Canada set to be fastest growing economy in G7 in 2025, IMF forecasts

[Zeitgeist]

On 7/19/2024 at 7:18 PM, CdnFox said:

I've heard it argued both ways - i've heard it said that as a country you don't want to lose your ability and independence when it comes to communication, food and content.  I can see that argument, if we're reliant on the US for those things it could put us in a bad position one day.  But the fact is it DOES cost a lot more and there's probably ways to guarantee we don't get wiped out without the level of protectionism we have toady. 

I agree that this is the tough reality of being a relatively small country: We lack the economy of scale that would allow more companies and competition, so if we insist on having our major players in communications, energy, and more be made in Canada with head offices here, we’re always going to be propping up a couple of companies using regulation and protection.  I just wonder if there are ways to bring in competitors and opportunities from outside Canada as long as they maintain certain high level operations.  I don’t see the value in propping up companies like Bell and Rogers when they’re so entrenched and dominant already.  At least let foreign companies compete for business, as long as they play by the same rules as other domestic companies.  

Edited July 22, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I agree that this is the tough reality of being a relatively small country: We lack the economy of scale that would allow more companies and competition, so if we insist on having our major players in communications, energy, and more be made in Canada with head offices here, we’re always going to be propping up a couple of companies using regulation and protection.  I just wonder if there are ways to bring in competitors and opportunities from outside Canada as long as they maintain certain high level operations.  I don’t see the value in propping up companies like Bell and Rogers when they’re so entrenched and dominant already.  At least let foreign companies compete for business, as long as they play by the same rules as other domestic companies.  

I think there must be better ways. 

Like i said - i get it. If american companies compete here then chances are our companies wind up in the dust. They just aren't competitive.  So - our communication infrastructure get owned by a foreign company and that's bad. 

But - i think there must be a way to allow competition. I don't know what that is but we've got the highest priced phone services and internet in the world as i understand it or near to, and that's just not ok.

[sharkman]

6 hours ago, I am Groot said:

I'm not programmed, son, I'm knowledgable. Almost everything that's wrong in America was wrong under Trump, too, and he didn't do a thing about them. He didn't even stop the mandatory DEI re-education courses for public servants until he was already in his re-election campaign. And he did nothing about the border until the Democrats took the House and he could use it as a weapon against them. Trump is not a conservative. He's a very old man afflicted by dementia who spouts lines like the sales guy he's always been, always looking for a sale and trying to stay out of jail.

Trump has given money to both parties his whole adult life.  He hasn't been a conservative, no kidding.  Trump was unable to drain the swamp, or all the laundry list of changes you've noted, and dozens more than you know nothing about.  You are indeed programmed, and I am not going to waste time pointing out your TDS.  In a year, your perspective may have changed or not.  It really doesn't matter.

[ExFlyer]

12 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Everyone has already patiently explained to you that all he IMF found was that our economy was growing fast - because Trudeau is pouring millions of people into it. Several people have posted cites from the banks saying as much. I don't know why you seem incapable of understanding that.

 

LOL. I'm not going to waste time arguing with a guy when everyone in the room has already told him he's wrong. It's not an argument I need to make nor, evidently, one you'll understand. 

And the only people who swagger and brag about their proficiency in debate are those everyone else laughs at.

Clearly "everyone" that you seem to include has not read the paper.

Clearly, the paper and it's data and facts were analyzed and they presented the paper with them. Just because it does not fit your narrative does not make you right or, let alone the IMF wrong.

As I have said numerous times, you are far, very far from an economist or statistician and most importantly, you have no data or facts to prove your point.

I know it is difficult for you ot realize you ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer  LOL

So, it actually is smart to "not going to waste time arguing with a guy ". It will save you a lot of embarrassment. I do not brag about proficiency in anything but I can say, I can outwit you and yes, they will, but laugh at you LOL

Edited July 22, 2024 by ExFlyer

[Moonbox]

Speaking of narratives...

"The Canadian economy appears to have achieved a soft landing: inflation has come down almost to target, while a recession has been avoided, with GDP growth cushioned by surging immigration even as per capita income has shrunk."

 

https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2024/07/16/pr24276-canada-imf-exec-board-concludes-2024-art-iv-consult

"Fastest growing economy in the G7" sounds great, but the IMF didn't say that.  Their economists know to dig a bit deeper and put those numbers in context.  

[BeaverFever]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Oh look.  Once again the dems suddenly switch their tune and rewrite history to try to cope with the fact they lied and covered things up.

IT. WAS. A. JOKE.

 

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Biden is mentally gone. Period. That's why he can't run again. The guy has dementia and parkinsons.  He's not fit.  I don't care if he's 20 years old or 200 - the guy can't do the job. 

He doesn’t have dementia or Parkinson’s, he’s just old and slow, which I agree is enough to make him unfit. 
 

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

trump does not have a mental impairment

That’s debatable LOL!

 

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

f you think there should be an age restriction then you should have been agreeing LAST time when it was YOUR guy.  BUT - you don't get to disagree and say Naaaaawww it's fine and THEN demand there should be an age restriction when it suits you. 

IT. WAS. A. JOKE.
 

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Good news is that unlike biden he won't try to run again. 

Don’t hold your breath. He’s been whining about deserving “at least” 3 terms since his first term and some of his supporters have already started floating the idea of ending presidential term limits. Realistically the only reason they won’t push it is because Trump will be 82 by then and probably clearly unfit for office  But never underestimate the cult of Trump.  He could be in a permanent vegetative state and the GOP would probably still prop him up weekend at Bernie’s style and run him on the ticket while the faithful Trump worshippers trample each other just for a chance to touch his robe 🤣

 

 

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

 

"Fastest growing economy in the G7" sounds great, but the IMF didn't say that.  Their economists know to dig a bit deeper and put those numbers in context.  

Their data says that regardless of whether they included in their write-up. 2.1 projected for 2025 is higher than what is projected for other countries. 
 

 

[CdnFox]

29 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

IT. WAS. A. JOKE.

LOL - was it now    I think you should read up on how humour works  

 

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He doesn’t have dementia or Parkinson’s, he’s just old and slow, which I agree is enough to make him unfit. 

Of course he does.  That's nothing to be ashamed of but cnn had a doctor on and was trying to desperately get him to agree that it's not possible to do a diagnosis just by watching him and the doctor said that's true in the early stages but any medical student who watches that and doesn't say 'parkinsons' just failed and should do something else. "

It's obvious to anyone who's got any experience with it. He's got parkinsons and dementia and it's fairly progressed, this gets substantially worse over the next 6 months. 

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That’s debatable LOL!

Well fair point    But not that kind of mental issue at the very least. 

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IT. WAS. A. JOKE.

If you have to keep telling people then it probably wasn't  
 

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Don’t hold your breath. He’s been whining about deserving “at least” 3 terms since his first term and some of his supporters have already started floating the idea of ending presidential term limits. Realistically the only reason they won’t push it is because Trump will be 82 by then and probably clearly unfit for office  But never underestimate the cult of Trump.  He could be in a permanent vegetative state and the GOP would probably still prop him up weekend at Bernie’s style and run him on the ticket while the faithful Trump worshippers trample each other just for a chance to touch his robe 🤣

Sigh.  He'll serve his term and be gone. Period full stop. Don't project the dem's actual behavior onto republicans. 

You'll have to live with him for  4 more years and that's it. 

 

[Legato]

40 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Don’t hold your breath. He’s been whining about deserving “at least” 3 terms since his first term and some of his supporters have already started floating the idea of ending presidential term limits. Realistically the only reason they won’t push it is because Trump will be 82 by then and probably clearly unfit for office  But never underestimate the cult of Trump.  He could be in a permanent vegetative state and the GOP would probably still prop him up weekend at Bernie’s style and run him on the ticket while the faithful Trump worshippers trample each other just for a chance to touch his robe 🤣

 

 

You spelled Biden\s name wrong three times.

[BeaverFever]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

LOL - was it now    I think you should read up on how humour works  

The book says humour doesn’t work on conservatives, which is no surprise. Conservative “humour” is laughing at an old man getting his skull fractured with a hammer for being a “liberal” or a woman getting killed in a tragic workplace accident involving a “liberal” actor.

 

There are experts who have said similar things about Trump’s ramblings. If Biden has anything other than old age it’s not “fairly progressef”. My wife’s father died this year after nearly a decade of dementia Biden is nowhere near that.

While there are rumours he has parkinsons its not fact, just wild speculation. He can still give speeches for example but can’t debate and take questions or speak extemporaneously to the level expected of a president.  

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

If you have to keep telling people then it probably wasn't  

There’s a freaking laughing smiley face in the post how much of a clue do you need?  You’re the only one who needed to be told the obvious. 

 

 

13 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

He'll serve his term and be gone. Period full stop. Don't project the dem's actual behavior onto republicans. 

LMAO Meanwhile back in reality Republicans are already test driving an end to term limit so there can be “Trump 2028”: And during Trump’s first term he claimed he would serve for more than 2  

Trump 2028

The Twenty-second Amendment is an arbitrary restraint on presidents who serve nonconsecutive terms—and on democracy itself.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/trump-2028/

 

Trump Says He Will ‘Negotiate’ Third Term Because He’s ‘Entitled’ To It

Sep 13, 2020

President Trump said Saturday that he plans to “negotiate” to run again in 2024 if he wins reelection in November, his latest in a series of comments that have alarmed critics who say he has little regard for constitutional boundaries.

 

Key Facts

During a rally in Minden, Nevada, Trump predicted he would win reelection and carry Nevada, a state he lost narrowly in 2016.

“After that,” Trump said, “we’ll negotiate,” asserting that he’s “probably entitled to another four after that” based on “the way we were treated.”

The comments echo ones Trump made during a rally in Wisconsin in August, in which he stated he would win four more years and “go for another four years” because “they spied on my campaign,” likely referencing his unproven “Obamagate” theory….

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/09/13/trump-says-he-will-negotiate-third-term-because-hes-entitled-to-it/
 

But like I said by 2028 Trump will be older and more decrepit than Biden is now so probably will step down if he’s still alive  

 

 

21 minutes ago, Legato said:

You spelled Biden\s name wrong three times.

That lame joke doesn’t even make sense

[CdnFox]

23 minutes ago, Legato said:

You spelled Biden\s name wrong three times.

Great - now he's going to appear and we can't get rid of him   

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

The book says humour doesn’t work on conservatives, which is no surprise.

The book? Is that the official young democrat allegiance and echo-chamber book or "democratic ideology for dummies" book?  

Actually conservatives tend to have a better sense of humour   

 

Conservative “humour” is laughing at an old man getting his skull fractured with a hammer for being a “liberal” or a woman getting killed in a tragic workplace accident involving a “liberal” actor.

 

 

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There are experts who have said similar things about Trump’s ramblings.

Not one.

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If Biden has anything other than old age it’s not “fairly progressef”. My wife’s father died this year after nearly a decade of dementia Biden is nowhere near that.

It's fairly progressed. There's a number of giveaways.

Look - to anyone with any real knowledge of this stuff (and yes i know what i'm talking about)  it's obvious as hell. And the deterioration in the last 6 months is significant. 

THe flat tone, the stiffness, the facial muscles, the confusion, the having to cut back his working hours, the constant 'slips of the tounge'.  If someone is drunk, most people can look at them and listen to them and very quickly say 'he's drunk".  It's like that. It's not vague. 

You were lied to. The dems tried to cover this up and that's all coming out now, with tonnes of reporters talking about it and their interactions with him in the last 6 months. 

 

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LMAO Meanwhile back in reality Republicans are already test driving an end to term limit so there can be “Trump 2028”:

 

They're not.  Sorry. 

Trump will serve his term and then he will be gone. And then you guys can spend all your time explaining why the next guy is "gasp!" even WORSE!!!! Oh noes!!   

 

[Legato]

21 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

That lame joke doesn’t even make sense

Well to those who have sense and not blinded by hatred it does.

[BeaverFever]

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They're not.  Sorry. 

They are and I gave you the link to the conservative magazine where it was published

 

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And then you guys can spend all your time explaining why the next guy is "gasp!" even WORSE!!!! Oh noes!!   

 Don't project Republicans’ actual behaviour onto others. 

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

They are and I gave you the link to the conservative magazine where it was published

They're not. Sorry.  And the fact that a magazine made up some shit doesn't change that

This is no different than your claims that trump promised 'blood in the streets' blah blah blah or any of the other ludicrous claims dems or supporters are coming up with. 

The term limit is a constitutional issue, included in the 22nd amendment.  It would require a constitutional change in the us to make it happen. 

That means a 2/3 vote in both houses, followed by ratification by three fourths of the states. 

Basically EVERYONE has to agree to it.  Red states, blue states, senate congress and by a 2/3 margin in their case. 

Trump will serve his term, then he'll be gone from office. 

Yeash. 

 

[Moonbox]

17 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Their data says that regardless of whether they included in their write-up. 2.1 projected for 2025 is higher than what is projected for other countries. 

Yes, but if you're going to quote the IMF's data, why would you dismiss their write-up?  The analysis and context they provide is more meaningful than the single data point pulled by a history grad writing for the National Post, wouldn't you think?  

The actual economists (both at the IMF and domestically) are aware that a single economic data point is meaningless, and they're painfully clear that this is a matter of population growth and immigration, rather than economic outperformance.  

[I am Groot]

21 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Their data says that regardless of whether they included in their write-up. 2.1 projected for 2025 is higher than what is projected for other countries. 
 

 

So you're saying we should increase immigration and bring in a lot more foreign workers? That would make it grow even faster! Yay!

[I am Groot]

On 7/22/2024 at 1:16 AM, sharkman said:

Trump has given money to both parties his whole adult life.  He hasn't been a conservative, no kidding.  Trump was unable to drain the swamp, or all the laundry list of changes you've noted, and dozens more than you know nothing about.  You are indeed programmed, and I am not going to waste time pointing out your TDS.  In a year, your perspective may have changed or not.  It really doesn't matter.

Rich men like to buy politicians. No surprise there. He hung around with the Clintons and Jeffrey Epstein. He dated porn stars and strippers behind his immigrant wives' backs - and sometimes in front of them. He cut deals with the mob and got funding from the Russians (as per son Donny Jr). He cheated on his taxes, cheated on his wives, cheated his customers and suppliers, defrauded those who gave money to his phony charity and those who gave money to his phony college, and repeatedly went bankrupt. Drain the swamp? He's been a swamp creature his whole life! The only people who don't recognize this are the cult of trump nutters.  

[sharkman]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Rich men like to buy politicians. No surprise there. He hung around with the Clintons and Jeffrey Epstein. He dated porn stars and strippers behind his immigrant wives' backs - and sometimes in front of them. He cut deals with the mob and got funding from the Russians (as per son Donny Jr). He cheated on his taxes, cheated on his wives, cheated his customers and suppliers, defrauded those who gave money to his phony charity and those who gave money to his phony college, and repeatedly went bankrupt. Drain the swamp? He's been a swamp creature his whole life! The only people who don't recognize this are the cult of trump nutters.  

Look, believe whatever makes you happy.  The internet is full of interesting things...

[I am Groot]

15 hours ago, sharkman said:

Look, believe whatever makes you happy.  The internet is full of interesting things...

Yes. Like facts. You should look some up.