accidental death, etc . than using a gun for legitimate self defence. 

These are absurd statistics. 

They include criminals who live a life of crime, are engaged in criminal activity, and then end up being the victims of that activity. 

Of course some gang banger drug dealer who gets shot is more likely to have been shot and killed than ever use a gun in legitimate self defense. 

 

30 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Now you are just deflecting. There are an equal number (per-capita) of sick and disgusting people in every country. 

The bottom line, is that mass killers use guns to carry out their crimes. Even in Canada, the worst killing sprees in modern history (Nova Scotia 2020 and Montreal 1989) involved guns. The bottom line, is that the mass killings are almost always gun-related, since it is far easier to kill a person with a gun, as opposed to any other weapon (knife, bat, etc). 

And when they rent a Ryder truck and just drive through a crowd killing a ton of people... then what?

 

[Dougie93]

Just now, User said:

Of course some gang banger drug dealer who gets shot is more likely to have been shot and killed than ever use a gun in legitimate self defense.

like Thomas Sowell says ; it's all cultural

the freed slaves adopted the duelling culture of their hot headed Southron plantation owners

then imported that to the North, while the Confederate cowboys took it West

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, User said:

 

 

And when they rent a Ryder truck and just drive through a crowd killing a ton of people... then what?

 

Or knives. It keeps being pointed out to him that in Canada knives killed as many people as guns and that's pretty consistent over the years. And most of the time the knives aren't even particularly scary knives, they're just regular knives. A kitchen knife is designed to cut meat. Guess what people are made out of.

But he and the rest of the left just ignore that and pretend it doesn't exist. Along with the fact that when harper reduced gun laws gun crime went down and under Trudeau despite bands and tightened conditions gun crime has gone up

They have no answer for it so they just pretend that the truth and facts don't exist. Typical lefties

[Dougie93]

53 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's remarkably true, in that "censoring so-called 'disinformation' is "the biggest issue of our time"", and the words "so-called" are the key to making that sentence correct.

It's bizarre that the LPOC even draws attention to this. 

so called "Canada" twisting itself into ludicrous knots

in the face of American populism overthrowing the Laurentian Elite ruling class

Marshall McLuhan's Guerrilla Information War has come to pass exactly as he predicted

and we are winning ; yeehaw !