USSS Deleted J6 Text Messages Says Whistleblower

[gatomontes99]

Why? What in the world could they be hiding?

[CdnFox]

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

[gatomontes99]

Here is the thing about J6, this bomb that was placed at the RNC and DNC was the most dangerous thing that happened that day. We might have had a VP Elect assassinated. We might have also had who knows how many injuries at either building.

So why are they hiding comms from the people involved? How is it that they can figure out that someone's grandma was milling around outside with a sign by tracking her phone, but they can't find the guy that was alone by both buildings?

Oh, the data was corrupt? And the phones just happened to accidentally get wiped that same day? Really? Man, that guy sure got really lucky! Oh and he took the subway but somehow there is no footage. We know where he got off, but there was no way of tracking him after that?

How many errors do the USSS, FBI and CIA have to make before we realize that maybe they aren't mistakes?

If they are mistakes, isn't that worse? Think about it. They failed to have acceptable video surveillance, sweep for bombs, drove Harris 20 feet from the bomb after they knew it was there, can't find his phone because the data is corrupt, can't show us what agents said because they lost their texts, can't find prints or DNA on the bombs, can't get a good image on the subway, can't find him on cams after he leaves the subway, know he drove off in a car but don't know anything about the car?

Let me tell you something. My kids could do a better job of investigating than that. You are telling me the best we have in the CIA, FBI and USSS can't do any better? If that's the case, we need a new plan. This can't possibly stand.

[Legato]

The Dems have always had this magic carpet to sweep things under.

[robosmith]

8 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Here is the thing about J6, this bomb that was placed at the RNC and DNC was the most dangerous thing that happened that day. We might have had a VP Elect assassinated. We might have also had who knows how many injuries at either building.

So why are they hiding comms from the people involved? How is it that they can figure out that someone's grandma was milling around outside with a sign by tracking her phone, but they can't find the guy that was alone by both buildings?

Oh, the data was corrupt? And the phones just happened to accidentally get wiped that same day? Really? Man, that guy sure got really lucky! Oh and he took the subway but somehow there is no footage. We know where he got off, but there was no way of tracking him after that?

How many errors do the USSS, FBI and CIA have to make before we realize that maybe they aren't mistakes?

If they are mistakes, isn't that worse? Think about it. They failed to have acceptable video surveillance, sweep for bombs, drove Harris 20 feet from the bomb after they knew it was there, can't find his phone because the data is corrupt, can't show us what agents said because they lost their texts, can't find prints or DNA on the bombs, can't get a good image on the subway, can't find him on cams after he leaves the subway, know he drove off in a car but don't know anything about the car?

Let me tell you something. My kids could do a better job of investigating than that. You are telling me the best we have in the CIA, FBI and USSS can't do any better? If that's the case, we need a new plan. This can't possibly stand.

 

7 hours ago, Legato said:

The Dems have always had this magic carpet to sweep things under.

Those phones were wiped when Trump was still POTUS. Probably per HIS ORDERS.

Did the Secret Service delete text messages on January 6th?

 

 

The watchdog said the messages were deleted after they had been requested as part of an investigation into the Jan. 6 attack. The Secret Service responded by telling AP that “the insinuation that the Secret Service maliciously deleted text messages following a request is false.”Jan 6, 2024

 

National Archives asks Secret Service to probe deleted texts ...

[gatomontes99]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

 

Those phones were wiped when Trump was still POTUS. Probably per HIS ORDERS.

Did the Secret Service delete text messages on January 6th?

 

 

The watchdog said the messages were deleted after they had been requested as part of an investigation into the Jan. 6 attack. The Secret Service responded by telling AP that “the insinuation that the Secret Service maliciously deleted text messages following a request is false.”Jan 6, 2024

 

National Archives asks Secret Service to probe deleted texts ...

According to the whistleblower, the texts were deleted.months after congress requested them?

[Nationalist]

And the house of cards continues to crumble.

It must pain Libbies horribly to realize their own support has been dedicated to traitors bent on power at any cost.

@Libbies...

You constantly whine about "lies" and attacks on democracy. Tell me...who is really lying and attacking democracy?

Edited August 6, 2024 by Nationalist

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

And the house of cards continues to crumble.

It must pain Libbies horribly to realize their own support has been dedicated to traitors bent on power at any cost.

@Libbies...

You constantly whine about "lies" and attacks on democracy. Tell me...who is really lying and attacking democracy?

WTF is happening in this thread? We have knows about the deleted text messages for years. It was a sore spot for the J6 committee. Deletions began under Trump. By the time the IG requested them in Feb (1 month into Biden admin) they were allegedly gone. Along with the relevant phone records of Chad Wolf and Ken Cucinelli and a number of DoD officials. And they were deleting this basically as Biden was being sworn in.

One would have to be at least a little suspicious that this was done to cover for Trump's activities regarding the coup memo/attempt, leading up to and during the insurrection at the capitol--and perhaps for what the Secret Service planned to do to Mike Pence. 

So, as usual, you have it ass-backward. It's still the same people as always lying and attacking democracy: team Trump. 

Edited August 6, 2024 by Hodad

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Hodad said:

WTF is happening in this thread? We have knows about the deleted text messages for years. It was a sore spot for the J6 committee. Deletions began under Trump. By the time the IG requested them in Feb (1 month into Biden admin) they were allegedly gone. Along with the relevant phone records of Chad Wolf and Ken Cucinelli and a number of DoD officials. And they were deleting this basically as Biden was being sworn in.

One would have to be at least a little suspicious that this was done to cover for Trump's activities regarding the coup memo/attempt, leading up to and during the insurrection at the capitol--and perhaps for what the Secret Service planned to do to Mike Pence. 

So, as usual, you have it ass-backward. It's still the same people as always lying and attacking democracy: team Trump. 

Ahhh look.  The favorite leftie attack line of "why are we talking about this it's nothing". 

It's one of the standard tactics when they know they can't refute or address the issue. 

New proof comes out that covid was developed in a lab and the vaccine isn't as safe?  "err... why are we talking about this covid is over nobody cares just shut up!"

transgender sports issue comes up?  "ummm why are we talking about this, lets talk about something important"

And here - "why are we talking bout this? nobody cares any more"

 

Sigh. Well at least they're consistent.  It's kind of a 'tell' tho - when you see it you know you've struck a nerve. 

[gatomontes99]

10 minutes ago, Hodad said:

WTF is happening in this thread? We have knows about the deleted text messages for years. It was a sore spot for the J6 committee. Deletions began under Trump. By the time the IG requested them in Feb (1 month into Biden admin) they were allegedly gone. Along with the relevant phone records of Chad Wolf and Ken Cucinelli and a number of DoD officials. And they were deleting this basically as Biden was being sworn in.

One would have to be at least a little suspicious that this was done to cover for Trump's activities regarding the coup memo/attempt, leading up to and during the insurrection at the capitol--and perhaps for what the Secret Service planned to do to Mike Pence. 

So, as usual, you have it ass-backward. It's still the same people as always lying and attacking democracy: team Trump. 

The text messages were deleted from this agents phone months after the J6 committee requested them.

[Michael Hardner]

8 minutes ago, Hodad said:

WTF is happening in this thread? We have knows about the deleted text messages for years. It was a sore spot for the J6 committee. Deletions began under Trump. By the time the IG requested them in Feb (1 month into Biden admin) they were allegedly gone. Along with the relevant phone records of Chad Wolf and Ken Cucinelli and a number of DoD officials. And they were deleting this basically as Biden was being sworn in.

 

Assuming this is true, we are still at a point where we don't know why this was being done. Of course, some people are not going to jump to the conclusion that most would jump to... That the government in charge was responsible. 

And they won't take the logical path of saying we don't know without clear evidence, either. 

 

They will instead invent, fabricate, create and subsequently propagandize a nonsense counter theory.

[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Assuming this is true, we are still at a point where we don't know why this was being done. Of course, some people are not going to jump to the conclusion that most would jump to... That the government in charge was responsible. 

And they won't take the logical path of saying we don't know without clear evidence, either. 

 

They will instead invent, fabricate, create and subsequently propagandize a nonsense counter theory.

So in other words you know they're right and you're a little butt hurt about it, so you'll try to pretend we shouldn't be talking about it. 

OK there mr "definitely a conservative and not a leftie at all".   

In the absence of an official gov't position the public is left with no choice but to speculate.  It is irresponsible to suggest that no gov't action should ever be questioned unless the gov't has already told you what to think about it. That is NOT how a democracy functions and it's not reasonable to suggest it is. 

[Hodad]

6 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

The text messages were deleted from this agents phone months after the J6 committee requested them.

Nope. I know you like to get your news from Twitter, YouTube videos and chain emails, but that's simply not true. 

Here's a timeline:

January 16, 2021: Ten days after the insurrection at the Capitol, four House committees send a letter to Homeland Security and other relevant agencies instructing them to preserve records related to January 6.

It’s still unclear whether the Secret Service received the guidance. A source familiar with the investigation told CNN the Secret Service tried to find it last week but could not.

January 25, 2021: The Secret Service “instructed employees on how to preserve content on their phones,” sending a reminder to employees that a preplanned data migration would wipe their phones, according to a letter Secret Service sent to the House select committee on July 19, 2022. The internal Secret Service notice made clear that employees were solely responsible for saving records that had to be preserved by law.

February 26, 2021: DHS Inspector General Joseph Cuffari requests electronic communications from the Secret Service for the first time, according to agency spokesman Anthony Guglielmi. “DHS OIG requested electronic communications for the first time on Feb. 26, 2021, after the migration was well under way. The Secret Service notified DHS OIG of the loss of certain phones’ data, but confirmed to OIG that none of the texts it was seeking had been lost in the migration,” Guglielmi said in a July 14, 2022, statement.

[gatomontes99]

Just now, Hodad said:

Nope. I know you like to get your news from Twitter, YouTube videos and chain emails, but that's simply not true. 

Here's a timeline:

January 16, 2021: Ten days after the insurrection at the Capitol, four House committees send a letter to Homeland Security and other relevant agencies instructing them to preserve records related to January 6.

It’s still unclear whether the Secret Service received the guidance. A source familiar with the investigation told CNN the Secret Service tried to find it last week but could not.

January 25, 2021: The Secret Service “instructed employees on how to preserve content on their phones,” sending a reminder to employees that a preplanned data migration would wipe their phones, according to a letter Secret Service sent to the House select committee on July 19, 2022. The internal Secret Service notice made clear that employees were solely responsible for saving records that had to be preserved by law.

February 26, 2021: DHS Inspector General Joseph Cuffari requests electronic communications from the Secret Service for the first time, according to agency spokesman Anthony Guglielmi. “DHS OIG requested electronic communications for the first time on Feb. 26, 2021, after the migration was well under way. The Secret Service notified DHS OIG of the loss of certain phones’ data, but confirmed to OIG that none of the texts it was seeking had been lost in the migration,” Guglielmi said in a July 14, 2022, statement.

I got this from an article on RealClear yesterday. Is RCP radical and unreliable now too? This is straight from an agent.

[Hodad]

21 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

I got this from an article on RealClear yesterday. Is RCP radical and unreliable now too? This is straight from an agent.

I didn't say anything about RCP. And you only pasted in a Twitter posts. And you can clearly see in the timeline that the migration was planned under Trump and actually started just after Biden was sworn in. We've known this for years.

If you look at the post you pasted you'll notice this line from the alleged whistleblower: "I worked on January 6th, and I had to turn in my phone a couple of months later, and never saw it again."

The J6 committee wasn't even formed until July 2021. So even by this person's comment, their communications were NOT deleted after the J6 committee request, as you claim. 

That timeline I posted is over 2 years old. We have known about the deleted messages all this time.

There is a post in your OP claiming that Kim Cheatle's phone was wiped during this process. She didn't even join the Secret Service until September 2022. 

Again I ask, WTF is going on in this thread? Read the timeline--or the hundreds of other articles from 2022 when this story blew up.

Edited August 6, 2024 by Hodad

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

And the house of cards continues to crumble.

It must pain Libbies horribly to realize their own support has been dedicated to traitors bent on power at any cost.

@Libbies...

You constantly whine about "lies" and attacks on democracy. Tell me...who is really lying and attacking democracy?

Certainly Trump is the MOST PATHOLOGICAL LIAR to ever occupy the WH and tried to destroy democracy by overturning the election in 2020.

Of course YOU don't know WTH is going on HERE or you would not have asked ^this question.

Your problem is, you don't know who's been LYING TO YOU.

5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

The text messages were deleted from this agents phone months after the J6 committee requested them.

Just cause your anonymous whistleblower said so? 

Did he testify under OATH? LMAO

Edited August 6, 2024 by robosmith

[CouchPotato]

On 8/5/2024 at 12:43 PM, gatomontes99 said:

Why? What in the world could they be hiding?

Dan Bongino was talking about this on his show yesterday.

Edited August 6, 2024 by CouchPotato

[Nationalist]

15 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Certainly Trump is the MOST PATHOLOGICAL LIAR to ever occupy the WH and tried to destroy democracy by overturning the election in 2020.

Of course YOU don't know WTH is going on HERE or you would not have asked ^this question.

Your problem is, you don't know who's been LYING TO YOU.

No.

I know you're lying.

[WestCanMan]

On 8/5/2024 at 8:53 AM, CdnFox said:

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

I had to Google that lol. 

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Assuming this is true, we are still at a point where we don't know why this was being done. Of course, some people are not going to jump to the conclusion that most would jump to... That the government in charge was responsible. 

And they won't take the logical path of saying we don't know without clear evidence, either. 

 

They will instead invent, fabricate, create and subsequently propagandize a nonsense counter theory.

We can pretend that we don't know why every single one of the FBI's errors, omissions and crimes went one way and never the other as well during their Russian collusion witch hunt. 

We can even wonder why it took until 2024 for everyone to agree that Trump did indeed offer help from the Nat Guard and Pelosi was the one who kiboshed it. 

We can wonder how long it will take for leftard cultists to admit that Trump sent 3 messages to his supporters in 3 hours if we want to. 

The thing is, when something fits a well-established pattern, like the Dems lying and cheating on elections and weaponizing the various gov't institutions and even participating in crimes, we don't have to guess.

If the dead body of a rival gangster is found in the trunk of a mafioso's car, not many would assume the guy fell there, onto some bullets.

Edited August 6, 2024 by WestCanMan

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I had to Google that lol. 

LOL   

But it's an age old problem that was a serious issue and nobody ever really seems to get it right. 

The romans were worried returning generals would use their armed and eperienced troops for a coup so they made a law that you could not cross the rubicon river without disarming your troops and created the pretorian guard after what happened to julius to protect the emporor and rome -  and for the next 300 years they were deeply involved in all manner of poltical intrigue and shenannigans. 

 

The FBI watches against threats to america, but who watches the FBI to make sure they're not a threat?