Y'all are f'ked

[Dougie93]

On 12/5/2024 at 10:09 PM, gatomontes99 said:

You are fùçķèd

wait, you haven't even got to the punch line yet

because the Liberals put this gun ban in place five years ago

and after spending almost a hundred million taxpayer dollars on this five year program

they've managed to confiscate exactly zero guns

first of all, the police are refusing to confiscate guns for them, saying that they don't have the budget for it

next, the  Liberals don't even have a mechanism for collecting the guns

their initial plan was to have the Postal service do it

until somebody said ;

"you can't just have thousands of automatic rifles piling up in post offices, that's totally unsafe !"

so the saving grace in Canada is actually a total lack of state capacity ; Canada can't get shit done

thus, the gun owners are simply waiting the Liberals out

since the Liberals are going to get annihilated in the next election before they will be able to confiscate any guns

Edited December 7, 2024 by Dougie93

[paradox34]

On 12/5/2024 at 7:31 PM, gatomontes99 said:

I don't understand why you tolerate these things.

 

Then perhaps a little context is required.

The success of the American revolution scared the crap out of the ruling British aristocracy, They realized that if they wanted to continue exploiting the resources of any colonies the natives and colonialist would have to be disarmed but it would have to be done subtly. Gun ownership was discouraged in many ways, a well trained and armed police force strict on crime reduced the need for gun ownership. Gun ownership in the colonies became a "privilege"  not a "right".

The truth of the matter is, however that Ottawa can issue any proclamations it wants without noticeably affecting gun ownership simply because they have no idea where the guns are. Their is currently no efficient gun registry and the previously mandated gun registry was largely ignored by the majority of gun owners. I suspect this was one of the primary reasons the gun registry was scrapped: huge cost with nothing to show for it. The real problem with our draconian gun laws is that replacement with firearms using up to date technology becomes difficult.

[Dougie93]

31 minutes ago, paradox34 said:

Then perhaps a little context is required.

The success of the American revolution scared the crap out of the ruling British aristocracy, They realized that if they wanted to continue exploiting the resources of any colonies the natives and colonialist would have to be disarmed

in Canada's case the threat was Louis Riel

tho it was actually Americans whom invented gun control

the first gun control laws being passed in the American Old West to deal with gunfights at the saloons

Canada then imported this idea in 1885

in order to disarm the Natives in the Canadian West, starting with the Metis

 

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Venandi said:

I love the timing of this grab though, tactically I would have done the same thing in their place. It's an easy wedge issue and there's more of those to come IMO.

For the win. Which is why they saved it for the election.

They appear to be fairly certain that an election is quite possible in the spring. That makes sense Jaggers will have his pension by the end of February. 

And this will be one of the only wedge issues they can use. This is the one that aaron botched so amazingly badly that it basically cost him the election. So Trudeau is hoping that history will repeat itself and that this may be one of the issues that catches fire during the election. The process will be halfway through when the election comes so it will be front and center in Trudeau's comments about how the conservatives will cancel the gun grab and will restore all of the guns to the gun owners.

It's not going to work. Is not scheer and he is not Erin and he is not going to get caught off guard by a question like that.

But he knows he has nothing else so he's got to try every hail mary he possibly can and this is one of them

[CDN1]

Disarm the White population. Coddle the criminals under the guise of racial justice.

The libs are absolutely terrified of transparency on the demographics of crime, interracial violence and rape.

 

Edited December 7, 2024 by CDN1

[herbie]

CDNZero pipes up with his good reason to own assault guns!

Who gives a flying you know what? They're not needed to shoot a moose or rob a bank with either.
A 35th anniversary annual token ban by a govt that will be gone in a year. An issue PP can undo later and pretend he did something important.

Like the old Indian guy said on a hunting trip: if you even need a 5 round magazine you're no f*cking good at this - take up bowling instead.

[Five of swords]

On 12/5/2024 at 9:46 PM, DUI_Offender said:

America cannot even get it's act together, to at least do background checks on persons that want to purchase firearms, and you call us f**ked?

Stay in your lane, Yankee boy.

The usa does do background checks

[Nefarious Banana]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

CDNZero pipes up with his good reason to own assault guns!

Who gives a flying you know what? They're not needed to shoot a moose or rob a bank with either.
A 35th anniversary annual token ban by a govt that will be gone in a year. An issue PP can undo later and pretend he did something important.

Like the old Indian guy said on a hunting trip: if you even need a 5 round magazine you're no f*cking good at this - take up bowling instead.

Do you hunt?

[herbie]

15 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Do you hunt?

These days while leaning on the shopping cart for support.
Gave my guns to the kids ages ago.

[Aristides]

2 hours ago, Five of swords said:

The usa does do background checks

They are a complete joke. All they are is a check of a database that gets its information from individual states. They only apply to federally licensed dealers and if they don't get a result in 3 business days they get to sell the gun anyway. There is no check of private sales. They are slightly better than useless.

Edited December 8, 2024 by Aristides

[Five of swords]

10 minutes ago, Aristides said:

They are a complete joke. All they are is a check of a database that gets its information from individual states. They only apply to federally licensed dealers and if they don't get a result in 3 business days they get to sell the gun anyway. There is no check of private sales. They are slightly better than useless.

You are either totally making this up or trusting someone who did

[Aristides]

2 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

You are either totally making this up or trusting someone who did

You don't even know your own laws. 

[Five of swords]

11 minutes ago, Aristides said:

You don't even know your own laws. 

Well if have to know enough to ingorm you that you are wrong. In fact your claim is absurd.

Nobody with a felony or domestic violence charge is able to legally purchase a gun in the usa.and yes gun dealers will check and know.

Edited December 8, 2024 by Five of swords

[Aristides]

2 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Well if have to know enough to ibform you that you are wrong. In fact your claim is absurd.

Nobody with a felony or domestic violence charge is able to legally purchase a gun in the usa.and yes gun dealers will check and know.

https://usafacts.org/articles/firearm-background-checks-explained/

In the 26 years 3 million applications have been refused. Gun sails in the US are 1.4 million a month so that's just over 2 months worth off sales or a 0.65% rejection rate.

Edited December 8, 2024 by Aristides

[Five of swords]

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

https://usafacts.org/articles/firearm-background-checks-explained/

That link just basically repeated what I said and supports none of the nonsense you said.

[Aristides]

Just now, Five of swords said:

That link just basically repeated what I said and supports none of the nonsense you said.

It supports everything I said, I damn near quoted from it. Unlike you I actually do some research before I mouth off.

[Five of swords]

17 minutes ago, Aristides said:

https://usafacts.org/articles/firearm-background-checks-explained/

In the 26 years 3 million applications have been refused. Gun sails in the US are 1.4 million a month so that's just over 2 months worth off sales or a 0.65% rejection rate.

My God. You ******. What % of the usa is convinced felons and of that number what % would bother trying to buy a gun? I'm guessing only the ones who are as stupid as you, who thinks there is no real background check.

 

And furthermore, your initial claim involved a lot more than some arbitrary rejection rate. Show me where your link supports your absurd and specific claims.

 

Your math is also stupid because a legal gun owner might purchase multiple guns.

Edited December 8, 2024 by Five of swords

[Aristides]

The link claims 3 million applications were rejected since 1998. Currently 1.4 million guns a month are sold in the US.

https://www.safehome.org/data/firearms-guns-statistics/

So far I have provided sources to back up my claims, you have provided SFA to back up yours.

Edited December 8, 2024 by Aristides

[Five of swords]

6 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The link claims 3 million applications were rejected. Currently 1.4 million guns a month are sold in the US.

https://www.safehome.org/data/firearms-guns-statistics/

So far I have provided sources to back up my claims, you have provided SFA to back up yours.

You are making very basic logic fails. 

[Aristides]

3 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

You are making very basic logic fails. 

Still no sources, just bullshit.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

CDNZero pipes up with his good reason to own assault guns!

A 35th anniversary annual token ban by a govt that will be gone in a year. An issue PP can undo later and pretend he did something important.

Like the old Indian guy said on a hunting trip: if you even need a 5 round magazine you're no f*cking good at this - take up bowling instead.

LOL aawwww muffin, i guess when you get whipped as often as you do calling people names instead of making a sane argument is your way of showing your belly  

Quote

They're not needed to shoot a moose or rob a bank with either.

 

Shoot a moose OR Rob a bank?  That's the two uses you see for guns?
Drinking while posting again?

Quote

Like the old Indian guy said on a hunting trip: if you even need a 5 round magazine you're no f*cking good at this - take up bowling instead.

 

First nations use semi-automatic platforms more than anybody. And they are absolutely willing to do a MAG dump on an animal. I've watched it myself many times, shoot the hell out of the front and then just take the hindquarters and leave the rest because they're native and they can go shoot another one anytime they want. Then they cry baby when the moose population in their area drops.

If we all used guns the way the first nations do accidents and fatalities with Skyrocket.

And I love that you are so dense that you think that moose are the only thing people hunt. Ever heard of wolves? Hell what about rabbits and gophers, some of their banned guns are 22s. You see a lot of bank robberies happen with 22s do you?

Nobody goes and gets their firearms license and then goes and purchase a firearm to rob a bank. Those guns come from illegal sources. Law abiding licensed firearms owners commit less Crimes by far than any other group in the country, well below average. It is a culture of safety and responsibility.

Once again the resident communist has to pipe up and spew his party's line absent fact or reason. You're pathetic

[Five of swords]

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Still no sources, just bullshit.

Basic logic.i already explained why your post was 1) irrelevant to either of our claims 2) a stupid non sequitor and 3) bad at math

[Aristides]

10 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Basic logic.i already explained why your post was 1) irrelevant to either of our claims 2) a stupid non sequitor and 3) bad at math

Yup, just bullshit.

[Five of swords]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Yup, just bullshit.

So after I explained that, you actually just repeated it...which is comical...and then just cry instead of even attempting to address any of my points

[Aristides]

Just now, Five of swords said:

So after I explained that, you actually just repeated it...which is comical...and then just cry instead of even attempting to address any of my points

You haven't backed up any of your points, I have backed up all of mine, BTW, my math is just fine. Get back to me when you  have something more than you are just parroting from whoever you listen too.