The US Might Ban Flouride

[blackbird]

Fluoridation of the public water system is a clear violation of human rights.  It is forced, mass medication of the population.  Everyone must use the public water system for everything in life.

Forced medication of the population is a form of Marxism.  This is the ideology many people have fallen for.  If the population can be forced to take fluoride, why not other things?  Why not allow government to do anything and everything they wish to the population?  That is how the evil Marxist mind works.

[Gaétan]

There never be enough studies for stubborns or people making money with that poison.

[ExFlyer]

4 hours ago, Gaétan said:

To deny conspirations is a conspiration of the governments themself.

Did your tin foil hat fall off??? LOL

[herbie]

4 hours ago, blackbird said:

Fluoridation of the public water system is a clear violation of human rights

What human right is that?
Feel free to buy "Smart Water" for $3 a litre or one of those gizmos that "filters 99.9%of flouride" they've been bombarding FB with ever since Trump announced a fellow 1diot to rum Health

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

What human right is that?
Feel free to buy "Smart Water" for $3 a litre or one of those gizmos that "filters 99.9%of flouride" they've been bombarding FB with ever since Trump announced a fellow 1diot to rum Health

The right to not be medicated against one's will.  Only Chairman Mao and the Fuhrer Hitler and their type think citizens have no such right.

If you want medication of some kind, go buy it yourself.

Edited December 10, 2024 by blackbird

[herbie]

Ooh oohh get rid of chlorine too... medication! Should we outlaw pasteurizing food to go along with your dreamworld rights  too?

[blackbird]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

Ooh oohh get rid of chlorine too... medication! Should we outlaw pasteurizing food to go along with your dreamworld rights  too?

There is a major difference between fluoridation and chlorination.  Fluoridation is done for the purpose of medicating the citizens while chlorination is done to kill the harmful bacteria in the water systems, not medicate the population.  Big difference.  Funny how you ignored that and try to make it look like both are for the same purpose.

No citizen should be forced to be medicated through the public water system.  No to fluoridation.

[Venandi]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

Funny how you ignored that and try to make it look like both are for the same purpose.

He didn't ignore it, it's a deliberate technique to goad you.

I don't see this as overly complicated, maybe the solution here is brush your damn teeth. If you need fluoride supplementation beyond what's available in toothpaste use Colgate Prevident. If you really want to knock your socks off it's available in prescription strength too. 

I use it because I need to, but here's the difference... I don't insist that my neighbours use it too. Put another way, I spend about two hours a day at the gym, but I'm not suggesting that fat people should be denied medical treatment because of their lifestyle choices...it's none of my business, that's a progressive thing and it's about to get crushed (I hope). Remember when these creatures hurled that "no medical coverage for you" thing at their neighbours right after they got fired? Not something I'll soon forget but by the same token, I would never consider retaliating with the same ugliness they displayed.

Just Imagine a world where people mind their own damn business, where they treat their neighbours kindly and with respect, essentially allowing them live their lives in peace asking only the same thing in return. That comes with a few expectations, sometimes it even means growing a pair, doing a bit of problem solving and taking responsibility for yourself.

It's what the Herbs of the world call "freedumb." 

Morning Herb, don't forget to brush your teeth...

 

Edited December 11, 2024 by Venandi

[Black Dog]

12 hours ago, herbie said:

Ooh oohh get rid of chlorine too... medication! Should we outlaw pasteurizing food to go along with your dreamworld rights  too?

You laugh but...How Raw Milk Went from a Whole Foods Staple to a Conservative Signal

[Venandi]

Good Lord, Conservative signal now eh?  

Lots of long time old school liberals have been drinking that their entire lives, and still do. Most of those folks aren't granola people trying to find their way back to mother nature either, and it never occurred to any of them that it was a political statement.... POOF, now it's a signal.

Maybe a buyback scheme for the family cow is in order eh? I know of a couple of older goats that are available too.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 11, 2024 by Venandi

[herbie]

19 hours ago, herbie said:

Ooh oohh get rid of chlorine too... medication! Should we outlaw pasteurizing food to go along with your dreamworld rights  too?

OK I will elaborate if that wasn't simple enough.
Chlorine is added to kill bacteria
Flouride added to strenthen teeth an bone.
Niether can be considered to be 'medicating' you unless you want use the same argument to stop adding Vitamin A * D to milk, Vitamin C to other drinks or Iodine to salt.

100% of you opposition is from believing bullshit claims of harm perpetrated by malcontents.
Flourine, Chlorine, Iodine are similar elements are all poisonous if consumed in excess all needed in small doses. As for the bromine in almost every processed can of pop and some beers, I've yet to hear an objection to that with zero health benefit being used. Conspiracy believer, and old, old one.Or better yet, discuss it with a dentist who knows something rather than a raving 1diot like Kennedy.

[NAME REMOVED]

14 minutes ago, herbie said:

OK I will elaborate if that wasn't simple enough.
Chlorine is added to kill bacteria
Flouride added to strenthen teeth an bone.
Niether can be considered to be 'medicating' you unless you want use the same argument to stop adding Vitamin A * D to milk, Vitamin C to other drinks or Iodine to salt.

100% of you opposition is from believing bullshit claims of harm perpetrated by malcontents.
Flourine, Chlorine, Iodine are similar elements are all poisonous if consumed in excess all needed in small doses. As for the bromine in almost every processed can of pop and some beers, I've yet to hear an objection to that with zero health benefit being used. Conspiracy believer, and old, old one.Or better yet, discuss it with a dentist who knows something rather than a raving 1diot like Kennedy.

If these bizarre policies are implemented, RFK Jr can be responsible for more deaths than any politician in American history.

[Venandi]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

100% of you opposition is from believing bullshit claims of harm perpetrated by malcontents.

Chemistry doesn’t care about the opposition of malcontents any more than it cherishes the support of ardent progressives. Chlorine does a great job of eliminating most pathogens from drinking water but there are some downsides to it as well, and suggesting that fluoride is good because chlorine isn’t bad is a pretty weak position to take.

One of the problems is that when chlorine mixes with the organic compounds found in drinking water (even small quantities) it produces toxic byproducts that are carcinogenic and they can be linked to a wide range of modern ailments.

Lots of stuff on line for those interested…  suffice it to say that it could be an entirely separate thread.

Personally, I don't see why this is such an emotional issue, why can't people just brush their teeth and mind their own business. Fluoride supplementation is so easily achieved with over the counter (and prescription) options for those that need it (like me) that the entire debate seems frivolous.

It would never have occurred to me that forcing my neighbour to use Prevident just because I do qualified as reasonable.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 12, 2024 by Venandi

[herbie]

13 minutes ago, Venandi said:

suggesting that fluoride is good because chlorine isn’t bad is a pretty weak position to take.

I'd read what I posted and tell me where I said that.
I'm getting a little sick of people twisting posts into something they can reply to in an ad hominem manner.

Flouride in water has been scientifically proven in decades of use to reduce cavities and upon removal from drinking that dental caries in kids increases. Period. If you don't want to believe in science, that's your personal failing not the rest of us.

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

tell me where I said that.

 

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Niether can be considered to be 'medicating' you unless you want use the same argument to stop adding Vitamin A * D to milk, Vitamin C to other drinks or Iodine to salt.

Added vitamin A D and C aren't necessarily a bad thing (I'm one of those evil raw milk guys BTW) but their lack of overt badness doesn't support the goodness of Fluoride either. If all of the additions mentioned aren't a form of medication, what are they then. I certainly consider the Prevident I use daily a form of medication, there's one more potent than that too and it requires a prescription.... what do you call it?

1 hour ago, herbie said:

I'm getting a little sick of people twisting posts into something they can reply to in an ad hominem manner.

I'd say it's about time...

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Flouride in water has been scientifically proven in decades of use to reduce cavities

It comes in small bottles too.. I use supplemental fluoride every day but still think the choice of using it or not should be left to my neighbours discretion and not mine. Just because something is beneficial doesn't mean you should take it upon yourself to force others into using it... or doing it. I want water in my water and milk in my milk, and I don't drink pop for the very reason you outlined. The difference here is I don't try to force those sentiments on anyone else... drink as much damn pop as you want. 

I feel the same way about forcing fat people to exercise or threatening their access to healthcare because of lifestyle issues. It's none of my business. 

It's about taking a measure of responsibility for yourself, and your children. It's also about minding your own business and leaving people alone in the hope they will reciprocate in like manner... what you would likely call freedumb.

See ya at the gym Herb.

 

Edited December 12, 2024 by Venandi

[herbie]

Vancouver water never was flouridated. Mom used to add a couple drops to every jug of milk when it got opened. Didn't help much as we were already teens by then.

Took it out of drinking water in Prince George and within 3 years dentists reported a spike in child dental caries. Got even worse and they doubled the number of dentists in 10 years.
Now if they took the iron, manganese and sulfur out instead you wouldn't need to break off a glass of water, you could pour it.

[blackbird]

Maybe if kids didn't eat so much candy and drink so much pop, they wouldn't have all the dental problems.  People need to take responsibility for their own health care and deal with it.

[WestCanMan]

On 12/7/2024 at 12:39 PM, gatomontes99 said:

Meanwhile, Canada is putting LSD in their drinking water:

CANADA FINALLY HAS OUR OWN AOC TO MAKE FUN OF!!!! 😆

Now that Trump’s administration wants to ban toxic food additives, the leftards are suddenly pro-cancer. 

[WestCanMan]

17 hours ago, blackbird said:

Maybe if kids didn't eat so much candy and drink so much pop, they wouldn't have all the dental problems.  People need to take responsibility for their own health care and deal with it.

It's much more than that.

There are a lot of food additives which are unnecessary and toxic. 

Mom's shouldn't have to get PhDs to successfully navigate a supermarket without giving their kids cancer or causing hyperactivity.

Right now the FDA is trying to ban Red Food Dye 3 before Trump's inauguration:

• The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is moving to ban an artificial food coloring called Red No. 3, also known as Erythrosine.

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  The petition the FDA is reviewing cites the Delaney Clause, which states that the agency cannot classify a color additive as safe if it has been found to induce cancer in humans or animals, per the FDA’s statement. [f'ing seriously?]

  Dr. Marc Siegel, clinical professor of medicine at NYU Langone Health and Fox News' senior medical analyst, joined "Fox and Friends" to discuss the potential ban of the food dye, which he calls "scary stuff."

  ULTRA-PROCESSED FOOD CONSUMPTION IN US POSES RISK FOR KIDS

  "It's been banned from skin products since the 1990s," Siegel pointed out. "So I wonder why is it not allowed in skin products? You know, something you can’t put on your face — yet a kid can eat it."

  Red No. 3 has been banned in the European Union, the U.K., and most of Asia and Australia, the doctor pointed out. 

Why did it take Trump's election (probably has way more to do with RFK Jr) to do something that should have been done 30 years ago? 

[WestCanMan]

21 hours ago, herbie said:

Vancouver water never was flouridated. Mom used to add a couple drops to every jug of milk when it got opened.

Was it silver and metallic-looking? That would explain a lot. 

[impartialobserver]

interesting that the OP can't even spell it correctly. 

[NAME REMOVED]

5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

interesting that the OP can't even spell it correctly. 

The MAGA clan is not known for being educated.

[impartialobserver]

Just now, DUI_Offender said:

The MAGA clan is not known for being educated.

It is petty to pick on someone for spelling but if you expect to be taken seriously maybe not have such obvious typos. 

[WestCanMan]

19 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

It is petty to pick on someone for spelling but if you expect to be taken seriously maybe not have such obvious typos. 

🤣 

If you wanna pick on someone for a typo, maybe learn to speak English. 

[WestCanMan]

Leftards: "Don't pay any attention to the fact that there are carcinogens being put into our children's food because Orinj man bad. Let's talk about typos instead."