Its official - the shooter was a democrat.

[Black Dog]

30 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

umm - that's all left wing stuff.  The left supports palestine and hates the jews. The left embraces political violence to further their cause  

Still your boy kiddo   LOLOLOL 

Lol anti-semitism and anti-immigrant stuff is standard on the far right, you are just retarded.

[Black Dog]

21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No, capitalism requires a FREE market, unhindered by regulation or excessive gov't control. 

A true free market has not and does not exist.

Any system that involves private ownership of the means of production for private profit is, by definition, capitalist, regardless of how heavy the tax burden or generous the social welfare programs are.

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LOL the us economy is NOT highly regulated at all.  

It absolutely is, from actual regulations to corporate subsidies to taxation.

[CdnFox]

Just now, Black Dog said:

A true free market has not and does not exist.

It has.  But it's very undesirable on any kind of scale.  Pure capitalism is only slightly better than pure socialism/communism.  

[Black Dog]

25 minutes ago, User said:

Notice the FBI did not provide the comments or the social media account... gee, I wonder why. 

Maybe... 

https://x.com/BasedTorba/status/1818311922560774188

Yes your track record of believing social media posts that confirm your biases is already established.

You'll note that there's no evidence given here for the claim that Crooks was a pro-lockdown, pro-immigration, left-wing Joe Biden supporter, just the word of a fascist-enabling Trump supporter.

[User]

3 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Yes your track record of believing social media posts that confirm your biases is already established.

You'll note that there's no evidence given here for the claim that Crooks was a pro-lockdown, pro-immigration, left-wing Joe Biden supporter, just the word of a fascist-enabling Trump supporter.

When you can't argue the facts... just ignore them. 

 

[Black Dog]

18 minutes ago, User said:

When you can't argue the facts... just ignore them. 

What facts? You haven't presented any facts, just an unproven claim by a fascist-enabling Trump supporter.

 

Edited July 30, 2024 by Black Dog

[Five of swords]

30 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ya @CdnFox, you simply refuse to believe. Dont you know that "truth" is meaningless to Libbies?

You Must BELIEVE...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism

 

Just basic facts here. Market socialism would describe, say, Scandinavian countries in the 1990s.

The nsdap was a planned economy. Therefore it was not market socialism.

 

You guys are just wrong about basic definitions of terms. You could thank me for educating you, or you could just display your level of mental retardation. I don't care either way.

Edited July 30, 2024 by Five of swords

[User]

14 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

What facts? You haven't presented any facts, just an unproven claim by a fascist-enabling Trump supporter.

The facts you ignored in the post I shared. 

 

[Black Dog]

Just now, User said:

The facts you ignored in the post I shared. 

Again, those aren't facts, those are unproven claims by a fascist-enabling Trump supporter.

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"The story is this: the account for which data was requested was, UNEQUIVOCALLY, pro-Biden and in particular pro-Biden's immigration policy. 

To the best of Gab's knowledge, as of 2021, Crooks was a pro-lockdown, pro-immigration, left-wing Joe Biden supporter."

 

There's no evidence or facts here.

[User]

27 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

There's no evidence or facts here.

You did not quote the entire thing... 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

 

It absolutely is, from actual regulations to corporate subsidies to taxation.

It's barely regulated at all.  There's some but compared to what there could be it's practically nothing. 

There are certainly some like bernie sanders and kamala who want to introduce a hell of a lot more, but currently it' at best lightly regulated. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism

 

Just basic facts here. Market socialism would describe, say, Scandinavian countries in the 1990s.

The nsdap was a planned economy. Therefore it was not market socialism.

 

You guys are just wrong about basic definitions of terms. You could thank me for educating you, or you could just display your level of mental retardation. I don't care either way.

Lol...dude...under the Soviet, every member nation had to plan the coming year. Every one of them. Yet...they were very socialist.

I'll thank you for for being a wonderful example of a petulant child.

[Five of swords]

9 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...dude...under the Soviet, every member nation had to plan the coming year. Every one of them. Yet...they were very socialist.

I'll thank you for for being a wonderful example of a petulant child.

I see everything went completely over your head lol. You don't even know what the discussion was about. You will probably never figure it out, either.

 

Yeah dude. The Soviets also had a planned economy.

[Black Dog]

56 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It's barely regulated at all.  There's some but compared to what there could be it's practically nothing. 

There are certainly some like bernie sanders and kamala who want to introduce a hell of a lot more, but currently it' at best lightly regulated. 

That'd be a surprise to the SEC, EPA, FTC, FDA, OSHA etc etc etc etc.

1 hour ago, User said:

You did not quote the entire thing... 

So what, the bits I quoted are the ones on dispute here. I'm not denying the FBI reached out to that fascist f*cker for information on account they suspect is linked to the shooter.

[User]

3 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

So what, the bits I quoted are the ones on dispute here. I'm not denying the FBI reached out to that fascist f*cker for information on account they suspect is linked to the shooter.

You claimed there were no facts, that means you disputed the entire thing, yet now you cherry pick it and leave out the rest. 

 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Five of swords said:

I see everything went completely over your head lol. You don't even know what the discussion was about. You will probably never figure it out, either.

Kid  nothing's going over anyone else's head   The problem is you're upside down so it just looks that way to you  

The nice adults in the room including myself have patiently explained things to you, this shouldn't be that difficult for you to figure out. You're wrong, you don't know what you're talking about, hitler wasn't just picked on by the french and brits and you need to read a few more books.    

[Black Dog]

Just now, User said:

You claimed there were no facts, that means you disputed the entire thing, yet now you cherry pick it and leave out the rest. 

LOL read what I wrote, dummy.

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You'll note that there's no evidence given here for the claim that Crooks was a pro-lockdown, pro-immigration, left-wing Joe Biden supporter, just the word of a fascist-enabling Trump supporter.

 

[User]

24 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

LOL read what I wrote, dummy.

I have to to tell you, you are one of the most insufferable people on this forum. That is for sure. 

"What facts? You haven't presented any facts, just an unproven claim by a fascist-enabling Trump supporter."

[Black Dog]

6 minutes ago, User said:

I have to to tell you, you are one of the most insufferable people on this forum. That is for sure. 

"What facts? You haven't presented any facts, just an unproven claim by a fascist-enabling Trump supporter."

And was that before or after the post I linked to above, hmmm?

I expect this kind of autistic pedantry from your little buddy CdnFux but i'm sure you can do better.

Edited July 30, 2024 by Black Dog

[User]

6 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

And was that before or after the post I linked to above, hmmm?

I expect this kind of autistic pedantry from your little buddy CdnFux but i'm sure you can do better.

This is your stupidity. You were the one who ignored what I posted because the facts were inconvenient to you. 

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

That'd be a surprise to the SEC, EPA, FTC, FDA, OSHA etc etc etc etc.

 

No it wouldn't. They would ceratinly agree that they don't regulate more than necessary.   When you look at a highly regulated market you see the difference.

These companies are not required to provide shares to the government, they're not required to have somebody from the government sit on their board, they are free to invent pretty much anything they want and are not required to create products that the state specifically wants if they don't feel like it, generally speaking they're not a signed specific territories or the like, anyone can start a business, etc etc. 

In a highly regulated market businesses are much much much more controlled.  Imagine for example a case where people could ONLY open a business if that person was a party member of the party in power and was found to be 'of good moral values' by the party. Or where women were not allowed to own businesses or to work beyond the age of 25 because they should be at home making babies.  Or where the gov't could directly control how many employees each business had and you HAD to keep it to that number, no higher or lower.  Or imagine that you were never allowed to sell your business to anyone but the state at a set price. 

What they have in the states is nothing. 

Canada is a MORE controlled market in some cases by far, and it's still far short of a highly regulated market. 

Hope that clears it up a little for you.  America is not a "free" market in the truest sense, it's more of a 'fair' market in the sense that there definitely is some regulation.  But it is no where near market socialism. 

43 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

So what, the bits I quoted are the ones on dispute here

No. and they never are with you.

[Black Dog]

On 7/29/2024 at 11:13 AM, CdnFox said:

ROFLMAO - oh dear - triggered nazi is triggered  

How do you know he's a Nazi, did he show you his membership card? 

[Black Dog]

21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No it wouldn't. They would ceratinly agree that they don't regulate more than necessary.   When you look at a highly regulated market you see the difference.

"Highly regulated" is of course a subjective term, just weaesly enough for you to slither around.

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These companies are not required to provide shares to the government, they're not required to have somebody from the government sit on their board, they are free to invent pretty much anything they want and are not required to create products that the state specifically wants if they don't feel like it, generally speaking they're not a signed specific territories or the like, anyone can start a business, etc etc. 

In a highly regulated market businesses are much much much more controlled.  Imagine for example a case where people could ONLY open a business if that person was a party member of the party in power and was found to be 'of good moral values' by the party. Or where women were not allowed to own businesses or to work beyond the age of 25 because they should be at home making babies.  Or where the gov't could directly control how many employees each business had and you HAD to keep it to that number, no higher or lower.  Or imagine that you were never allowed to sell your business to anyone but the state at a set price. 

 

Name a market socialist state that has these features.

27 minutes ago, User said:

This is your stupidity. You were the one who ignored what I posted because the facts were inconvenient to you. 

No this is your stupidity, I clearly stated which parts I was disputing, you are crying about the other stuff I wasn't talking about.

[User]

5 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

No this is your stupidity, I clearly stated which parts I was disputing, you are crying about the other stuff I wasn't talking about.

You are lying

"What facts? You haven't presented any facts, just an unproven claim by a fascist-enabling Trump supporter."

[CdnFox]

51 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

How do you know he's a Nazi, did he show you his membership card? 

Yeah- you weren't around for that discussion i take it.  I'm not using that term lightly or as a casual pejorative. you can go back and read his thread where we discussed how hitler was not the agressor and the only reason for the war is that france and britian hated germany, or his discussion with User about how there's no proof gas chambers ever existed, etc etc.  I suppose technically nazi sympathizer or idolizer or something would be more accurate.