Say her name, lefties, because your vote contributed to this young woman's death

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, DUI_Offender said:

I have a solution that will solve this problem once and for all.

Kick everyone out.

All 340 million Americans need to leave by December 31, 2024.

There will never be any murders again.

The United States will be designated a bird sanctuary. 

Problem solved.

One problem solved anyway. I rather suspect there might be a few new ones to contend with as a result   

A nation's sovereignty is important. They need to have a practical policy that lets people in where it's in their interest to do so legally and properly and everyone else has to make peace with the fact that they're going to have to fix things at home

[User]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

No, it's saying that I won't play a game where you set all the rules.

How am I supposed to make points in a discussion about an innocent woman's death? 

No game. 

A woman was murdered by an illegal immigrant who should never have been here to begin with, but the Biden administration let him go after catching him. Even beyond that, he should have been deported after he broke the law yet again, but NYC let him go. Then, yet again, he was arrested in Georgia for theft and let go... his brother DUI... let go... 

Every step of the way these illegal immigrants are allowed to stay, allowed to repeatedly break the law, let go by sanctuary cities... and this one murdered someone. 

And you can't figure out how to condemn any of this because you want to play political games instead. 

38 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

I don't see the point of exploiting a tragic death of a young woman, and making it political. 

Of course not, because you might have to admit the policies you support and the politicians you support who enable them are garbage. 

[Hodad]

5 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Live Band at the Black Swan Tavern

Do they have any drink or food specials?

Veggie puree with an Ensure chaser. 

[Nationalist]

300,000+ children are lost by the Brandon administration. According to Tom Homan, who would know, many are in forced labor, sex trafficked, or given to pedophiles. Yet Libbie politicians say they will protect the monsters who do this. These politicians and anyone who support them, are disgusting examples of the lowest of humanity. These scum defend this...

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/01/us/cleveland-texas-neighbor-shooting-monday/index.html

And this...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-teen-lizbeth-medina-murder-what-to-know-about-illegal-immigrant-suspect-rafael-romero/ar-BB1jtEqA

And this...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/illegal-migrant-accused-of-murdering-jocelyn-nungaray-12-held-on-10-million-bond/ar-BB1oNYfZ

These scum should be identified and have their own cancel tactics turned on them. They should lose their jobs, be shunned by society and destroyed.

No sympathy.

[Michael Hardner]

9 hours ago, User said:

 

And you can't figure out how to condemn any of this because you  

I do not support Democrats. 

I do not believe policy discussion begins with some kind of moral torch bearing. 

Of course I condemn murder, and I'm against illegal immigration 

Are we done now?

[Deluge]

15 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Let's all get moral though. 

How about an economy is where the wealth goes to the elite, tech monoliths, and financiers while the bottom 90% are worked to death and forced to prey upon each other?

How about saying the name of the millions who died because of fake Christian oppression of the poor?

Too soon?

Not too soon, just in the wrong thread. This thread is dedicated to Laken Riley. 

[Deluge]

16 hours ago, Legato said:

So you don't care about Laken Riley?

No, he doesn't. He cares about criminal rights, abortion, gender confusion, and anything else that decays civilized society. 

[User]

33 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I do not support Democrats. 

I do not believe policy discussion begins with some kind of moral torch bearing. 

Of course I condemn murder, and I'm against illegal immigration 

Are we done now?

This is, in fact, a policy discussion because it is the policies that led to this tragic murder. 

Not only this one, but many others. 

If you want to play the more abstract statistics game, we can look at the hundreds of thousands of known criminal illegal immigrants that are in our country. We don't have to talk about this one person, we can talk about all the other victims too. 

 

[Deluge]

6 hours ago, Hodad said:

Veggie puree with an Ensure chaser. 

You marxists are such dumbasses. 

[NAME REMOVED]

53 minutes ago, User said:

 

If you want to play the more abstract statistics game, we can look at the hundreds of thousands of known criminal illegal immigrants that are in our country. We don't have to talk about this one person, we can talk about all the other victims too. 

 

Prove that there are "hundreds of thousands of illegals," who have committed crimes in America. And for argument sake, I am referring to crimes excluding being in the country illegally. 

[User]

19 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Prove that there are "hundreds of thousands of illegals," who have committed crimes in America. And for argument sake, I am referring to crimes excluding being in the country illegally. 

 

[NAME REMOVED]

 

[User]

Oh wow, some random guy on X said something... so it must be true. 

 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, User said:

This is, in fact, a policy discussion because it is the policies that led to this tragic murder. 

Not only this one, but many others. 

If you want to play the more abstract statistics game, we can look at the hundreds of thousands of known criminal illegal immigrants that are in our country. We don't have to talk about this one person, we can talk about all the other victims too. 

 

We should start with an agreement on what constitutes a problem.

Is a single murder a problem that requires a policy review?

Sorry to shake your foundation but it's not.

[User]

10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

We should start with an agreement on what constitutes a problem.

Is a single murder a problem that requires a policy review?

Sorry to shake your foundation but it's not.

A single murder is evidence of a problem with the policy. 

The issue is not my foundation. 

If a person dies in a manufacturing plant after getting trapped in an oven... guess what happens? Policy review. How did that person get trapped? What can we do to prevent that? OSHA shows up and checks policy. 

OSHA doesn't just ignore that someone dies. 

Oh well, it was just one person that died, lets wait until about 1,000 more die before we review the policy. That is your position. Oh well. Just ignore it because you don't want to admit the obvious. 

Your position is not logical, accurate, and is just obtuse. 

Anything to avoid having to admit what happened here was awful and shouldn't have happened. 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

Prove that there are "hundreds of thousands of illegals," who have committed crimes in America. And for argument sake, I am referring to crimes excluding being in the country illegally. 

But that's an interesting point in and of itself. They ARE in the country illegally, and they knowingly broke that law.

So if somebody is willing to start their time in America by breaking laws, is it not entirely reasonable to say that There's no reason to believe they won't break additional laws. They've already proven themselves willing to break the law and now it's just a matter of how many and how severe a law they're willing to break.

I don't know that you can say "How many criminals have broken a law other than the law they broke to become a criminal". The point is we know they're a criminal and willing to break god knows how many laws if it suits them. 

Edited November 21, 2024 by CdnFox

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, User said:

A single murder is evidence of a problem with the policy. 

 

I'll stop there.

Why?

[User]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'll stop there.

Why?

You are still playing games. Why?

 

[West]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

We should start with an agreement on what constitutes a problem.

Is a single murder a problem that requires a policy review?

Sorry to shake your foundation but it's not.

Do you think its good policy that instead of deporting a guy for overstaying their visa they fly him across the country? 

Leaving aside the murder, seems like a waste of taxpayers resources to be giving the guy free airfare to Georgia, no? 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, User said:

You are still playing games. Why?

 

I'm not.  If you don't have an answer to this question I'll wait...

[User]

43 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm not.  If you don't have an answer to this question I'll wait...

Yes, you are. I made my argument in the post you responded to and you ignored it. 

Every step of the way in this discussion you have been obtuse and obfuscated. 

 

[NAME REMOVED]

18 hours ago, Nationalist said:

300,000+ children are lost by the Brandon administration. According to Tom Homan, who would know, many are in forced labor, sex trafficked, or given to pedophiles. Yet Libbie politicians say they will protect the monsters who do this. These politicians and anyone who support them, are disgusting examples of the lowest of humanity. These scum defend this...

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/01/us/cleveland-texas-neighbor-shooting-monday/index.html

And this...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-teen-lizbeth-medina-murder-what-to-know-about-illegal-immigrant-suspect-rafael-romero/ar-BB1jtEqA

And this...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/illegal-migrant-accused-of-murdering-jocelyn-nungaray-12-held-on-10-million-bond/ar-BB1oNYfZ

These scum should be identified and have their own cancel tactics turned on them. They should lose their jobs, be shunned by society and destroyed.

No sympathy.

Typical scare tactics.

You should realise that undocumented immigrants to the USA have a lower crime rate than people born in America:

https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-offending-rate-lower-us-born-citizen-rate

 

Even if the crime rate of undocumented immigrants was zero, I am sure you would find other reasons to kick them and their families out.

 

Edited November 22, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Fluffypants]

9 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Typical scare tactics.

If you had a brain, you would realise that undocumented immigrants to the USA have a lower crime rate than people born in America:

https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-offending-rate-lower-us-born-citizen-rate

 

Even if the crime rate of undocumented immigrants was zero, I am sure you would find other reasons to kick them and their families out.

 

Any crime by them is a crime that wouldn't of happened if they were kept out.

Lakin Riley would still be alive if they hadn't set that animal loose in this country. We have more than enough crime in this country we shouldn't be importing more.

[NAME REMOVED]

7 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

Lakin Riley would still be alive if they hadn't set that animal loose in this country. We have more than enough crime in this country we shouldn't be importing more.

Yes, I totally agree. I mean there has never been a clean cut, American-born Republican who would do such things...

Edited November 22, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Nationalist]

31 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Typical scare tactics.

If you had a brain, you would realise that undocumented immigrants to the USA have a lower crime rate than people born in America:

https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-offending-rate-lower-us-born-citizen-rate

 

Even if the crime rate of undocumented immigrants was zero, I am sure you would find other reasons to kick them and their families out.

 

Actually I figure if you had a brain it would rattle.

Dimwitty...none of these crimes would have happened if your sick heroes hadn't opened the border and/or deported the the first fcking time they were arrested. 

And yes I would kick every single ILLEGAL out. That's because they are already criminals...Dimwitty.

Rattle Rattle Rattle.