Programs threatened by DOGE

[User]

1 minute ago, Radiorum said:

Defense and NASA must cut their costs - unless it benefits me.

Have you an answer to my question?

That is not what he claimed, that they must cut costs unless it benefits him. 

So, once again, what is the hypocrisy?

[User]

4 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I didn't even make a claim in my OP. I just reported.

OK, I got you. You didn't lie, you are just pushing dishonest threads. Good clarification. 

[gatomontes99]

23 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Well, if you are looking for a country that provides less than minimal services, I am sure the US will welcome you. Hey! maybe you can go bankrupt over having to pay your health costs!! Me, I'll stay in Canada.

Ok. I live in the US and health care is a very small fraction of my living expenses.

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

I live in the US and health care is a very small fraction of my living expenses.

I am glad for you, but in the US

sixty-two (62%) of the two million personal bankruptcies filed each year are the result of medical debt.

Health Care Costs Number One Cause of Bankruptcy for American Families

[gatomontes99]

2 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I am glad for you, but in the US

sixty-two (62%) of the two million personal bankruptcies filed each year are the result of medical debt.

Health Care Costs Number One Cause of Bankruptcy for American Families

Yeah that's a bullshìt scam that is legal. If you are on Medicare and social securoty, bankruptcy court can't take your home if you have medical debt. So everyone over 65 files bankruptcy.

[Radiorum]

4 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Yeah that's a bullshìt scam that is legal. If you are on Medicare and social securoty, bankruptcy court can't take your home if you have medical debt. So everyone over 65 files bankruptcy.

Are you saying there are not people who have trouble covering their health costs?

[WestCanMan]

Yeah, for sure they will just be cutting off veterans' pensions and ending all forms of gov't medicare and education payments. They're gonna get rid of the military and make breast implants illegal too, because they hate votes.

Great thread. Truly worthwhile. 

19 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Are you saying there are not people who have trouble covering their health costs?

Are you just pretending to be retarded? 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

And there is a bigger question here - Who-TF is Musk? - an unelected opportunist who knew how to shmooze the president-elect and in so doing gain enormous power and in the long run do doubt enrich himself.

Not just shmooze, fund his campaign with $100s of Millions. He OWNS Trump now.

[Legato]

And the band played on.

[Fluffypants]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

And there is a bigger question here - Who-TF is Musk? - an unelected opportunist who knew how to shmooze the president-elect and in so doing gain enormous power and in the long run do doubt enrich himself.

Who is Musk? He is the richest man in the world and a damn genius businessman he knows how to run things efficiently and cheaper. He dumped most of the Twitter staff and it runs just fine without them I have a feeling the government will be the same way.

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

Are you saying there are not people who have trouble covering their health costs?

I'm saying the number is skewed greatly. It also includes anyone with any medical debt. Remember, when people file for bankruptcy, they don't pay off debts first. If you owe $35 to a doctor for a copay, oh look you have medical debt.

[NAME REMOVED]

7 hours ago, Black Dog said:

The silver lining here if they go through with this is a lot of Trump voters are gonna get what they asked for and they're gonna get it good and hard.

Problem is we are going to suffer too....Canada does 75% of our trade with USA. If their economy tanks, ours will too, and probably will lead to a World recession.

[Radiorum]

12 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

Who is Musk? He is the richest man in the world and a damn genius businessman

Bring on the oligarchy! One step away from despotism.

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14 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Are you saying there are not people who have trouble covering their health costs?

I've come to believe most Trump supporters are brain-dead imbecilities. 

[Nationalist]

OH...MY...GAWD!

It's yet another Libbie cry-fest and fear porn exhibition. Hang on...let me get some popcorn.

ok...please continue.

 

[Nationalist]

enjoy...

 

[User]

3 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Bring on the oligarchy! One step away from despotism.

How is this an oligarchy or one step away from despotism?

 

16 hours ago, robosmith said:

Not just shmooze, fund his campaign with $100s of Millions. He OWNS Trump now.

So, you also believe Harris would have been owned by all her rich donors too?

[User]

17 hours ago, Radiorum said:

I am glad for you, but in the US

So you agree Obamacare was a miserable failure?

[WestCanMan]

7 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Bring on the oligarchy! One step away from despotism.

The things that you say are so stupid that I can't even tell if you're being sarcastic half of the time.

1. Do you honestly believe that heeding the counsel of the world's most prolific businessmen and visionary is a bad thing?
2. Do you think that Kamala wouldn't have taken any non-politicians into her circle of advisors, or that they'd somehow be more knowledgeable, trustworthy and insightful than Elon Musk? Would you rather the POTUS had a sidekick like the girl from the "Call me Daddy" podcast, Jo Behar, Jussie Smollett, or Joy Reid?  

Were you being sarcastic, or were you having a typical leftard Chicken Little moment, Radiorum?

[Radiorum]

5 hours ago, User said:

How is this an oligarchy or one step away from despotism?

Honestly, the US is probably already an oligarchy, where rich elites rule. The wealthy gets the laws they want.

Research has shown that “the average citizen exerts little or no influence on federal government policy.”

Ever heard of the Koch brothers? 

And if you don't understand that Trump seeks to make himself a king, you haven't been paying attention.

5 hours ago, User said:

So you agree Obamacare was a miserable failure?

Nearly 40 million Americans got health care under the ACA. 

https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/current-health-coverage-under-affordable-care-act

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Do you honestly believe that heeding the counsel of the world's most prolific businessmen and visionary is a bad thing?

Whose interests do you think are foremost in his mind?

 

[WestCanMan]

35 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Honestly, the US is probably already an oligarchy, where rich elites rule. The wealthy gets the laws they want.

Research has shown that “the average citizen exerts little or no influence on federal government policy.”

Holy old dumbforks Batman, you needed to look at research to find out that "1 person out of 330,000,000 can't exert much influence on the gov't"?

What are you trying to prove right now?

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Ever heard of the Koch brothers? 

Ever heard of George Soros?

Ever heard of James Carville?

What's your point?????

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And if you don't understand that Trump seeks to make himself a king, you haven't been paying attention.

That's just a platitude, buddy. It's the worst example of a snuck premise in the entire history of the written word. 

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Nearly 40 million Americans got health care under the ACA. 

https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/current-health-coverage-under-affordable-care-act

Whose interests do you think are foremost in his mind?

RFK Jr's MAHA movement can do more for 40M people than the ACA can. How sad is that? 

[User]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

Ever heard of the Koch brothers? 

I have. Did you have a point?

If only your argument or claim was that the average person has less impact on laws... duh. 

So, I ask again: How is this an oligarchy or one step away from despotism?

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

Nearly 40 million Americans got health care under the ACA. 

So why are there so many bankruptcies still attributed to medical debt as you are here complaining about?

[Radiorum]

11 hours ago, User said:

How is this an oligarchy or one step away from despotism?

Well, I guess we can use the example of Putin and his oligarchs. In the summer of 2000, Putin met with his oligarchs and offered them a deal:

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bend to my authority, stay out of my way, and you can keep your mansions, superyachts, private jets, and multibillion-dollar corporations (corporations that, just a few years before, had been owned by the Russian government). In the coming years, the oligarchs who reneged on this deal and undermined Putin would be thrown into a Siberian prison or be forced into exile or die in suspicious circumstances. The loyalists who remained — and the new ones who got filthy rich during Putin's long reign — became like ATM machines for the president and his allies.

In 2003, the first oligarch to learn Putin's way – Khodorkovsky - challenged Putin. Khodorkovsky ended up getting arrested at gunpoint, charged with fraud and tax evasion, and spent the next decade imprisoned in Siberia.

Anyway, the other oligarchs learned their lesson, and Putin went on to consolidate his wealth and his power.

How Putin Conquered Russia's Oligarchy

11 hours ago, User said:

So why are there so many bankruptcies still attributed to medical debt as you are here complaining about?

The ACA needs to be expanded. There are still uninsured people.

26.4 million uninsured in 2022.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/entering-their-second-decade-affordable-care-act-coverage-expansions-have-helped

[User]

4 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Well, I guess we can use the example of Putin and his oligarchs. In the summer of 2000, Putin met with his oligarchs and offered them a deal:

I did not ask you to give me a history lesson on Putin. 

It appears you are unable to defend your baseless assertion. 

4 hours ago, Radiorum said:

The ACA needs to be expanded. There are still uninsured people.

So, you agree, it was a failure. 

[CdnFox]

On 11/22/2024 at 1:22 PM, Radiorum said:

Below is a list of programs that may be targeted by DOGE as their funding elapses this year.

Expiring funding in 2024

Veterans’ health care

$119.1B

Drug development and opioid addiction treatment

48.2B

State Department

38.4B

Housing assistance

37.2B

Justice Department

35.3B

Education spending

29B

NASA

24.9B

Health care and student loan programs

22.5B

International security programs

13.5B

Head Start

12.3B

National defense programs

11.3B

Workforce training programs

9.5B

PACT Act

9B

Child care assistance

8.7B

Education assistance for disabled students

7.7B

Federal Aviation Administration

7.1B

Immigration and Nationality Act

6.9B

Energy policy

6.9B

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

5.9B

State housing grants

5.8B

Helping Families Save Their Homes Act

4.1B

Annual appropriations

3.2B

HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria treatment and research

2.9B

Water infrastructure

 10 programs that could be on the ‘government efficiency’ chopping block

I thought literally all the programs were supposed to be evaluated and may face cuts or amalgamations?