Killing of pre-born babies is murder and our governments support it

[Yakuda]

14 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Then God is responsible to clean up His own mess   What kind of a$$hole creates evil when they could have chosen not to?

 

Oh don't read with comprehension do you? Maybe its just your anger and hatred that makes it hard for you to read well. 

[herbie]

Maybe it is a form of subconcious Talibanism that allows this discussion solely by men, over what women should be 'allowed' to do, to continue for page after page.

Edited October 7, 2024 by herbie

[User]

21 hours ago, herbie said:

Maybe it is a form of subconcious Talibanism that allows this discussion solely by men, over what women should be 'allowed' to do, to continue for page after page.

Oh, I see, so if I go quote Pro-Life women to you on this issue, then you will accept the arguments?

Also, for this discussion, I identify as a woman. 

Edited October 8, 2024 by User

[August1991]

On 9/25/2024 at 4:25 AM, blackbird said:

Of course there is good and evil.  It is all around you if you open your eyes.

The clear evidence of God is also all around you, again if you open your eyes.  He created everything.

As for talking to God,  that was explained in my posting on knowing God.  You too can know God if you have read the Bible and receive faith.  I will repeat the posting here:

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Disagree about good and evil.

When you are praying, you are talking to yourself. Think about that.

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As to abortion (killing pre-born), I have a different opinion/thought.

Why do women bear most of the burden of child-birth?

Aside from a 9 month pregnancy, there's also the first several months of child-care.

By world standards, Quebec has a relatively generous maternity leave policy but it hardly corrects the imbalance between men and women in child bearing.

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A woman surely has some control over her body. I agree with you that the unborn child should have a voice in this matter. But the father? Maybe he should bear some of the costs - on behalf of the kid.

 

 

[Radiorum]

So, I am trying to understand the OP’s concepts of good and evil.  What are they? Are they forces? Are they entities with agency? Are they nouns or adjectives? Are they convenient – and subjective - judging labels?

[Uncle Fred]

On 8/4/2024 at 1:14 AM, blackbird said:

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Satan is laughing at all the gullible women who kill their own baby.

deo.

Horrors Of Abortion! (jesus-is-savior.com)

 

Satin is not real.  Invoking religion, is just like saying "I said so, so it must be right. No further arguments accepted."  But there are very real reasons for having an abortion.  We used to observe that if men were the ones carrying the fetuses and delivering the babies, we'd have abortion on demand before tomorrow morning.

As it turns out nature has put that task upon the women and if the women have to do it, then it only makes sense that they have authority over the process.  To be required to something and then have other people making decisons like this requiring you to go through a full pregnancy and delivery, and then taking your baby away from you.  It's very hurtful to a woman.

A woman wrote a few months back that she heard a male politician who didn't understand how a woman with a tampon could still urinate.  Her comment was, "And this {man} is going to be making laws governing my body?!?"

Women have to have authority over their pregnancies and access to abortions if they feel they have a need for them.  Women are more than baby making factories.

[blackbird]

On 11/28/2024 at 11:47 AM, Uncle Fred said:

Satin is not real.  Invoking religion, is just like saying "I said so, so it must be right.

No, it's not because I said so.  It's because the Holy Bible says so.  God says so. Jesus who is God says so.

You have been badly deceived and that is what Satan wants.  Of course he doesn't want you to think he exists.  If you believed it you might have a different attitude and maybe you just might pay more attention to what God says in his Holy Bible, in English, the King James Version or Authorized Version.

Nobody can force you to believe anything.  You would have to be willing to do some research and study the KJV Bible to learn the truth.

God created man and woman for a reason.  One is the creation of human life.  

"26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27  So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28  And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."  Genesis 1:26-28 KJV

God also said "thou shalt not kill".  That includes the pre-born babies.  Human life is sacred and belong to God.  The woman is not god and does not have the right to decide whether a baby should live or die.  God determines when life ends, not mankind.

You can google and read about the fall of man and understand why man has a corrupt fallen nature and why many think they have the right to kill pre-born babies.  It is because of the corrupt fallen nature that was inherited from Adam and Eve after they rebelled against God in the garden of Eden.  Everyone is a corrupt fallen sinner and needs to be born again.  Read the gospel of John.  It is a fact Jesus died for the sins of mankind and was raised from the dead.

 

 

[blackbird]

On 11/28/2024 at 11:47 AM, Uncle Fred said:

Satin is not real.  Invoking religion, is just like saying "I said so, so it must be right.

Right and wrong comes from God in his written revelation, in English, the King James Bible or Authorized Version.

Do you believe there is such a thing as absolutes that define right and wrong? 

The source of right and wrong in a civilized society such as the western nations came from Judeo-Christian civilization.

The ten commandments given in Exodus in the Bible for instance tells us things like "thou shalt not kill",  "thou shalt not steal".  These commands teach us that human life is sacred and nobody has the right to take it.   They also teach us there is such a thing as private property.  We have the right to own things and nobody has the right to steal them from us.

There is a basic foundation for man to tell us what is right and wrong.  That was not invented by men.  It came from God who inspired the prophets and apostles to write the Holy Scriptures.  That source has been the Bible for thousands of years.  Satan and his demons and those that follow him want to ignore God's written revelation and create anarchy and lawlessness.  

Edited December 3, 2024 by blackbird

[Videospirit]

Homicide and Murder aren't the same thing.

[User]

11 hours ago, Videospirit said:

Homicide and Murder aren't the same thing.

Wow, thanks for digging up this thread for this... LOL