Harris Rejects Jesus

[robosmith]

10 hours ago, Deluge said:

Jesus said render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and that's about as political as he got. 

The rest of his mission was teaching people how to "do unto others" which is something you psychopaths hate. 

Wrong. That is the MAGA "America First" CULT. You worship Trump who worships ONLY HIMSELF.

10 hours ago, Deluge said:

Jesus teaches to fear God and keep His commandments. Do you "fear God and keep His commandments", wokejob?

Irrelevant. I am not a typical Democrat and that is of what I spoke.

10 hours ago, Deluge said:

Of course you don't, and yet here you are, a filthy heathen, trying to teach a Christian about Christ. lol

You're not a Christian cause you HATE the non-MAGA CULT like me.

[robosmith]

9 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

What does this have to do with Harris?

She doesn't hate Jesus because Jesus was a leftist.

Just like I don't hate Jesus. He did in fact have many good ideas other than believing in the mythical almighty. Duh

 

9 hours ago, Deluge said:

Your general view on things is what's not real. Get your head out of the Left's ass. 

Says the guy who believes nothing but BULLSHIT.

8 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Huh...at this point...I'd like to offer Kamala a bigger shovel...

To bury herself with.

What a dunce.

^Speaking of hating the non-MAGA CULT. 🤮

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Who made Gawd...such a silly question. 

Look at your family...you see Gawd.

Tonight...look up at the stars...you see Gawd.

You owe your perverted narrow-minded ass...to Gawd.

All of creation...that which IS...is Gawd.

Yes Pup. That means the universe itself...is Gawd. Is alive. But each of us has free will. A curse as much as a blessing. 'cause when we pass out of this corporeal existence, we have a choice to make.

Do you believe...or not.

Should you choose "not"...you will indeed die.

So when that time comes...Young Pup...I'd advise you to believe. 

Yes, you should believe in god because you understand NOTHING, and that's what the supremely IGNORANT DO.

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

You know, she did this the day after snubbing the Catholic's charity dinner. She wouldn't pick Shapiro, presumably, because he's Jewish. It makes you wonder what drives her morale compass.

So you believe an anti-Semitic married a Jewish man. That is just STUPID. 

55 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Delusional...

Extremely....

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

She doesn't hate Jesus because Jesus was a leftist.

Just like I don't hate Jesus. He did in fact have many good ideas other than believing in the mythical almighty. Duh

Jesus wasn't a leftist or a conservative.

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

So you believe an anti-Semitic married a Jewish man. That is just STUPID.

Name one good reason to pick Tampon Tim over Shapiro.

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

Yes, you should believe in god because you understand NOTHING, and that's what the supremely IGNORANT DO.

Lol...robo...you're one soul eternity probably won't miss.

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...robo...you're one soul eternity probably won't miss.

Thats a very un-Christian thing to say. 

[SkyHigh]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...robo...you're one soul eternity probably won't miss.

Neuroscience has pretty much determined that the soul is nothing more than a religious construct and is not tied to reality 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Thats a very un-Christian thing to say. 

I'm not a Christian. 

[Nationalist]

34 minutes ago, SkyHigh said:

Neuroscience has pretty much determined that the soul is nothing more than a religious construct and is not tied to reality 

Then don't believe. It is, after all, your choice.

[SkyHigh]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Then don't believe. It is, after all, your choice.

Of course one is free to believe anything they want and yes the brain is something that scientists are just beginning to explore, but history has shown us that the more we discover, the less we need a "god" to explain.

The thing is that by simply using the extensive research on traumatic brain injuries (There are many other examples) science has shown that a person's, skills, attitude, preferences, interests, tastes,morals religious beliefs (for and against) etc , etc, etc,etc,.,(so everything we would consider a soul) can drastically change based solely on physical damage to the organ, but if none of these fit your definition of a soul , I invite you to clarify 

[Deluge]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

1. Wrong. That is the MAGA "America First" CULT. You worship Trump who worships ONLY HIMSELF.

2. Irrelevant. 

3. You're not a Christian cause you HATE the non-MAGA CULT like me.

1. Wrong. You are a liar, and an enemy to this country. The democrat party has been compromised. 

2. Your LIFE is irrelevant. You have no status here. 

3. I don't hate anyone, but I do hate your Satanic thinking. You need to repent. 

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

Says the guy who believes nothing but BULLSHIT.

Another brainless slice of drivel from the forum's leading wokejob.

[SkyHigh]

19 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

That statement is about as anti-Jesus as you can get. We are supposed to Love God, not fear It

No, you just don't understand. Like Steven Crowder wife, you must fear god to show you love him. Hahaha 

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, SkyHigh said:

Of course one is free to believe anything they want and yes the brain is something that scientists are just beginning to explore, but history has shown us that the more we discover, the less we need a "god" to explain.

The thing is that by simply using the extensive research on traumatic brain injuries (There are many other examples) science has shown that a person's, skills, attitude, preferences, interests, tastes,morals religious beliefs (for and against) etc , etc, etc,etc,.,(so everything we would consider a soul) can drastically change based solely on physical damage to the organ, but if none of these fit your definition of a soul , I invite you to clarify 

Much of your basis for making a determination, are corporeal, thus not completely relevant. 

You don't have to believe. And I know how hard it is to wrap your head around. But my life has had a few rather...interesting experiences...and I know there are additional realms for existence and discovery.

But to try to understand it by your reasoning...indeed we are just beginning to explore the capabilities of our brain...and our mind. We are anchored to the physical universe. Perhaps by our own doing too.

There's a reason for everything.

[SkyHigh]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

You don't have to believe. And I know how hard it is to wrap your head around. But my life has had a few rather...interesting experiences...and I know there are additional realms for existence and discovery.

Let me be clear I will never denigrate someone's beliefs nor discount any experiences they claim to have had. 

I think our impasse (in this case at least) is a question of metaphysics. I personally have no time for metaphysics because I consider myself a methodological naturalist, so if it's not measurable, observable and/or quantifiable, it is not part of my world view. I'm not saying that there is nothing that isn't natural, just that it doesn't factor into my beliefs.

I'm not expecting you to give out any personal information you're not comfortable with, but I do wonder by what method did you determine that your experiences were of a supernatural nature or demonstrate these "additional realms"

[Rebound]

8 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Jesus wasn't a leftist or a conservative.

What is it about Jesus that appeals to you?

He wasn’t white. 

He was a foreigner.  
He forgave people. 
The government definitely didn’t like him. 
He preached about love. 
 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, SkyHigh said:

Let me be clear I will never denigrate someone's beliefs nor discount any experiences they claim to have had. 

I think our impasse (in this case at least) is a question of metaphysics. I personally have no time for metaphysics because I consider myself a methodological naturalist, so if it's not measurable, observable and/or quantifiable, it is not part of my world view. I'm not saying that there is nothing that isn't natural, just that it doesn't factor into my beliefs.

I'm not expecting you to give out any personal information you're not comfortable with, but I do wonder by what method did you determine that your experiences were of a supernatural nature or demonstrate these "additional realms"

I saw it...saw though the veil.

Trust me...there's a reason our consciousness isn't privy to it.

[SkyHigh]

6 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I saw it...saw though the veil.

Trust me...there's a reason our consciousness isn't privy to it.

So , no methodology?

I trust that you believe that, but you've provided nothing that I, or anyone else could use to confirm if your beliefs are tethered to reality.

I don't think there's anything my "consciousness" is not privy to, as consciousness is simply a result of neurons firing.

[Aristides]

Interesting that the US was founded by people escaping from European religious intolerance. Now the situation is reversed.

[gatomontes99]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

What is it about Jesus that appeals to you?

He wasn’t white. 

He was a foreigner.  
He forgave people. 
The government definitely didn’t like him. 
He preached about love. 
 

Wow. Such a hate-filled question. Would you actually accept any answer I gave? No. Not unless it comported to your bigoted beliefs.

But, I shouldn't pass up an opportunity to share my testimony.

I suppose the lazy and true answer of everything wouldn't satisfy anyone. The first, and most important aspect would be his message of love your neighbor as yourself. It is such a simple statement with such complex implications. If you love someone else as yourself than your treat their needs as your own. So you would absolutely prioritize their needs over your wants and literally feed them, cloth them, shelter them as you would yourself. But it is impossible to do that for everyone, so how do you draw the line? That is a tough answer, but I will say this, I am not perfect at it by any means.

That leads me to the second message, we aren't perfect. We never will be. That is OK. We can and should ask for forgiveness.  Forgiveness will be granted to is if we are truly repentant. That's another hard goal to reach. We all give in to sins and those sins do have a reward in this life. Wanting God's forgiveness over the reward of sin isn't easy. We can get there, though.

That brings me to my last point, self-improvement. Self-improvement is an underlying theme that isn't explicity talked about often, but it is extremely important. We are all born broken and incomplete. We can fix our sins and do better in pursuit of the perfection Jesus showed us. We can never get there though. And we are not supposed to. Rather, we are supposed to strive for perfection, achieve some successes and, God willing, help others to improve along the way. That is my job in this life. I am promised that the struggles of today will be the glory of tomorrow. I do not know what that entails, exactly. All I know is that my life is important to those I am in contact with. I can either be a force for good or not. I'll do my best to be that force for good and when I fail, I'll seek forgiveness and do my best to improve.

That is what appeals to me about Jesus and His word. Now, commence with your hate-filled retort.

Edited October 19, 2024 by gatomontes99

[Deluge]

3 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

Neuroscience has pretty much determined that the soul is nothing more than a religious construct and is not tied to reality 

I wouldn't put much stock into anti-Christian thinking. It turns people into insufferable a$$holes. 

[SkyHigh]

7 minutes ago, Deluge said:

I wouldn't put much stock into anti-Christian thinking. It turns people into insufferable a$$holes. 

Oh, is that what happened to you?

[Nationalist]

23 minutes ago, SkyHigh said:

So , no methodology?

I trust that you believe that, but you've provided nothing that I, or anyone else could use to confirm if your beliefs are tethered to reality.

I don't think there's anything my "consciousness" is not privy to, as consciousness is simply a result of neurons firing.

Yes. I trust my senses.

Don't you?

[SkyHigh]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Yes. I trust my senses.

Don't you?

None of the five senses can detect the supernatural and even if they could how do you know your senses can be trusted.

I use empirical evidence, that corresponds to reality, what empirical evidence do you use that supports these "additional realms of existence" ?