How we should govern

[gatomontes99]

In 18 months, the house will flip. That's normal mid term elections. At that point, the ability to pass legislation will end and the children will be in charge again.

First, we have to understand that, while calling us Nazis, fascists, racists, etc etc didn't work, they will assume they didn't scream loud enough and ramp up their ridiculous assertions. They will behave like children. We just have to ignore them and keep moving forward.

Second, we have to identify all the major objectives. I want an actual budget with true cuts, border wall, border security, originalist judges at all levels, simplified tax codes and federally mandated voter ID.

Third, we have to set up an email that the individual R reps can send their concerns and wants to, so we can whip the votes and not have these embarrassing votes where some a-hole votes with the children. Compromise within the adult party.

Finally, move that legislation. Get us as far from the left wing children's agenda as we can get and ignore every b.s. claim about what it will do.

[Deluge]

6 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

In 18 months, the house will flip. That's normal mid term elections. At that point, the ability to pass legislation will end and the children will be in charge again.

First, we have to understand that, while calling us Nazis, fascists, racists, etc etc didn't work, they will assume they didn't scream loud enough and ramp up their ridiculous assertions. They will behave like children. We just have to ignore them and keep moving forward.

Second, we have to identify all the major objectives. I want an actual budget with true cuts, border wall, border security, originalist judges at all levels, simplified tax codes and federally mandated voter ID.

Third, we have to set up an email that the individual R reps can send their concerns and wants to, so we can whip the votes and not have these embarrassing votes where some a-hole votes with the children. Compromise within the adult party.

Finally, move that legislation. Get us as far from the left wing children's agenda as we can get and ignore every b.s. claim about what it will do.

I also want that anchor baby nonsense to end. Whatever it takes, we've also got to get that fixed. 

[gatomontes99]

6 minutes ago, Deluge said:

I also want that anchor baby nonsense to end. Whatever it takes, we've also got to get that fixed. 

If we change that, I would prefer a clause that doesn't not give citizenship to children born to parent(s) that are in the country illegally but does not punishment the child for being here illegally. What I mean is that a child born of a mom or mom and dad that crossed the border illegally is not given citizenship. They, also, aren't considered to have violated the law because of what their parents did. The parents and child have to leave. The parents can and should be punished under the law.

If someone has legal status, ie a green card, and has a child, that child should be a temporary resident until one of the parent's achieves citizenship, and then the child is automatically granted citizenship.

 

 

[CdnFox]

27 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

In 18 months, the house will flip. That's normal mid term elections. At that point, the ability to pass legislation will end and the children will be in charge again.

First, we have to understand that, while calling us Nazis, fascists, racists, etc etc didn't work, they will assume they didn't scream loud enough and ramp up their ridiculous assertions. They will behave like children. We just have to ignore them and keep moving forward.

Second, we have to identify all the major objectives. I want an actual budget with true cuts, border wall, border security, originalist judges at all levels, simplified tax codes and federally mandated voter ID.

Third, we have to set up an email that the individual R reps can send their concerns and wants to, so we can whip the votes and not have these embarrassing votes where some a-hole votes with the children. Compromise within the adult party.

Finally, move that legislation. Get us as far from the left wing children's agenda as we can get and ignore every b.s. claim about what it will do.

I don't actually know what the omnibus laws are in the states when it comes to passing federal law, but essentially I think you are more or less correct in that trump should think of every controversial thing he wants to do and find a way to cram it through in the next 6 months, even if it's not coming into force till much later. You might think he'd have a year but i'd say he wants to get it out of the way early enough that it doesn't have a negative effect on the midterms. 

On the back half of his term he can focus on slightly less controversial things and things like the economy. Get it humming along, make people happy and set the next Republican up for success

[West]

35 minutes ago, Deluge said:

I also want that anchor baby nonsense to end. Whatever it takes, we've also got to get that fixed. 

You basically have to do that as priority #1 because illegals are skewing the census which in turn skews the power to leftist states. Crooked really when you think of it but is what it is..

I also think Donnie has to watch out for how the establishment Republicans in the Senate are going to try and power play for the majority leader in the Senate. Apparently McConnell is trying to pull a fast one with that

 

Edited November 7, 2024 by West

[gatomontes99]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I don't actually know what the omnibus laws are in the states when it comes to passing federal law, but essentially I think you are more or less correct in that trump should think of every controversial thing he wants to do and find a way to cram it through in the next 6 months, even if it's not coming into force till much later. You might think he'd have a year but i'd say he wants to get it out of the way early enough that it doesn't have a negative effect on the midterms. 

On the back half of his term he can focus on slightly less controversial things and things like the economy. Get it humming along, make people happy and set the next Republican up for success

He can't do anything on the back half of his term because the left won't do it. He could propose a bill that bans fascism, decries Hitle and prevents Children from smoking cigarettes and they would still delay it.

[CdnFox]

48 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

He can't do anything on the back half of his term because the left won't do it. He could propose a bill that bans fascism, decries Hitle and prevents Children from smoking cigarettes and they would still delay it.

Yeah but if it's non controversial stuff that people like and they block that then the dems have to wear it.    IF you get all the important stuff out of the way early on an the dems want to hold up  a budget bill they'll look like the bad guys. 

 

[Black Dog]

4 hours ago, Deluge said:

I also want that anchor baby nonsense to end. Whatever it takes, we've also got to get that fixed. 

Eat shit:

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. 

4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

If we change that, I would prefer a clause that doesn't not give citizenship to children born to parent(s) that are in the country illegally but does not punishment the child for being here illegally. What I mean is that a child born of a mom or mom and dad that crossed the border illegally is not given citizenship. They, also, aren't considered to have violated the law because of what their parents did. The parents and child have to leave. The parents can and should be punished under the law.

You think kicking children out of the country they were born and grew up in and levying additional punishments against the parents doesn't punish or hurt kids? You're a psycho.

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

 

You think kicking children out of the country they were born and grew up in and levying additional punishments against the parents doesn't punish or hurt kids? You're a psycho.

If it does wouldn't it be their parents who did the hurting knowing the law?

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4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

In 18 months, the house will flip.

Project 2025 will outlaw democratic election, or Democrats will be banned from running.

[CdnFox]

22 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Project 2025 will outlaw democratic election, or Democrats will be banned from running.

My god you losers certainly did deserve to lose didn't you. Not a word of truth from you during the whole campaign or now

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

How we should govern

As if your reputations counted in it. The electorate will give Trump about 2 years to have Made America Great Again or go back to thinking about flipping the White House again.

5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Second, we have to identify all the major objectives. I want an actual budget with true cuts, border wall, border security, originalist judges at all levels, simplified tax codes and federally mandated voter ID.

What happened to the 1st major objective Trump promised, the biggest deportation program in America's history?

How much of this promise do people think or even better predict Trump will have delivered on during the 1st 18 - 24 months of his term? What if it's next to nothing?

 

Edited November 7, 2024 by eyeball

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Eat shit:

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. 

You think kicking children out of the country they were born and grew up in and levying additional punishments against the parents doesn't punish or hurt kids? You're a psycho.

Well, yes, it would have to be an amendment. However, you can't do post hoc law changes and apply those changes to people that followed the law. If an amendment was proposed, it would only apply to births after ratification date.

 

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

Project 2025 will outlaw democratic election, or Democrats will be banned from running.

This is what I was talking about. They will just take their pis$ poor tactics and keep applying them only louder and more crazy.

49 minutes ago, eyeball said:

As if your reputations counted in it. The electorate will give Trump about 2 years to have Made America Great Again or go back to thinking about flipping the White House again.

What happened to the 1st major objective Trump promised, the biggest deportation program in America's history?

How much of this promise do people think or even better predict Trump will have delivered on during the 1st 18 - 24 months of his term? What if it's next to nothing?

 

You do understand that the deportation will start with those that break the law?

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

Eat shit:

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. 

You think kicking children out of the country they were born and grew up in and levying additional punishments against the parents doesn't punish or hurt kids? You're a psycho.

Stop crying, Mrs. Marx. 

Non-citizens do not beget citizens. That section needs further clarification. 

As for those already here, the damage has been done. There's nothing we can do about that, thanks to you America hating psychopaths, but we can clarify that section. 

 

Edited November 8, 2024 by Deluge

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2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

My god you losers certainly did deserve to lose didn't you. Not a word of truth from you during the whole campaign or now

Donald Trump has won the election, and Republicans are now comfortable openly admitting that Project 2025 was the plan all along. 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/republicans-celebrate-project-2025-trump-win-1235155322/

[Deluge]

35 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Donald Trump has won the election, and Republicans are now comfortable openly admitting that Project 2025 was the plan all along. 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/republicans-celebrate-project-2025-trump-win-1235155322/

Is that what Rolling Stone told you, DUM_? Trump already has an Agenda, and it's a pretty f*cking good one. You should read it.  

Edited November 8, 2024 by Deluge

[Black Dog]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Well, yes, it would have to be an amendment. However, you can't do post hoc law changes and apply those changes to people that followed the law. If an amendment was proposed, it would only apply to births after ratification date.

Good luck getting a 2/3 majority to proposal let alone 38 states to ratify it/

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

Non-citizens do not beget citizens. That section needs further clarification. 

Do you need to read it again shithead? 

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. 

What part of "all persons" do you not understand?

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As for those already here, the damage has been done. There's nothing we can do about that, thanks to you America hating psychopaths, but we can clarify that section. 

Good luck trying.

Edited November 8, 2024 by Black Dog

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

Donald Trump has won the election, and Republicans are now comfortable openly admitting that Project 2025 was the plan all along. 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/republicans-celebrate-project-2025-trump-win-1235155322/

So.  Still not donald trump saying he's interested in it.  More 'advisers'. 

LOLOL. Kay  

[Legato]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

Donald Trump has won the election, and Republicans are now comfortable openly admitting that Project 2025 was the plan all along. 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/republicans-celebrate-project-2025-trump-win-1235155322/

Did you not know that Brian Jones and Charlie Watts are dead?

[Deluge]

12 hours ago, Black Dog said:

Do you need to read it again shithead? 

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. 

 

Sorry, pervert, the founders didn't account for squirrelly f*cks like you. There is no way in hell that they meant to include aliens in that part of the section. It was written for the freed slaves, anyways, not for your precious legal visitors and criminal invader friends. 

The anchor baby racket just may end in the next four years, God willing. 

Edited November 8, 2024 by Deluge

[Hodad]

15 hours ago, eyeball said:

As if your reputations counted in it. The electorate will give Trump about 2 years to have Made America Great Again or go back to thinking about flipping the White House again.

What happened to the 1st major objective Trump promised, the biggest deportation program in America's history?

How much of this promise do people think or even better predict Trump will have delivered on during the 1st 18 - 24 months of his term? What if it's next to nothing?

 

His health care plan has been "two weeks away" for about 9 years, so I don't think 2 years will be enough to accomplish his day 1 priorities. Just math. 

[Black Dog]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

Sorry, pervert, the founders didn't account for squirrelly f*cks like you.

LOL you think the 14th was written by the founders? The American education system strikes again.

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There is no way in hell that they meant to include aliens in that part of the section. It was written for the freed slaves, anyways, not for your precious legal visitors and criminal invader friends. 

Yeah and the second amendment wasn't intended to create an unregulated individual right to a gun, but you cocksuckers invented all kinds of bullshit reasons to pretend otherwise. Fortunately the 14th is as unambiguous as it can get: 

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. 

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The anchor baby racket just may end in the next four years, God willing. 

Tough shit b!tchboy there's no way you're getting the numbers needed for that.

Edited November 8, 2024 by Black Dog

[Deluge]

21 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

1. LOL you think the 14th was written by the founders? The American education system strikes again.

2. Yeah and the second amendment wasn't intended to create an unregulated individual right to a gun, but you cocksuckers invented all kinds of bullshit reasons to pretend otherwise. Fortunately the 14th is as unambiguous as it can get: 

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. 

Tough shit b!tchboy there's no way you're getting the numbers needed for that.

1. Did I say that it was, pervert? When an Amendment is made, it's at least supposed to be in the spirit of the original document. Of course, a piece of shit like you fights against stuff like that, which is another reason why your side lost the election. 

2. No comrade, you're wrong - again. lol. If we were actually following the 2nd Amendment, citizens would be armed and well regulated in case a tyrant took over, or Antifa sluts like you got out of control. And to be quite frank, the militias of that time had muskets just like the military had muskets. Technically, we should be packing M4 carbines, just like what the military has. 

All persons born of citizens or all persons naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. All persons born of non-citizens in the United States are not citizens. 

That is how it should read, and I suspect we will get to that sooner rather than later.  

Edited November 8, 2024 by Deluge

[Black Dog]

21 minutes ago, Deluge said:

1. Did I say that it was, pervert?

Yes you did, you m0r0n.

"the founders didn't account for squirrelly f*cks like you. There is no way in hell that they meant to include aliens in that part of the section."

Womp womp, you're retarded.

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When an Amendment is made, it's at least supposed to be in the spirit of the original document. Of course, a piece of shit like you fights against stuff like that, which is another reason why your side lost the election. 

This is meaningless. The 14th amendment was specifically designed to make formerly enslaved people citizens and to make all citizens equal under the law; of course it wouldn't be in the "original spirit" of a document that enshrined slavery.

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2. No comrade, you're wrong - again. lol. If we were actually following the 2nd Amendment, citizens would be armed and well regulated in case a tyrant took over, or Antifa sluts like you got out of control. And to be quite frank, the militias of that time had muskets just like the military had muskets. Technically, we should be packing M4 carbines, just like what the military has. 

Yes: the second amendment was about well-regulated militias, not fat f*ck cosplayers openly carrying AR15s in COSTCO, you dumb jackoff.

 

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All persons born of citizens or all persons naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. All persons born of non-citizens in the United States are not citizens. 

That is how it should read, and I suspect we will get to that sooner rather than later.  

You will die without seeing this come to pass 🥳