Is it Time For Biden's Handlers to End the Ukraine War? Israel War?

[WestCanMan]

4 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

You actually believe this? It''s almost certain Russia will exact revenge on the Ukrainian population. It''s one of the reasons Ukraine has been fighting so hard against Russia, knowing that if they surrender, the Russians will commit atrocities against the Ukrainians in Russian occupied Ukraine.

And yes, it is the equivalent of a surrender. 

I don't think this war ends without retribution one way or another, but just remember that Russia is a more diverse country than the US, and they can't be as fractious as all that.

Re: diversity, sure, the USA has a lot of different races and religions, but the states are all basically the same: mostly white Christians with a mix of other races/religions, 98% of whom are all fluent in English. By contrast, Russia has entire regions that are nothing alike. Keeping that country together is not automatic. 

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If you think your plan is better than what is going on, you obviously have not studied the history of the region. Ukrainians have been victimised by the Russians for centuries. There is nothing good that can come out of a Ukrainian surrender.

Russians in Ukraine were victimized before this war started. What's your point?

8 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Kennedy's own family and relatives have pretty much disowned him, and came out with a public statement indicating RFK Jr does not speak for any of the Kennedy family. Kennedy is a loon, and the reason he switched to Independent, from being a Democrat, is nobody supported him. 

At any rate, recent polls indicate that RFK support is dwindling, and may be at 5% now, so he is pretty much irrelevant. 

5% is a lot. The difference in almost every swing state is less than that.

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1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Re: diversity, sure, the USA has a lot of different races and religions, but the states are all basically the same: mostly white Christians with a mix of other races/religions, 98% of whom are all fluent in English. By contrast, Russia has entire regions that are nothing alike. Keeping that country together is not automatic. 

Unsure what your point is, or what this has to do with the Ukraine War. 

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Russians in Ukraine were victimized before this war started. What's your point?

That''s BS Russian propaganda. 

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19 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

POTUS is the leader of the free world.

woosh!

19 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

He needs to be able to walk up stairs, ride a bike, and speak English. 

Trump can't ride a bike. He can barely walk up stairs now days. 

19 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The fact of the matter is that when Trump was the leader of the free world, the free world was flourishing.

False. When Trump left office, he had the largest net loss in terms of jobs, of any US President in history.

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Trump reaching out to Kennedy for an endorsement, and try to lure him to drop his campaign and work with Trump, indicates that Trump thinks RFK is taking away votes from him

No, that' stupid.  I see your knowledge of politics is as strong as your knowledge of federal parks. 

You don't invite someone who's hurting YOU to join you, that just gives them validity and lends strength to their message. If they say no it stregnthens their ability to hurt you. Nobody would do that. 

If you even consider it you would do it behind closed doors where there is zero chance of someone seeing and even then it would be insanely rare. 

You invite people that are hurting your enemy but whom would at least be somewhat friendly to you to join you, not people who are hurting you. THat's pretty much politics 101.   If kennedy comes over it'll hurt the dems and help trump BECAUSE it will make disenfranchised dem voters feel they can 'safely give the dems the middle finger. 

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7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No, that' stupid.  I see your knowledge of politics is as strong as your knowledge of federal parks. 

You don't invite someone who's hurting YOU to join you, that just gives them validity and lends strength to their message. If they say no it stregnthens their ability to hurt you. Nobody would do that. 

That is how the Conservative Party of Canada was formed. Many members of the Reform and PC Party realised that the right of centre vote was being split, and the only chance they had to return to office, was to merge. In 2000, the Reform Party, and many of the former PC Party merged to form the Alliance. The in 2003, the remainder of the old PC Party merged with the Alliance, to form the CPC.

This also recently happened in Alberta, in the aftermath of the NDP victory in 2015, as the Wildrose and PC Parties split the right of centre vote. In 2017, the parties chose to merge, and form the United Conservative Party.

i'm afraid your knowledge of politics is just as bad as your knowledge of the jurisdiction of Jasper, Alberta.

 

 

 

 

Edited August 4, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[CouchPotato]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

Trump reaching out to Kennedy for an endorsement, and try to lure him to drop his campaign and work with Trump, indicates that Trump thinks RFK is taking away votes from him.

I wouldn't say that is necessarily true. It could indicate that he feels he could pick up some of the more centrist Democrat voters who like really like RFK Jr. if he were to endorse him.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

woosh!

Trump can't ride a bike. He can barely walk up stairs now days. 

False. When Trump left office, he had the largest net loss in terms of jobs, of any US President in history.

What a BS loser you are. You're acting like starting the pandemic was part of Trump's economic plan. 

Only a cultist dipshit Demi would start a pandemic, thinking it would be good for the economy. 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

That is how the Conservative Party of Canada was formed.

It really wasn't. 

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Many members of the Reform and PC Party realised that the right of centre vote was being split, and the only chance they had to return to office, was to merge.

Yes.  I know. I was there.  

That is 100 percent different.  neither party could win on their own. Trump can absolutely win on his own and Kennedy cannot.  And a merger is 100 percent different than having someone simply defect to your side. 

You've taken something which is completely 100 percent different than what we're talking about and trying to pretend its' same.   This isn't a merger.  This would be an endorsement and possibly kennedy coming to work for trump. 

This would be more like the liberals recruiting mark Carney. Carney has been critical of the libs but far more critical of PP and the cpc.  So the CPC isn't going to recruit him, but the libs would love to. 

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This also recently happened in Alberta, in the aftermath of the NDP victory in 2015, as the Wildrose and PC Parties split the right of centre vote. 

Also a merger.  Completely different.  Not even remotely close to the same thing.  The two leaders in both those mergers had to step down. Do you see trump stepping down?

Edited August 4, 2024 by CdnFox

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4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

 

Only a cultist dipshit Demi would start a pandemic, thinking it would be good for the economy. 

You are implying  that the COVID pandemic was man-made, and Democrats started a Worldwide pandemic to "hurt Trump"" and "help the economy?" 

Edited August 5, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

You are implying  that the COVID pandemic was man-made, and Democrats started a Worldwide pandemic to "hurt Trump"" and "help the economy?" 

That's a complicated answer:

1. I'm about 99% sure that the covid virus was man-made
2. If I had to guess then I'd say that there's about a 60% chance that the gov't of China released it intentionally, because they knew exactly who was most susceptible to it: old obese people with diabetes, etc. IE, Americans. There's about a 39% chance that it was just leaked, and less than a 1% chance that it was the result of a bat-pangolin(or other species)-human occurrence.
3. You're the one who's implying that the pandemic was man-made, you're actually implying that Trump was responsible for it getting out, because you're blaming him for covid job losses with your earlier statement ("When Trump left office, he had the largest net loss in terms of jobs"). Obviously he's not to blame for covid job losses unless he was responsible for releasing the virus, right?

It's really pathetic that after 4 years the Dems' only claim to fame is that covid killed some jobs, and when the pandemic was over, jobs came back. Yay Biden... go take another well-earned nap 😴

The Dems are like the astronomers from the old fables who predicted that a dragon would eat the sun if they didn't get whatever they wanted. The covid job losses/gains story is just as stupid, but that's ok, because cultists like you will believe anything they say. 

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1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

 

1. If I had to guess then I'd say that there's about a 60% chance that the gov't of China released it intentionally, because they knew exactly who was most susceptible to it: old obese people with diabetes, etc. IE, Americans. There's about a 39% chance that it was just leaked, and less than a 1% chance that it was the result of a bat-pangolin(or other species)-human occurrence.

lol....China is the United States leading trade partner. If the US economy is shut down, it directly affects the Chinese economy, causing a recession. Suggesting the Chinese produced a Worldwide pandemic makes absolutely no sense. 

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

1. You're the one who's implying that the pandemic was man-made, you're actually implying that Trump was responsible for it getting out, because you're blaming him for covid job losses with your earlier statement ("When Trump left office, he had the largest net loss in terms of jobs"). Obviously he's not to blame for covid job losses unless he was responsible for releasing the virus, right?

 

uh...no.

Trump did a poor job of containing the virus, and kept insisting that it was "nothing to worry about" and "he had everything under control" as hospitals in NYC were over capacity with dying COVID patients. The US ended up losing over 1,000,000 people- by far the most of any country in the World due to COVID. 

Pandemic or no pandemic, Trump inherited a US economy that was booming, thanks to Obama, and after all was said and done, the economy was in shambles. 

[WestCanMan]

6 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

lol....China is the United States leading trade partner. If the US economy is shut down, it directly affects the Chinese economy, causing a recession. Suggesting the Chinese produced a Worldwide pandemic makes absolutely no sense. 

By your logic there would never be any wars and nations would always be trading with each other.

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uh...no.Trump did a poor job of containing the virus, and kept insisting that it was "nothing to worry about" and "he had everything under control" as hospitals in NYC were over capacity with dying COVID patients.

Nice try, stupid.

By Jan 29 2020, Trump had already banned non-Americans from flying in from China, and the Dems' only contribution was to say "That's racist!"

Demonrats are also the ones who said and did the wrongs things about covid for the first 3 months. Two weeks after Trump took the proper action to ban flights, Bill DeBlasio went on TV and told NYers to "Ride the subway and go to restaurants like usual". On Feb 24th (or thereabouts) Nancy Pelosi had her hugathon in San Francisco - there was a tightly packed crowd of 100s of people going in and out of businesses, and she hugged some of them.

Trump also had two navy ships outfitted to fight covid, one in NYC and one in LA, and they were already in those cities just a month after Pelosi's hugathon. That means he was already planning that while Nancy was giving bad advice, and setting a bad example. 

The Javits center was opened on April 7, so again, Trump already had that set in motion when Pelosi was saying and doing all the wrong things. 

Buuuuut, the powers that be in NY State decided not to use them. Worst of all, Gov Cuomo, a Demonrat, decided that instead of sending recovering covid patients to those covid treatment centers, he would send them back to care homes - and he forbade testing them for covid. Forbade. IE, it was not allowed. He turned elderly care homes into euthanasia centers.

Trump had Operation Warp Speed up and running before Dems stopped saying and doing stupid things.

 

Buddy, Trump worked hard to fight covid, and he did all the right things. The only reason that you believe the shit that you just said there is because CNN said it. FYI that shoulda been your first clue that it was a lie.

There's no excuse for you not to be aware of these things while you're running your mouth about this topic, DUI.

Next time educate before you bloviate, dummy.

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4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

By your logic there would never be any wars and nations would always be trading with each other.

Nice try, stupid.

By Jan 29 2020, Trump had already banned non-Americans from flying in from China, and the Dems' only contribution was to say "That's racist!"

Demonrats are also the ones who said and did the wrongs things about covid for the first 3 months. Two weeks after Trump took the proper action to ban flights, Bill DeBlasio went on TV and told NYers to "Ride the subway and go to restaurants like usual". On Feb 24th (or thereabouts) Nancy Pelosi had her hugathon in San Francisco - there was a tightly packed crowd of 100s of people going in and out of businesses, and she hugged some of them.

Trump also had two navy ships outfitted to fight covid, one in NYC and one in LA, and they were already in those cities just a month after Pelosi's hugathon. That means he was already planning that while Nancy was giving bad advice, and setting a bad example. 

The Javits center was opened on April 7, so again, Trump already had that set in motion when Pelosi was saying and doing all the wrong things. 

Buuuuut, the powers that be in NY State decided not to use them. Worst of all, Gov Cuomo, a Demonrat, decided that instead of sending recovering covid patients to those covid treatment centers, he would send them back to care homes - and he forbade testing them for covid. Forbade. IE, it was not allowed. He turned elderly care homes into euthanasia centers.

Trump had Operation Warp Speed up and running before Dems stopped saying and doing stupid things.

 

Buddy, Trump worked hard to fight covid, and he did all the right things. The only reason that you believe the shit that you just said there is because CNN said it. FYI that shoulda been your first clue that it was a lie.

There's no excuse for you not to be aware of these things while you're running your mouth about this topic, DUI.

Next time educate before you bloviate, dummy.

The sad thing about this post, is many uneducated and gullible people actually believe it. And that is what is scary.

[robosmith]

On 8/3/2024 at 2:22 PM, gatomontes99 said:

You mean like when you negotiate with terrorists that kidnap your people that visit your country?

 

I think you mean THEIR country. Duh

When they hold the cards, you get your people back and make them pay later.

[robosmith]

On 8/3/2024 at 4:37 PM, WestCanMan said:

POTUS is the leader of the free world.

He needs to be able to walk up stairs, ride a bike, and speak English. 

The fact of the matter is that when Trump was the leader of the free world, the free world was flourishing.

When Biden became the leader of the free world, everything spiralled downwards. Literally everything. Inflation is sky high, interest rates and energy costs are way up. The cost of food is way up. In the US illegal immigration is up. Homelessness and drug addiction is also way worse. 

The "Hastings corridor" in Vancouver used to be one street for a few blocks, with a moderate amount of people on it. Now it's blocks wide, far longer, and it's jam-packed. If you look out the side windows you wanna cry. It's such a sad waste of human lives and fruitful years it's disgusting. People in the prime years of their lives are a shambling wreck. The deaths stats are just the tip of the iceberg. People are living like zombies for months and years and then they're hopeless wrecks just waiting for death. 

We're so sorry that YOUR economy is suffering so badly, but when it comes to the US you should stop listening to the RepubliCON propaganda outlet known as FOS LIES.

Gas prices are way down, now and inflation is ~3% HERE. Duh

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Right. And they're definitely not able. So now what? Just keep throwing lives away along that new border? Just keep burning American money like it's going out of style? (which it kind of is now that it's no longer the petro dollar, thanks to Biden)

It's time for that war to end. It's time for that people in that region to start having lives again. It's time for that region to start producing food again. 

If someone could make the case that Ukraine is gaining some ground back I'd see some reason for that war to continue, but it's just been a meat-grinder for two+ years now. 

Is there some great reason why you think that people should just keep dying there? NOTHING is being achieved. Nothing. 

F*ck Ukraine. I wouldn't give them the steam off my sh1t.

No one cares what you would give Ukraine.

Meanwhile they just got our F-16s

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Trump did a poor job of containing the virus, and kept insisting that it was "nothing to worry about" and "he had everything under control" as hospitals in NYC were over capacity with dying COVID patients. The US ended up losing over 1,000,000 people- by far the most of any country in the World due to COVID. 

Pandemic or no pandemic, Trump inherited a US economy that was booming, thanks to Obama, and after all was said and done, the economy was in shambles. 

Pretty much none of that is actually true.  

Did you need me to spell out why with examples or did you want to go do some reading on your own first, perhaps from sources that aren't completely bias or echo chamber driven.

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28 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

Did you need me to spell out why with examples or did you want to go do some reading on your own first, perhaps from sources that aren't completely bias or echo chamber driven.

I do not need you to spell it out for me, since you are not intelligent enough to decipher the meaning of the words you spell out, or the subjects that you post on. 

[Rebound]

16 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

No one "surrenders". 

They'll negotiate a peace settlement, file a grievance at the UN disputing Russia's sovereignty over that land, try for sanctions and whatnot, and they'll say that "Preventing mighty Russia from taking over their much smaller country was a massive victory for proud Ukrainian fighters", they'll give out some medals, and cities will stop being destroyed/people will stop dying.

The Dems and Republicans alike can accuse each other of things that they did or didn't do, and talk about how strong they were against Russia, and life will go on.

I think my plan is better than what's currently going on. It's a f'ing joke that the Ukraine war is still going on.

What’s to stop  Russia from taking all the land of Ukraine? 

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

I do not need you to spell it out for me, since you are not intelligent enough to decipher the meaning of the words you spell out, or the subjects that you post on. 

ROFLMAO - wow, that was the best you can do?  So what you're saying is you do need it spelled out for you, you just don't want to be embarrassed by having me do it  

Go read, and don't fall into the confirmation bias trap. As far as actual results in areas he had control over trump did fairly well, and where there were issues it was due to the local conditions being exceptionally crowded (new york) and had nothing to do with their hospitals.  There's quite a bit of research and data.  Problems showed up in later waves (yes  that was during biden's time, no it really wasn't his fault for the most part). 

If you're going to make a legit criticism  it would be that trump said a lot of dumb things. It's pretty obvious he wanted to prevent panic and calm people, but with trump everything is either the best ever or the worst imaginable, he's got no middle ground.  So covid was ' really nothing' and about as medically serious as getting  a splinter or an existential threat to the survival of the country depending on who he was  talking to. 

But the reality and results shows he did pretty well, and economically he did pretty comparable to everyone else.  And of course Project lightspeed gave us the two best vaccines in the world at the time for covid (which is a good thing or a bad thing depending how you feel about the vaccines. )

[Nationalist]

12 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

lol....China is the United States leading trade partner. If the US economy is shut down, it directly affects the Chinese economy, causing a recession. Suggesting the Chinese produced a Worldwide pandemic makes absolutely no sense. 

Says the Libbie who thinks The Rona came from bats naturally.

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

The sad thing about this post, is many uneducated and gullible people actually believe it. And that is what is scary.

The sad thing about being a leftard cultist is that you never have any facts to cite, just unsubstantiated accusations.

If you felt like something that I said was untrue, you could have asked, dipshit. I can prove everything I said.  

5 hours ago, Rebound said:

What’s to stop  Russia from taking all the land of Ukraine? 

🤦‍♂️

[robosmith]

31 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Says the Libbie who thinks The Rona came from bats naturally.

^Says the lDIOT who constantly proves Dunning and Kruger correct. 

The FACT is, YOU have NO IDEA what the source of the COVID virus was. 

All you know is the BULLSHIT you hear on right wing propaganda sources.

[Nationalist]

21 minutes ago, robosmith said:

^Says the lDIOT who constantly proves Dunning and Kruger correct. 

The FACT is, YOU have NO IDEA what the source of the COVID virus was. 

All you know is the BULLSHIT you hear on right wing propaganda sources.

There must be a pill you take to promote such stupidity...you can't be naturally this stupid...can you?

You should discontinue taking that pill.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

^Says the lDIOT who constantly proves Dunning and Kruger correct. 

The FACT is, YOU have NO IDEA what the source of the COVID virus was. 

All you know is the BULLSHIT you hear on right wing propaganda sources.

LOL !!! Yay - dunning kruger is back   It's always my fave    Its' great when the "Out of Context with ROBOSMITH" show  brings back the classics  

[herbie]

On 8/3/2024 at 4:37 PM, WestCanMan said:

POTUS is the leader of the free world.

And you hate Biden for having to re-establish that position, eh?