Support for the Democratic Party is a complete rejection of Christian values in society.

[User]

2 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Whatever. He created the conditions for it to reach that point and Biden fixed his mess. If you were really concerned about lying, you certainly wouldn't be a Trumpster, so I don't feel you have any integrity on that issue anyway. But nitpick away, since that's all you've got. 

Whatever?

Just admit you lied. Since you claim to care so much about that. No? Or is it that you only care about other people lying and are just fine doing it yourself?

It is not a nitpick. You stated something false. When confronted, you lied instead of owning up to it. 

[Black Dog]

3 minutes ago, West said:

It's not. 

If in business your product starts killing a bunch of people it gets regulated or taken off the market. 

If you know that your product comes from a faulty plant in Mexico you put in safe guards to stop it. 

Nobody opposes immigration and Trump’s plan is consistent with most western nations. 

I haven't heard of any other western nations deporting 15-20 million people like Trump proposes. 

[impartialobserver]

24 minutes ago, West said:

It's not. 

If in business your product starts killing a bunch of people it gets regulated or taken off the market. 

If you know that your product comes from a faulty plant in Mexico you put in safe guards to stop it. 

Nobody opposes immigration and Trump’s plan is consistent with most western nations. 

My point is not the legality of it.. I know that you can't possibly get out of your own way. 

the point is if the end user (your relatives) has control over ingesting it or not. Being someone who was raised poor and saw a lot of drug use.. the answer is yes, they do have control. 

[West]

24 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

I haven't heard of any other western nations deporting 15-20 million people like Trump proposes. 

If you overstay your visa then you should be deported. Certainly shouldn't be able to vote in that country's elections. Don't know why that's controversial..

5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

My point is not the legality of it.. I know that you can't possibly get out of your own way. 

the point is if the end user (your relatives) has control over ingesting it or not. Being someone who was raised poor and saw a lot of drug use.. the answer is yes, they do have control. 

You'd have a point if it weren't making it's way into the schools. I have a family member who got hooked on that in grade 9. 

[impartialobserver]

1 minute ago, West said:

If you overstay your visa then you should be deported. Certainly shouldn't be able to vote in that country's elections. Don't know why that's controversial..

You'd have a point if it weren't making it's way into the schools. I have a family member who got hooked on that in grade 9. 

All drugs make their way into schools... I saw kids drinking and smoking weed in elementary school.. and that was in the mid-1980's.  The adults who make up most of the fentanyl users and fatalities.. have 100% control over what they ingest. 

[West]

14 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

All drugs make their way into schools... I saw kids drinking and smoking weed in elementary school.. and that was in the mid-1980's.  The adults who make up most of the fentanyl users and fatalities.. have 100% control over what they ingest. 

But it's making it's way into the schools. 

To sit here and tell me we have to tolerate that is bs

We also shouldn't tolerate people busting into our vehicles and tweaking out on crystal meth on our sidewalks either. 

Edited August 23, 2024 by West

[impartialobserver]

35 minutes ago, West said:

But it's making it's way into the schools. 

To sit here and tell me we have to tolerate that is bs

We also shouldn't tolerate people busting into our vehicles and tweaking out on crystal meth on our sidewalks either. 

more obfuscation. Where do I say that we should tolerate it? You are delusional to think that this is new and isolated to fentanyl. I spent 27 years in the poor part of town.. what you are whining about is old news and predates fentanyl. 

I will give you kudos for entertainment value. It is thoroughly hilarious to pretend that the only reason that you oppose immigration is because some of them bring fentanyl with them. interesting you never address the demand side of it.. But that would demand accountability. We have to blame it on them da_n spics. 

Edited August 23, 2024 by impartialobserver

[WestCanMan]

56 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

The adults who make up most of the fentanyl users and fatalities.. have 100% control over what they ingest. 

This isn't entirely true.

I'm sure that you're aware of how many scams have been run on unsuspecting adults who were prescribed highly addictive painkillers which weren't supposed to be addictive. 

[impartialobserver]

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

This isn't entirely true.

I'm sure that you're aware of how many scams have been run on unsuspecting adults who were prescribed highly addictive painkillers which weren't supposed to be addictive. 

fentanyl... Is legal but folks when they acquire it legally know how potent it is. When they get it from the black market.. they are still in control. They had to seek it out, pay for it, and then ingest it. When it is mixed with other illicit drugs, they are still in control. They can ingest the drugs regardless of its composition. I come from the trailer park.. seen far more drug use than you have. 

Edited August 23, 2024 by impartialobserver

[User]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

I haven't heard of any other western nations deporting 15-20 million people like Trump proposes. 

Most other countries seem to protect their borders more than Democrats want to do for our own, they don't have that many illegal immigrants. 

 

11 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

fentanyl... is not a prescribed drug. So yes, they have control. They have to seek it out, pay for it, and then willingly and knowingly ingest it. 

Again, not everyone who dies did so because they were willingly ingesting illegal drugs

3 people charged after death of federal prison worker who opened fentanyl-laced mail

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/3-people-charged-after-death-federal-prison-worker-112998440

[West]

43 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

more obfuscation. Where do I say that we should tolerate it? You are delusional to think that this is new and isolated to fentanyl. I spent 27 years in the poor part of town.. what you are whining about is old news and predates fentanyl. 

I will give you kudos for entertainment value. It is thoroughly hilarious to pretend that the only reason that you oppose immigration is because some of them bring fentanyl with them. interesting you never address the demand side of it.. But that would demand accountability. We have to blame it on them da_n spics. 

We were talking about immigration and cartels. The majority of fentynal comes from Mexico 

https://www.dea.gov/resources/facts-about-fentanyl

So Republicans are right to target the source. Why you want us to tolerate watching people fry their brains out and flop around in the middle of the street is beyond me. The idea that we can't criticize the drug supply because "that's racist" is dumb

[impartialobserver]

Just now, West said:

We were talking about immigration and cartels. The majority of fentynal comes from Mexico 

https://www.dea.gov/resources/facts-about-fentanyl

So Republicans are right to target the source. Why you want us to tolerate watching people fry their brains out and flop around in the middle of the street is beyond me. The idea that we can't criticize the drug supply because "that's racist" is dumb

Your simple mind is the problem.. There is supply but there is also demand. But lets not confuse you with the other side of the puzzle. 

[WestCanMan]

53 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

fentanyl... Is legal but folks when they acquire it legally know how potent it is. When they get it from the black market.. they are still in control. They had to seek it out, pay for it, and then ingest it. When it is mixed with other illicit drugs, they are still in control. They can ingest the drugs regardless of its composition. I come from the trailer park.. seen far more drug use than you have. 

Not many people started out on Fentanyl. 

Most people started off with legal prescription pain-killers for themselves, or pain-killers they got from others, or even things like cocaine that are illegal and addictive but still not as bad as Fentanyl. 

[Chrissy1979]

2 hours ago, User said:

Whatever?

Just admit you lied. Since you claim to care so much about that. No? Or is it that you only care about other people lying and are just fine doing it yourself?

It is not a nitpick. You stated something false. When confronted, you lied instead of owning up to it. 

Sure, I got a date wrong by a few months. Now just admit that Trump's mishandling of the pandemic and violent attempt at insurrection caused enough instability in the economy to cause rampant inflation, which Biden solved.

[impartialobserver]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Not many people started out on Fentanyl. 

Most people started off with legal prescription pain-killers for themselves, or pain-killers they got from others, or even things like cocaine that are illegal and addictive but still not as bad as Fentanyl. 

So would you say that the illicit drug user is in control of their consumption? If not, how are they forced to ingest it?

[User]

3 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

So would you say that the illicit drug user is in control of their consumption? If not, how are they forced to ingest it?

Why you hiding from me? 
 

answer: I’ve destroyed your bogus narrative 

[User]

20 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Sure, I got a date wrong by a few months. Now just admit that Trump's mishandling of the pandemic and violent attempt at insurrection caused enough instability in the economy to cause rampant inflation, which Biden solved.

LOL, you are still lying. 

You did not just get a date wrong. You just got done trying to say you said something you didn't, and even now, you were not wrong by a few months. It was the second year of Biden's term that the average got up to 8%. Not just a few months and even then, we are talking about the average for all of the last year Trump was in office, it was 1.2%. 

Democrats continued to spend a ton of $$$$ after Trump left office. 

 

 

[Chrissy1979]

Do you know how long it takes for the cost of political violence and unrest to shake down into grocery prices? 

[User]

Just now, Chrissy1979 said:

Do you know how long it takes for the cost of political violence and unrest to shake down into grocery prices? 

I know that you lied, then lied to cover it up, then lied again. 

Are you talking about the political violence and unrest around BLM during their summer of violence? That violence and unrest? 

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

I was referring to the inflation climate he left when he was finally voted out. Inflation doesn't just happen overnight, but when you create an environment of government incompetence and insurrectionist instability, the economy will respond and falter. He created chaos and rapid inflation was one of the results.

OMG you're even dumber than Biden. You both have no idea what causes inflation but your solution is to blame Trump. 

Inflation doesn't just appear overnight, but IT ALWAYS APPEARS when your gov't spends and creates money like a drunken sailor, and goes on a global crusade against energy, instigates a war in Europe which puts farms in Ukraine out of commission, blows up a Russian gas pipeline, etc... All of those things have a massive impact on inflation. 

Less energy on the planet. Higher cost to attain it. When every company on earth pays way more to get their energy needs met, they have to pass on that expense to their consumers.

I already explained this to you once, dunce.

If the US was creating more energy, and Russia's pipeline to Europe was working, and Russia's energy wasn't blacklisted, and Libbies in Canada and Dems in the US didn't kill of Canadian pipelines and domestic energy, inflation would have been far lower. 

You can't just spend like Biden and attack the global energy supply like Biden and start wars like Biden which lower the food supply and not suffer consequences. 

[WestCanMan]

47 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

So would you say that the illicit drug user is in control of their consumption? If not, how are they forced to ingest it?

I'd say that they're really not in control. No. 

Ask any ambulance driver from any major city and they'll tell you that when they bring addicts back from actual death the addicts wake up angry AF. Not just miffed, raging mad. Now they have to go find 3 more dicks to suck to get that high again.

And it's not rare to see that, it happens to all ambulance attendants multiple times per week.

Edited August 24, 2024 by WestCanMan

[Chrissy1979]

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

 

Inflation doesn't just appear overnight...

So maybe you can answer how long it takes for anxiety from instability and political unrest to show up in grocery shelf prices. Seems to align precisely with the peak of inflation early in Biden's term. Which was the point autism-boy above is desperately trying to avoid by obsessing on how Trumpsters so cherish the Truth. 😂 

[User]

9 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

So maybe you can answer how long it takes for anxiety from instability and political unrest to show up in grocery shelf prices. Seems to align precisely with the peak of inflation early in Biden's term. Which was the point autism-boy above is desperately trying to avoid by obsessing on how Trumpsters so cherish the Truth. 😂 

LOL, you just gonna run away from your lies?

 

[Chrissy1979]

It's funny I can tell you have autism all the way over here. 

[CouchPotato]

13 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

It's funny I can tell you have autism all the way over here. 

Lovin' the new Trump avatar. Welcome aboard the Trump Train. Toot toot!!!!!!

Edited August 24, 2024 by CouchPotato