Yale historian Timothy Snyder: How to Stop Fascism

[Deluge]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Wrong again. I posted EVIDENCE and you have NONE.

Evidence of manufactured bullshit. You're a propaganda dispenser, nothing more. 

[User]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Wrong again. I posted EVIDENCE and you have NONE.

No, you posted a screen shot of an article of someone else's opinion... 

When repeatedly asked to actually quote Trump, you run away. 

 

[Legato]

18 hours ago, robosmith said:

Yale historian Timothy Snyder: How to Stop Fascism

Another INTELLECTUAL understands how Trump fits the Hitler paradigm.

A Yale historian would know very little about fascism but a hell of a lot about locks.

[robosmith]

7 minutes ago, Legato said:

A Yale historian would know very little about fascism but a hell of a lot about locks.

Thanks for demonstrating once again just how ignorant and humorless you are.

Don't quit your day job.

[Legato]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for demonstrating once again just how ignorant and humorless you are.

Don't quit your day job.

Daylight hours I rest in my coffin. Beware the dusk to dawn hours, or fit a sturdy Yale lock.

[WestCanMan]

Robodope: Do you know how many secret societies there are in Yale? How wealthy their alumni are on avg? How far back their family wealth goes in a lot of instances?

FYI being a Yale alum doesn't necessarily make one a champion of the poor: there's always a good chance that their ties to old money go as far back as slavery.

And it makes sense that these cultist handlers of yours would be pro-slavery because illegal immigration is basically a form of slavery... people agree to come to the US and live without full rights and equal pay, hoping that one day their kids will be full-fledged US citizens.

Are you really certain that author is looking out for the little guy, robo? I think not. 

That's why, instead of talking about issues that really matter, or talking about the relative successes of the Trump vs Biden administrations, the author is bloviating about "😱 The wisk of Twumpie fashizm!"

It's basically an exercise in "Hey, idjits, look over there! Ignore reality and play along with my fear-mongering!"

Robo: "Oooh, plz tell me more! Me likey likey!"

Edited July 12, 2024 by WestCanMan

[Five of swords]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Fascism it the destruction of civilization. You need a Hitler history lesson.

^Another complete failure at refutation. LMAO

I know quite a lot about Hitler...

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Robodope: Do you know how many secret societies there are in Yale? How wealthy their alumni are on avg? How far back their family wealth goes in a lot of instances?

FYI being a Yale alum doesn't necessarily make one a champion of the poor: there's always a good chance that their ties to old money go as far back as slavery.

And it makes sense that these cultist handlers of yours would be pro-slavery because illegal immigration is basically a form of slavery... people agree to come to the US and live without full rights and equal pay, hoping that one day their kids will be full-fledged US citizens.

Are you really certain that author is looking out for the little guy, robo? I think not. 

That's why, instead of talking about issues that really matter, or talking about the relative successes of the Trump vs Biden administrations, the author is bloviating about "😱 The wisk of Twumpie fashizm!"

It's basically an exercise in "Hey, idjits, look over there! Ignore reality and play along with my fear-mongering!"

Robo: "Oooh, plz tell me more! Me likey likey!"

I hear from Snyder a LOT and know much more about him than YOU.

Yes, I know most have to be wealthy to go to Yale, but somehow one of my poorer HS classmates attended.

Thanks for your FAILURE to respond to the substance of the post. LMAO 

[myata]

Fascism always causes more problems that it claims to solve. Way more orders and orders of magnitude more serious and grotesque. The last time in Germany, was a good demonstration of this rule. Don't touch what smells and tastes bad, you'll regret it. They could have known it even back then, none of that comes for free.

But now we know it with final certainty. It's never a good idea to play with fascism. Or something that edges and itches toward it.

Edited July 12, 2024 by myata

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Deluge said:

Evidence of manufactured bullshit. You're a propaganda dispenser, nothing more. 

No, that is YOU with YOUR OPINIONS. My evidence is from real experts.

[Five of swords]

20 minutes ago, myata said:

Fascism always causes more problems that it claims to solve. Way more orders and orders of magnitude more serious and grotesque. The last time in Germany, was a good demonstration of this rule. Don't touch what smells and tastes bad, you'll regret it. They could have known it even back then, none of that comes for free.

But now we know it with final certainty. It's never a good idea to play with fascism. Or something that edges and itches toward it.

Uh...Hitler was literally the high point of Germany in history. The country flourished under him. What is the lesson supposed to be? Germany was doing so well that the 3 greatest empires on earth became terrified that his ideas would spread so they had to destroy Germany. 

21 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No, that is YOU with YOUR OPINIONS. My evidence is from real experts.

And you can tell they are experts because they reinforce your dogma

[robosmith]

16 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Uh...Hitler was literally the high point of Germany in history. The country flourished under him. What is the lesson supposed to be? Germany was doing so well that the 3 greatest empires on earth became terrified that his ideas would spread so they had to destroy Germany. 

He INVADED neighboring countries and MURDERED millions of civilians. Is that "great" to YOU? 

IF SO, like Hitler, you are EVIL.

16 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

And you can tell they are experts because they reinforce your dogma

No, I can tell they are experts because unlike the BULLSHIT posted here, they are PAID to write about issues most don't even understand.

[Deluge]

39 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No, that is YOU with YOUR OPINIONS. My evidence is from real experts.

Experts in left-wing spin. 

It's time for you f*ckers to be voted out before you start a war. 

 

[User]

40 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No, that is YOU with YOUR OPINIONS. My evidence is from real experts.

No, it was a screenshot of an opinion article title. 

Instead of providing any proof by actually quoting Trump, you run away. 

[Five of swords]

16 minutes ago, robosmith said:

He INVADED neighboring countries and MURDERED millions of civilians. Is that "great" to YOU? 

IF SO, like Hitler, you are EVIL.

No, I can tell they are experts because unlike the BULLSHIT posted here, they are PAID to write about issues most don't even understand.

Uh...Hitler just wanted to unite all the germans in one country. Austria and sudenteland actually voted to become part of Germany. Poland was occupying danzig, which was a German city. It was western powers that declared war on germany and invaded germany.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

Uh...Hitler just wanted to unite all the germans in one country. Austria and sudenteland actually voted to become part of Germany. Poland was occupying danzig, which was a German city. It was western powers that declared war on germany and invaded germany.

German U-boats were SINKING OUR SHIPS well before we entered the war.

I thought you said you knew about Hitler. 

[myata]

2 hours ago, Five of swords said:

Uh...Hitler was literally the high point of Germany in history. The country flourished under him.

There you go, and what comments are needed? We'll just have to choose one. And we knew exactly what we're choosing. No mistakes: not a tiniest, remotest chance.

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

That was litigated in court and partially rolled back. AKA, NOT a crime. Duh

You should stop pretending to KNOW ANYTHING about the law.

You vote for Trump and suffer the consequences. 🤮

Aka...ignoring the laws.

[Five of swords]

30 minutes ago, robosmith said:

German U-boats were SINKING OUR SHIPS well before we entered the war.

I thought you said you knew about Hitler. 

As they should. We were sending munitions to their enemies

[robosmith]

15 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Aka...ignoring the laws.

Nope, overruled. You are confusing POTENTIAL with ACTUAL.

AKA, no money was STOLEN. Duh.

[robosmith]

15 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

As they should. We were sending munitions to their enemies

That is just silly. We had the freedom to ship ANYTHING unrestricted.

You know, I never heard a Hitler apologist sound so stupid.

BTW, the Austrian vote was rigged.

A day before the planned referendum, the German Army crossed the border into Austria on 12 March, unopposed by the Austrian military. A plebiscite was held on 10 April, in which the ballot was not secret, and threats and coercion were employed to manipulate the vote, resulting in 99.7% approval for the Anschluss.

 

Anschluss - Wikipedia

Wikipedia

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And Poland was only the designated administrator of Danzig due to surrender terms from WWI

Holocaust Encyclopedia

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Following World War I, the Treaty of Versailles (1918) declared Danzig to be a free city administered by Poland and the League of Nations.

 

 

Edited July 12, 2024 by robosmith

[suds]

1933 Germany became a dictatorship under the Nazis by creating an emergency (the Reichstag fire) which led to the Enabling Act.....  a law that gave Hitler the power to make and enforce laws without the involvement of the German parliament. It also allowed him to take over complete power of the federal states.  In 1998, Chavez was elected President of Venezuela and immediately set out to replace the 1961 constitution by referendum. Under the new constitution, Chavez was involved in the selection process of selecting governors to head the various federal states. He also began replacing justices on the Supreme court while expanding its size by more than half. In both cases, the paths to dictatorship was nearly complete. So let's assume that Trump wins the 2024 Presidency and has ambitions of being a dictator. Exactly, how would he go about doing this? It's a question I'd like to put to Timothy Snyder.

Edited July 12, 2024 by suds

[Five of swords]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

That is just silly. We had the freedom to ship ANYTHING unrestricted.

You know, I never heard a Hitler apologist sound so stupid.

BTW, the Austrian vote was rigged.

A day before the planned referendum, the German Army crossed the border into Austria on 12 March, unopposed by the Austrian military. A plebiscite was held on 10 April, in which the ballot was not secret, and threats and coercion were employed to manipulate the vote, resulting in 99.7% approval for the Anschluss.

 

Anschluss - Wikipedia

Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 

And Poland was only the designated administrator of Danzig due to surrender terms from WWI

Holocaust Encyclopedia

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org › content › article › dan...

 

 

 

 

Following World War I, the Treaty of Versailles (1918) declared Danzig to be a free city administered by Poland and the League of Nations.

 

 

No, danzig was supposed to be a free and independent city. And Austria totally wanted to join germany...Germany actually had a functioning economy.

 

And wtf lol. So Germany also has the right to torpedo any boats unrestricted. Just don't get caught, I guess 

Edited July 12, 2024 by Five of swords

[WestCanMan]

59 minutes ago, suds said:

So let's assume that Trump wins the 2024 Presidency and has ambitions of being a dictator. Exactly, how would he go about doing this? 

He'd need control of the federal police force, like the dems have. Then he could use them to persecute his political foes, like the Dems have been doing since the beginning of the Russian collusion show trial. He could also get them to run cover for him, like they did for Biden, with the Hunter laptop coverup. He could get them to retrieve things, like his daughter's diary. He could get them to run entrapment schemes on his political opponents: certainly the FBI could round up a dozen Demis in a plot to assassinate Trump (as per the wishes of Hollywood) and then coincidentally make the arrests a month before the 2028 election.

Along with the FBI he'd need control of the DOJ, like the Dems have. Investigations into his political opponents would be never-ending, like the ones against Trump. He could get them convicted of things that no one even imagined.

He'd probably try to throw a few more SCJs on the bench, like the Dems tried to do, just to ensure that everything he runs through one of his sham courtrooms gets written in stone at the SC. 

He'd need to get control of the MSM, so that they could lie for him, like they currently do for the Dems. They could also give him debate questions, like they do for the Dems.  

I guess that the best way to go about becoming a dictator would be to do exactly what the Dems have done.

What do you think, suds? Do dictators control the police forces, DOJs, SC's and MSM in their country? Nah....

[suds]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

What do you think, suds? Do dictators control the police forces, DOJs, SC's and MSM in their country? Nah....

Good points! And it's why I fear the democrats far more than I do the republicans. More specifically though, how would the President take control of the legislative branch without major amendments to the constitution? It would require far more than a simple referendum or a law passed by a packed legislature. And what about the individual states themselves, who I doubt would go along with any of this and who have their own militias?