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A well-put description of the Trump’s incessant lies, most recently about Hurricane Helene. It’s not just the undisciplined ramblings a narcissist, it’s about destroying objective reality itself :

 

Donald Trump has been one of the chief sources of the disinformation that has badly hampered recovery efforts. 

Trump has claimed that the federal government is ignoring the storm’s victims, especially ones in Republican areas, and that the government is handing out only $750 in aid (in fact, the initial emergency payment for food and groceries is $750, but there are multiple grants available for home rebuilding up to a total of $42,500, the upper limit set by Congress). He has also claimed—falsely—that the Federal Emergency Management Agency is out of money to help because the administration spent all its money on Ukraine and undocumented immigrants.

Trump’s lies are not errors. They are part of a well-documented strategy to overturn democracy by using modern media to create a false political world. Voters begin to base their political decisions on that fake image, rather than on reality, and are manipulated into giving up control of their government to an authoritarian. 
 

“The Democrats don’t matter,” Bannon told a reporter in 2018. “The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with sh*t.” Keeping listeners constantly trying to defend what is real from what is not destroys their ability to make sense of the world. Many people turn to a strongman who promises to create order. Others will get so exhausted they simply give up. As scholar of totalitarianism Hannah Arendt noted, authoritarians use this technique to destabilize a population.

In his autobiography Mein Kampf, or “My Struggle,” Adolf Hitler wrote that people were more likely to believe a giant lie than a little one because they were willing to tell small lies in their own lives but “would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.” Since they could not conceive of telling “colossal untruths…they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.” He went on: “Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.”


Now, though, their lies about the federal response to Hurricane Helene show that they are completely committed to disinformation. As Will Bunch noted today in the Philadelphia Inquirer, when Vance lied again at the vice presidential debate about the legal status of the Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio, and complained when moderator Margaret Brennan corrected him, he gave up the whole game. “Margaret,” Vance said, “the rules were that you guys weren’t going to fact-check.” He continued to argue until the moderators cut his microphone. 

Bunch points out that MAGA Republicans insist on the right to lie, considering any fact-checking “censorship,” a position to which Vance pivoted when Minnesota governor Tim Walz asked him if Trump won the 2020 election.   

Just as Russian political theorists advocated to overturn democracy, MAGA Republicans have created an alternative political reality, aided in large part by the disinformation spread on social media by X owner and Trump supporter Elon Musk. 
 

 

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/october-6-2024

 

 

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20 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Are you the same Cannuck that posts on that forum run by Petros in Regina? Is Boomer still there?

NOT me.  Does he/she misspell with 2 x n as I do?

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1 minute ago, Hodad said:

No Trump supporter should ever EVER throw stones about "word salad." OMG, he makes Debate Biden look sharp as a tack.

He's dying. Look at all the bronze make up he wears. It's far more noticeable than 4 years ago. With his drug addiction, and increasing issues with dementia, there is no way Trump will last until 2029. 

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On 10/8/2024 at 1:38 PM, Yakuda said:

I sound like you huh? 

I have no facts?

Here are some facts:

FACT: Donald Trump is a rapist. 
FACT: Donald Trump does not go to church. 
FACT: Donald Trump could not recall one single verse from the Bible. 
FACT: Donald Trump has been indicted for over 100 felonies. 
FACT: Donald Trump has been convicted of 34 felonies. 
FACT: Donald Trump paid $25 million to settle his Trump University fraud lawsuit. 
FACT: Trump has lost over $500 million in fraud disgorgement penalties. 
FACT: Donald Trump cheated on all three of his wives   

I could keep going, but it’s quite a list already. 

@reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”

 

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5 minutes ago, Rebound said:

I have no facts?

Here are some facts:

FACT: Donald Trump is a rapist. 
FACT: Donald Trump does not go to church. 
FACT: Donald Trump could not recall one single verse from the Bible. 
FACT: Donald Trump has been indicted for over 100 felonies. 
FACT: Donald Trump has been convicted of 34 felonies. 
FACT: Donald Trump paid $25 million to settle his Trump University fraud lawsuit. 
FACT: Trump has lost over $500 million in fraud disgorgement penalties. 
FACT: Donald Trump cheated on all three of his wives   

I could keep going, but it’s quite a list already. 

You have some facts there and most are irrelevant. You can break your arm patting yourself on the back, it means nothing to me. You have no idea why trump ever got elected in the first place and you're even more clueless now. I dont completely blame you though because you're just a parrot. 

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11 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

You have some facts there and most are irrelevant. You can break your arm patting yourself on the back, it means nothing to me. You have no idea why trump ever got elected in the first place and you're even more clueless now. I dont completely blame you though because you're just a parrot. 

Look… we all understand that you’ve only got the brains of a 6 year-old, so I’ll spell it out in tiny words:

The thread says on top: “Trump is a conman and a fraud”.

And you said I have no facts. 
So I gave you facts, such as the $25 million Trump paid to settle a FRAUD lawsuit and the $500 million he was fined for FRAUD and the 34 felony convictions of BUSINESS FRAUD.

See? I made claim of fraud, I gave you facts. BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP IS A CONMAN AND A FRAUD. 
 

The devil’s greatest trick was convincing the world he doesn’t exist. Well… this guy exists.  He may have conned the fools but he sure hasn’t conned me. 

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@reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”

 

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4 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Look… we all understand that you’ve only got the brains of a 6 year-old, so I’ll spell it out in tiny words:

The thread says on top: “Trump is a conman and a fraud”.

And you said I have no facts. 
So I gave you facts, such as the $25 million Trump paid to settle a FRAUD lawsuit and the $500 million he was fined for FRAUD and the 34 felony convictions of BUSINESS FRAUD.

See? I made claim of fraud, I gave you facts. BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP IS A CONMAN AND A FRAUD. 
 

The devil’s greatest trick was convincing the world he doesn’t exist. Well… this guy exists.  He may have conned the fools but he sure hasn’t conned me. 

And he's STILL in the race. That has to go up your asses a mile and a half sideways. The level of your stupidity is mind boggling. 

Is not so much that you people hate America and Americans that bothers me it's the pretending that you do which is what aggravates normal people. I know you don't comprehend that but again I can't expect much from parrots. 

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9 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

And he's STILL in the race. That has to go up your asses a mile and a half sideways. The level of your stupidity is mind boggling. 

 

Why are you excited that a conman and a fraud is still in the race? That's the weird part: the politics of spite.

"Take this, Libbies! We're going to elect a morally repugnant, reprehensible, liar, scammer cheater and fraud! How do you like them apples?"

Well, no I don't like them very much at all. No sane person would. The jokes not on "libbies." The joke's on America. 

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13 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Why are you excited that a conman and a fraud is still in the race? That's the weird part: the politics of spite.

"Take this, Libbies! We're going to elect a morally repugnant, reprehensible, liar, scammer cheater and fraud! How do you like them apples?"

Well, no I don't like them very much at all. No sane person would. The jokes not on "libbies." The joke's on America. 

What leads you to believe I am "excited" about it? Talking to you people is sometimes a real chore especially when you make claims with no evidence. If you can legitimately explain yourself on that point then we'll have to move onto the "spite" comment but I'm not certain you can address the first point let alone the second, but heres to hoping. 

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7 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

What leads you to believe I am "excited" about it? Talking to you people is a real chore when you make claims with no evidence. if you can legitimately explain yourself then we'll have to move into the "spite" comment but I'm not certain you can address the first point let alone the second but here to hoping. 

Frankly, the glee comes across loud and clear in the tone of your writing. 

"And he's STILL in the race. That has to go up your asses a mile and a half sideways."

Can you honestly say that this sentiment isn't an expression of pleasure? You find enjoyment in the fact that Trump being competitively in the race is annoying to people to whom you are politically opposed, right?

It's rather a case of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. The "joke's" not on liberals, it's on America. This is what we've come to. 

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Just now, Hodad said:

Frankly, the glee comes across loud and clear in the tone of your writing. 

"And he's STILL in the race. That has to go up your asses a mile and a half sideways."

Can you honestly say that this sentiment isn't an expression of pleasure? You find enjoyment in the fact that Trump being competitively in the race is annoying to people to whom you are politically opposed, right?

First of all he is STILL in the race after 8 years of you people doing all you can to discredit him. Next it must go up your asses a mile and a half sideways because you people are resorting to assassination attempts to get rid of him. Talk about spite. That goes right over head doesnt it? And if trump had been assassinated we know how excited you people who have been. I can't respect you people just based on your stupidity and hypocrisy. 

Heres the thing, whenever I have a viable alternative to trump I have always and always will vote for the alternative. I have never voted for trump in the primaries but in the past 2 elections and this one coming up trump is the only viable alternative.

 

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Just now, Yakuda said:

First of all he is STILL in the race after 8 years of you people doing all you can to discredit him. Next it must go up your asses a mile and a half sideways because you people are resorting to assassination attempts to get rid of him. Talk about spite. That goes right over head doesnt it? And if trump had been assassinated we know how excited you people who have been. I can't respect you people just based on your stupidity and hypocrisy. 

Heres the thing, whenever I have a viable alternative to trump I have always and always will vote for the alternative. I have never voted for trump in the primaries but in the past 2 elections and this one coming up trump is the only viable alternative.

 

So can you answer the question plainly or not? Do you not take pleasure in the fact that Trump's political viability annoys those you view as political enemies? 

And sorry, but two Republicans (or Republican-ish) kooks have tried to shoot Trump. One a registered Republican who wanted to shoot Trump for reasons that are not clear. The other not registered with either party, but a self professed Trump voter in 2016 and active supporter of Haley and Ramaswamy in the primaries this year, who was angry about Trump specifically over his position on Ukraine. 

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2 minutes ago, Hodad said:

So can you answer the question plainly or not? Do you not take pleasure in the fact that Trump's political viability annoys those you view as political enemies? 

And sorry, but two Republicans (or Republican-ish) kooks have tried to shoot Trump. One a registered Republican who wanted to shoot Trump for reasons that are not clear. The other not registered with either party, but a self professed Trump voter in 2016 and active supporter of Haley and Ramaswamy in the primaries this year, who was angry about Trump specifically over his position on Ukraine. 

SpinDizzy.

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2 minutes ago, Hodad said:

So can you answer the question plainly or not? Do you not take pleasure in the fact that Trump's political viability annoys those you view as political enemies? 

And sorry, but two Republicans (or Republican-ish) kooks have tried to shoot Trump. One a registered Republican who wanted to shoot Trump for reasons that are not clear. The other not registered with either party, but a self professed Trump voter in 2016 and active supporter of Haley and Ramaswamy in the primaries this year, who was angry about Trump specifically over his position on Ukraine. 

To the same extent that you take pleasure in referring to him as a rapist, felon, and a conman. Do you or do you not take pleasure in that? Time for you to play by your own rules. 

And you would have been as excited as a prepubescent boy seeing a naked woman if trump had been assassinated. You can try and deny it but that you make you a liar. 

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11 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

To the same extent that you take pleasure in referring to him as a rapist, felon, and a conman. Do you or do you not take pleasure in that? Time for you to play by your own rules. 

And you would have been as excited as a prepubescent boy seeing a naked woman if trump had been assassinated. You can try and deny it but that you make you a liar. 

Donald Trump is, factually and legally proven, a conman, a rapist and a fraud. And a proven liar and a proven adulterer. He believes he’s entitled to grab women’s crotches whenever he wants. He bragged that he went into the dressing rooms of teenaged, underage beauty contestants to ogle at them in the nude. 
 

Donald Trump has no morality. 

@reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”

 

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6 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Donald Trump is, factually and legally proven, a conman, a rapist and a fraud. And a proven liar and a proven adulterer. He believes he’s entitled to grab women’s crotches whenever he wants. He bragged that he went into the dressing rooms of teenaged, underage beauty contestants to ogle at them in the nude. 
 

Donald Trump has no morality. 

And hes STILL in the race. I know you're limited in your ability to examine yourself because you have for so long now been told how morally superior you are to everyone else but you people partially responsible for trump. I know that confuses you for the aforementioned reason but it's true. I know you don't get it and that's not entirely your fault but at some point you need to wake up. 

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Just now, Yakuda said:

To the same extent that you take pleasure in referring to him as a rapist, felon, and a conman. Do you or do you not take pleasure in that? Time for you to play by your own rules. 

And you would have been as excited as a prepubescent boy seeing a naked woman if trump had been assassinated. You can try and deny it but that you make you a liar. 

You didn't answer, so I'm taking that as an acknowledgement. 

To be clear, he is indisputably a felon and a con man, and was found liable for "rape" by a jury in civil court. And I do get a sense of satisfaction when justice is served to bad people.  But in terms of pointing it out on a forum or in a conversation no, I don't get pleasure from any of that. I am disgusted. I find it appalling. And what I really mean if I say those words is "This man is awful and repulsive. Look at the facts. He is all of those things. Why aren't you appalled as well? Do better!"

 

 

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1 hour ago, Hodad said:

You didn't answer, so I'm taking that as an acknowledgement. 

To be clear, he is indisputably a felon and a con man, and was found liable for "rape" by a jury in civil court. And I do get a sense of satisfaction when justice is served to bad people.  But in terms of pointing it out on a forum or in a conversation no, I don't get pleasure from any of that. I am disgusted. I find it appalling. And what I really mean if I say those words is "This man is awful and repulsive. Look at the facts. He is all of those things. Why aren't you appalled as well? Do better!"

 

 

You don't read so well do you? I will try AGAIN, I take as much pleasure as you do in calling him as a rapist, a felon and a fraud. I'll take your ignorance as an acknowledgement. 

You take great pleasure in it but you have a belief you hold some high moral ground. You're a fool. As to the rape, you mean the rape that happened when? The supposed victim couldn't even tell us what year it happened. And the state if NY changed the law so the charges could be filed. You're a pathetic sap. 

You're anger and you're hatred has created trump and you disgust me more than trump does. You know why? Trump at least is what he is. You on the other hand, like most leftists, pretend to care about things you don't actually care about. You're a liar and a hypocrite. Id rather have someone tell me they are going to rob then to have a "friend" like you that would steal from me behind my back. I have no respect for your kind. You can't be trusted. 

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1 hour ago, Yakuda said:

You don't read so well do you? I will try AGAIN, I take as much pleasure as you do in calling him as a rapist, a felon and a fraud. I'll take your ignorance as an acknowledgement. 

You take great pleasure in it but you have a belief you hold some high moral ground. You're a fool. As to the rape, you mean the rape that happened when? The supposed victim couldn't even tell us what year it happened. And the state if NY changed the law so the charges could be filed. You're a pathetic sap. 

You're anger and you're hatred has created trump and you disgust me more than trump does. You know why? Trump at least is what he is. You on the other hand, like most leftists, pretend to care about things you don't actually care about. You're a liar and a hypocrite. Id rather have someone tell me they are going to rob then to have a "friend" like you that would steal from me behind my back. I have no respect for your kind. You can't be trusted. 

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