User Posted September 19, 2024 Report Posted September 19, 2024 13 minutes ago, herbie said: So you're all for the unsafe storage of firearms? Or just stretching things to make people think Harris will change the Constitution to allow entries without a warrant? Which is it? The stupid reason or the outright lie? Duhhhh to ensure my children are safe I always keep a loaded handgun under my pillow. Duhhh.... No, we think liberals like you don't give a shit about the Constitution and will just try to pass the laws and see what you can get away with. Regardless if she can get away with it or not, doesn't change the motivations behind what she wants to do. Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted September 19, 2024 Report Posted September 19, 2024 Still can't find a Democrat who feels their voice wasn't heard, so you have to manufacture the discontent all by yourself? Quote
User Posted September 19, 2024 Report Posted September 19, 2024 42 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Still can't find a Democrat who feels their voice wasn't heard, so you have to manufacture the discontent all by yourself? As he yelled into the void... Quote
Fluffypants Posted September 19, 2024 Report Posted September 19, 2024 (edited) 51 minutes ago, User said: No, we think liberals like you don't give a shit about the Constitution and will just try to pass the laws and see what you can get away with. Regardless if she can get away with it or not, doesn't change the motivations behind what she wants to do. If the Democrats ever hold all three legislative bodies again the Constitution will be a distant memory, they will eliminate the filibuster and pack the court and then the authoritarian regime of the Democrats will come to be and no one will be able to stop them. They will take everyones guns and then eliminate free speech by making it a crime to give out misinformation or disinformation but the kicker is THEY will decide what misinformation or disinformation is. Once they get the courts they will make sure that they never lose another election by passing their make it easy to cheat bill and the federal government should control elections bill. So they will be able decide who is cheating or not. If you dare even hint at that they are cheating you will be arrested for disinformation. If you think I sound like a conspiracy theorist, they already tried to kill the filibuster and pass a voting bill that pretty much makes cheating super easy and are just itching to pack the court many have admitted as such. But hey us conservatives are the threat to Democracy right? Edited September 19, 2024 by Fluffypants 2 1 Quote
Black Dog Posted September 19, 2024 Report Posted September 19, 2024 3 minutes ago, Fluffypants said: If the Democrats ever hold all three legislative bodies again the Constitution will be a distant memory, they will eliminate the filibuster and pack the court and then the authoritarian regime of the Democrats will come to be and no one will be able to stop them. Don't threaten me with a good time. Quote If you think I sound like a conspiracy theorist, they already tried to kill the filibuster and pass a voting bill that pretty much makes cheating super easy and are just itching to pack the court many have admitted as such. I love how your insane Bizzaro world version of the Dems sound way cooler than the IRL Dems. Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted September 19, 2024 Report Posted September 19, 2024 15 minutes ago, Fluffypants said: But hey us conservatives are the threat to Democracy right? You aren't conservatives. Quote
Rebound Posted September 19, 2024 Report Posted September 19, 2024 27 minutes ago, Fluffypants said: If the Democrats ever hold all three legislative bodies again the Constitution will be a distant memory, they will eliminate the filibuster and pack the court and then the authoritarian regime of the Democrats will come to be and no one will be able to stop them. They will take everyones guns and then eliminate free speech by making it a crime to give out misinformation or disinformation but the kicker is THEY will decide what misinformation or disinformation is. Once they get the courts they will make sure that they never lose another election by passing their make it easy to cheat bill and the federal government should control elections bill. So they will be able decide who is cheating or not. If you dare even hint at that they are cheating you will be arrested for disinformation. If you think I sound like a conspiracy theorist, they already tried to kill the filibuster and pass a voting bill that pretty much makes cheating super easy and are just itching to pack the court many have admitted as such. But hey us conservatives are the threat to Democracy right? It was the GOP who ended the filibuster, which has nothing to do with the Constitution. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/04/republicans-nuke-the-filibuster-to-save-neil-gorsuch/522156/ Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Fluffypants Posted September 19, 2024 Report Posted September 19, 2024 48 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Don't threaten me with a good time. I love how your insane Bizzaro world version of the Dems sound way cooler than the IRL Dems. So you like authoritarianism as long as its your side cracking the whip. Quote
robosmith Posted September 19, 2024 Report Posted September 19, 2024 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: The DNC did not play fair with RFK or the other two candidates that ran for the nomination. When Joe was forced out, the convention should have been where the electors, having consulted woth their states, debate and elect a nominee. But they couldnt do that because the feckless DNC scheduled their convention AFTER deadlines for candidates. In a fair primary, the runner up would have been the nominee, not someone that didnt get a single vote. Too bad ^YOUR OPINION means nothing wrt the DNC rules. The delegates were, as always, free to vote for anyone that was still in the running. None of the other primary contestants even threw their hat into the ring. Quote
robosmith Posted September 19, 2024 Report Posted September 19, 2024 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Why not? They've done it before? Those are not local election OFFICIALS planning to NOT certify the vote like RepubliCONS are planning NOW. Maybe FOS LIES hasn't told you about those plans, since you don't seem to know about them. 2 hours ago, Deluge said: That's unpatriotic. And since you a$$holes are as unpatriotic as it gets, it is YOUR schtick. You IGNORING HISTORY will not make it go away. Duh Quote
User Posted September 19, 2024 Report Posted September 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Rebound said: It was the GOP who ended the filibuster, which has nothing to do with the Constitution. Are you guys still pushing this lie? Republicans told Democrats if they pushed this issue for non-SCOTUS judges, there would be consequences. Quote
Hodad Posted September 19, 2024 Report Posted September 19, 2024 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: The DNC did not play fair with RFK or the other two candidates that ran for the nomination. When Joe was forced out, the convention should have been where the electors, having consulted woth their states, debate and elect a nominee. But they couldnt do that because the feckless DNC scheduled their convention AFTER deadlines for candidates. In a fair primary, the runner up would have been the nominee, not someone that didnt get a single vote. That's just nonsense. Literally anyone could have thrown their hat in the ring for nomination at the convention. 4,000 delegates at the convention voted--99% of them for Harris. Quote
User Posted September 20, 2024 Report Posted September 20, 2024 6 minutes ago, Hodad said: That's just nonsense. Literally anyone could have thrown their hat in the ring for nomination at the convention. 4,000 delegates at the convention voted--99% of them for Harris. The vote at the convention was ceremonial. The day after Biden dropped out, they changed the rules and remote voted in like a week. Any challengers had 1 week to try to secure enough delegates to even be considered. They changed the rules to rush a Harris nomination through before the convention so there wouldn't be any division or distractions by anyone being able to mount a challenge in time. Quote
Rebound Posted September 20, 2024 Report Posted September 20, 2024 1 hour ago, User said: Are you guys still pushing this lie? Republicans told Democrats if they pushed this issue for non-SCOTUS judges, there would be consequences. I have you the link dude. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
User Posted September 20, 2024 Report Posted September 20, 2024 24 minutes ago, Rebound said: I have you the link dude. The lie is pushing this narrative as if the Republicans started this. Quote
Rebound Posted September 20, 2024 Report Posted September 20, 2024 (edited) 10 minutes ago, User said: The lie is pushing this narrative as if the Republicans started this. Well… they did. I mean… your argument is that “the Democrats made them do it!” But Republicans filibustered Democrat judges for years, and when the Dems threatened to block Gorsuch, as was their right, the GOP ended the filibuster. Edited September 20, 2024 by Rebound 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
gatomontes99 Posted September 20, 2024 Author Report Posted September 20, 2024 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Too bad ^YOUR OPINION means nothing wrt the DNC rules. The delegates were, as always, free to vote for anyone that was still in the running. None of the other primary contestants even threw their hat into the ring. What ring? There was no ring. The second Joe relented to Hillary and Obama, Harris strong armed the delegates into supporting her. It was a coup. A legitimate coup. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
gatomontes99 Posted September 20, 2024 Author Report Posted September 20, 2024 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Those are not local election OFFICIALS planning to NOT certify the vote like RepubliCONS are planning NOW. Maybe FOS LIES hasn't told you about those plans, since you don't seem to know about them. There are no local election officials claiming they won't certify the vote if Trump loses. There are people that say they won't commit to certifying the vote no matter what happens. That is a reasonable position. There may be irregularities and the vote shouldn't be certified for either candidate until officials are satisfied that the votes are legitimate. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
User Posted September 20, 2024 Report Posted September 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Rebound said: Well… they did. I mean… your argument is that “the Democrats made them do it!” But Republicans filibustered Democrat judges for years, and when the Dems threatened to block Gorsuch, as was their right, the GOP ended the filibuster. So, back to your comment being a lie. The escalation started with the Democrats, they were warned. Your argument is... ignore all of that, lets pretend time began only when Republicans did it. Quote
Deluge Posted September 20, 2024 Report Posted September 20, 2024 14 hours ago, robosmith said: You IGNORING HISTORY will not make it go away. Duh Revisionist history is not real history, wokejob. I am the patriot; YOU are the marxist a$$hole, and you SHOULD be in prison for treason. Quote
Deluge Posted September 20, 2024 Report Posted September 20, 2024 20 hours ago, robosmith said: Right now the very right wing SCOTUS is the one taking rights, thus proving your generalization WRONG. What rights are they taking, pervert? Let's talk about it. Quote
Black Dog Posted September 20, 2024 Report Posted September 20, 2024 16 hours ago, Fluffypants said: So you like authoritarianism as long as its your side cracking the whip. You don't know what authoritarianism means if you think packing the court and eliminating the filibuster are authoritarian measures. Quote
Rebound Posted September 20, 2024 Report Posted September 20, 2024 14 hours ago, User said: So, back to your comment being a lie. The escalation started with the Democrats, they were warned. Your argument is... ignore all of that, lets pretend time began only when Republicans did it. That is just BULLSHlT. The fillibuster exists for a reason. So you’re saying it’s the Democrats fault for using it, even though Republicans used it over and over and over? Do you really believe your own lies? Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
User Posted September 20, 2024 Report Posted September 20, 2024 2 minutes ago, Rebound said: That is just BULLSHlT. The fillibuster exists for a reason. So you’re saying it’s the Democrats fault for using it, even though Republicans used it over and over and over? Do you really believe your own lies? Nothing Bullshit about it. Democrats used the nuclear option to kill the filibuster for non-SCOTUS judges and executive cabinet picks back in 2013, and Republicans warned them they would regret it. So... guess what? They did. I lived through this. It is all well documented. Do you need me to go get the news stories covering all this? Quote
Rebound Posted September 20, 2024 Report Posted September 20, 2024 7 minutes ago, User said: Nothing Bullshit about it. Democrats used the nuclear option to kill the filibuster for non-SCOTUS judges and executive cabinet picks back in 2013, and Republicans warned them they would regret it. So... guess what? They did. I lived through this. It is all well documented. Do you need me to go get the news stories covering all this? No, I’m telling you that in 2017, it was the Republicans who ended the filibuster, and blaming the other party for their actions is nonsense. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
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