Congrats Trump Fans

[Black Dog]

11 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Because smart people open borders, kill defenseless human beings, and jack up prices on everything for no intelligent reason.  

Stupid people think there are simple solutions to complex problems and a guy who can't string a sentence together is going to be the one to solve them. You are one of those stupid people.

[Deluge]

1 minute ago, Black Dog said:

Stupid people think there are simple solutions to complex problems and a guy who can't string a sentence together is going to be the one to solve them. You are one of those stupid people.

REALLY stupid people use an excuse like that to keep doing the same stupid shit. 

Your reign of wokeness is over, Mr. Marx.  

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Has anyone mentioned either?

So what's he going to cut - who's going to be unleashed?  We hear the same thing here without anything specific to make it clear what it means.

There just seems to be this assumption that a conservative government is by default more limited, efficient, effective and competent.

Cuz...common sense?

[impartialobserver]

I predicted that Trump would win two years ago. The margin was about what I thought it would be. And with that, I bid you adieu. Lets hope that 2028 produces better candidates. 

[Nationalist]

21 minutes ago, User said:

Where did anyone say they would dismantle the administrative state entirely as you are claiming here?

 

They didn't...the pup is just having a good whine.

[Nationalist]

19 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So what's he going to cut - who's going to be unleashed?  We hear the same thing here without anything specific to make it clear what it means.

There just seems to be this assumption that a conservative government is by default more limited, efficient, effective and competent.

Cuz...common sense?

I'd be guessing but I bet the Keystone will finish, land leases for drilling will be forthcoming, I think the education system will get a face-lift, home building regulations should be slashed, but I'm just spitballing. I'm sure there's more.

Hey...how many days do you think Garland and Wray have left?

[Black Dog]

27 minutes ago, User said:

Where did anyone say they would dismantle the administrative state entirely as you are claiming here?

It's quite remarkable how you are so politically engaged and yet so completely ignorant of what your party represents and what they plan to do. I suppose it's a team sport for you.

[User]

12 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

It's quite remarkable how you are so politically engaged and yet so completely ignorant of what your party represents and what they plan to do. I suppose it's a team sport for you.

No, I just don't believe your BS. You lie and mischaracterize what is said. 

[Nationalist]

15 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

It's quite remarkable how you are so politically engaged and yet so completely ignorant of what your party represents and what they plan to do. I suppose it's a team sport for you.

Lol...can you be any more hypocritical?

[eyeball]

56 minutes ago, User said:

Where did anyone say they would dismantle the administrative state entirely as you are claiming here?

What does unleashed mean to you in the context of the economy? It actually sounds more aggressive than simply getting out of it's way. 

What role is there for an administrative state to play when doing these things? Enforcement comes to mind, getting people out of the economy's way by unleashing the power of the state against them for example. 

The use of force to make America great definitely seems to be on Trump's agenda - he's tied rounding up immigrants to improving the economic prospects of America. Do you imagine this rounding up process will be a benign exercise in love and compassion?

I suspect all this unleashing will be fairly brutal as well, if not to people then certainly to the environment the economy is unleashed on.

[eyeball]

Maybe Trump could slap a military tariff on Canadian imports to ensure we don't welch on our 2% of GDP commitment.

Make America pay for it. 👍

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Black Dog said:

What does that have to do with the glaring contradictions of his promises? Don't worry: I don't expect an intelligent response from you.

 

You were told that your stupidity and baseless accusations we're going to cost the democrats the election.

Now that you've lost the election you're back with baseless comments and stupidity

. Nobody is buying your crap. You are on the wrong side here. It is you who are in fact making bad choices and now doubling down on them.

I doubt very much trump will be perfect, but you're sad bizarre little attempts to twist what he said into some sort of contradiction is pathetic. Nobody bought that on voting day,  nobody's buying it today

[Black Dog]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You were told that your stupidity and baseless accusations we're going to cost the democrats the election.

Now that you've lost the election you're back with baseless comments and stupidity

. Nobody is buying your crap. You are on the wrong side here. It is you who are in fact making bad choices and now doubling down on them.

I doubt very much trump will be perfect, but you're sad bizarre little attempts to twist what he said into some sort of contradiction is pathetic. Nobody bought that on voting day,  nobody's buying it today

So you think there's no contradiction is promising to make the economy better and things more affordable while also promising to deport vast numbers of workers and enact inflationary tariffs? You are quite literally retarded.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

I'd be guessing but I bet the Keystone will finish, land leases for drilling will be forthcoming...

For sure...

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

I think the education system will get a face-lift

I wonder why any really unleashed self respecting capitalist wouldn't just privatize the education system and make people who use it pay for it, like healthcare. Why should I have to pay for it?

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

home building regulations should be slashed,

Where, how, whose regulations? These are almost all in the jurisdiction of local regulations that municipal and local governments administer. You figure the US. federal administrative state should be unleashed to get these out of the way?

Will people be allowed to do whatever they want to make a buck with their property?

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Black Dog said:

So you think there's no contradiction is promising to make the economy better and things more affordable while also promising to deport vast numbers of workers and enact inflationary tariffs? You are quite literally retarded.

I think the devil's in the details and that it's not a contradiction at all inherently. 

And everybody knows the truth of it which is why you lost. Trump's economy will be fine, once he recovers from The mess Biden has left him. If you knew anything about what you were talking about you'd realize that having those people in country actually cost a ton of money so the difference between kicking them out and paying to do that and paying for them to stay is actually less than you think

Watch and learn. And maybe if you use your brain a bit you can make suggestions to the democrats to be better next time or else it'll be another 4 years with JD Vance in power

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

 

I wonder why any really unleashed self respecting capitalist wouldn't just privatize the education system and make people who use it pay for it, like healthcare. Why should I have to pay for it?

 

You just described the first nations residential school system in Canada. 

 

Anyway I see you're  numbering yourself amongst the bitter losers This morning

 

[Black Dog]

15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I think the devil's in the details and that it's not a contradiction at all inherently. 

Its only not a contradiction if you are completely ignorant of the degree to which the American economy depends on immigrant labour and the fact that tariffs are inherently inflationary.

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And everybody knows the truth of it which is why you lost. Trump's economy will be fine, once he recovers from The mess Biden has left him

You mean one of the best performing economies in the G7 and the entire world? 

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If you knew anything about what you were talking about you'd realize that having those people in country actually cost a ton of money so the difference between kicking them out and paying to do that and paying for them to stay is actually less than you think

Huh, I guess you are completely ignorant of the degree to which the American economy depends on immigrant labour as well as the extent to which they contribute to the economy through taxes and spending.

Edited November 6, 2024 by Black Dog

[Nationalist]

16 minutes ago, eyeball said:

For sure...

I wonder why any really unleashed self respecting capitalist wouldn't just privatize the education system and make people who use it pay for it, like healthcare. Why should I have to pay for it?

Where, how, whose regulations? These are almost all in the jurisdiction of local regulations that municipal and local governments administer. You figure the US. federal administrative state should be unleashed to get these out of the way?

Will people be allowed to do whatever they want to make a buck with their property?

The current education system has failed. It needs a complete rework.

Any federal regulations in the way need to be looked at. Those locally can be dealt with via federal grant management. 

 

[CdnFox]

51 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Its only not a contradiction if you are completely ignorant of the degree to which the American economy depends on immigrant labour and the fact that tariffs are inherently inflationary.

Not even a little bit. I'm well aware of how it works and I'm well aware of the rather amusing and constant democrat position that if you don't have all of these slave labor people the economy will crash   

Watch and learn.

 

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You mean one of the best performing economies in the G7 and the entire world? 

But it isn't, and the people know that. Turns out the job numbers were faked and it was about half as many new jobs as previously thought. Some of the other data was faked as well and things aren't as good as they said they were. And at the end of the day people already knew that. You could lie to your heart's content but when people can't afford food they don't care about the figures.

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Huh, I guess you are completely ignorant of the degree to which the American economy depends on immigrant labour as well as the extent to which they contribute to the economy through taxes and spending.

Sorry kiddo it's you who are ignorant. Legitimate immigration is still going to happen. But I love the democrat argument is that if America doesn't have slave labor they can't survive. Perhaps you think this is 1860s and you live in one of the southern states?

The people are quite aware that what you're saying is bullshit. Hell,  the Latino vote came out for trump.

You can't bullshit people 24/7 and expect to be taken as a credible argument.

[Black Dog]

20 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Not even a little bit. I'm well aware of how it works and I'm well awa"re of the rather amusing and constant democrat position that if you don't have all of these slave labor people the economy will crash   Watch and learn.

Me: "Removing the labour force from several key sectors including agriculture, construction, hospitality would be bad for those sectors and the economy at large."

You: "Nuh uh!""

Real convincing stuff.

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But it isn't, and the people know that. Turns out the job numbers were faked and it was about half as many new jobs as previously thought. Some of the other data was faked as well and things aren't as good as they said they were. And at the end of the day people already knew that.

Mr. Facts and Logic when the facts and logic don't square with his beliefs: "the facts and logic are fake." Can't make this shit up.

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You could lie to your heart's content but when people can't afford food they don't care about the figures.

There's been some interesting work done by Pew that shows people's beliefs about the economy at large are quite often divorced from their personal financial circumstances and shaped by their partisan alignment. IOW: it's vibes.

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Sorry kiddo it's you who are ignorant. Legitimate immigration is still going to happen. But I love the democrat argument is that if America doesn't have slave labor they can't survive. Perhaps you think this is 1860s and you live in one of the southern states?

"nuh uh!"

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

I hope his tough foreign policy will end the wat and brings democracy to those under tyranny.

He's definitely going to try to end the war, but I don't know if he can bring democracy anywhere.

Maybe he can try a "Make Gaza Beautiful Again" slogan to chase out Hamas, and make the mullahs in Iran look bad.

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Me: "Removing the labour force from several key sectors including agriculture, construction, hospitality would be bad for those sectors and the economy at large."

You: "Nuh uh!""

Real convincing stuff.

Mr. Facts and Logic when the facts and logic don't square with his beliefs: "the facts and logic are fake." Can't make this shit up.

There's been some interesting work done by Pew that shows people's beliefs about the economy at large are quite often divorced from their personal financial circumstances and shaped by their partisan alignment. IOW: it's vibes.

"nuh uh!"

You  WAAAHA WAHHH WAHAAAAAAAHAHH

Sane people:   Your comments aren't accurate and as you'll see it's not hard to address that. 

You  ME BIG MADDDDD CAN"T BACK UP WHAT I SAAAAAAYYYYY   NEED SLAVE LABOUR!!!!!

Me:  Sure kid    Sit back, you'll see. 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

 

Hey...how many days do you think Garland and Wray have left?

What time is it right now?

[Black Dog]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You  WAAAHA WAHHH WAHAAAAAAAHAHH

Sane people:   Your comments aren't accurate and as you'll see it's not hard to address that. 

You  ME BIG MADDDDD CAN"T BACK UP WHAT I SAAAAAAYYYYY   NEED SLAVE LABOUR!!!!!

Me:  Sure kid    Sit back, you'll see. 

"You'll see" is not an argument you dumb c*nt. 

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

"You'll see" is not an argument you dumb c*nt. 

I don't normally present arguments too angry chihuahuas  

You're not emotionally capable of understanding or examining the issue dispassionately and reasonably. There's no point in spelling it out to you, it will be easier to wait till after the fact and try and walk you through it then.

Hopefully by then you'll have gotten over being so buthurt for being an absolute loser backing a party of absolute losers who absolutely lost. But we'll see

[Nationalist]

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I don't normally present arguments too angry chihuahuas  

You're not emotionally capable of understanding or examining the issue dispassionately and reasonably. There's no point in spelling it out to you, it will be easier to wait till after the fact and try and walk you through it then.

Hopefully by then you'll have gotten over being so buthurt for being an absolute loser backing a party of absolute losers who absolutely lost. But we'll see

Absolutely!