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Posted
7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

There are links. Click on the titles in red.

Oh, OK.  Thanks.

Erm, your first link actually agrees with the studies that confirm the contamination and the studies that explain the mechanisms for harm.

I'll add - when Moderna was studying the contamination (again, this is years before the jabs) the issue that was of greatest concern was that the contamination caused oncological problems.  So, they already knew before they rolled them out.

"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It's merely your own opinion that everything you've posted as evidence is also called science.

Well, I have mostly posted peer reviewed scientific studies because I know "peer review" is important to some here.  When I have posted studies not yet peer reviewed, I have said so right at the beginning of the post....  And if it's an opinion piece, I point out that it is an opinion piece.

How are scientific studies "NOT SCIENCE"?  First you want peer reviewed studies, then when they are provided, you claim that is "not science."

You're not making sense.

As usual.

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~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Posted
Just now, Goddess said:

Obviously not.  There's hundreds of billions of fragments in them.

That can probably be automated.

Just now, Goddess said:

Heart issues, immunological or neurological conditions are more likely.

Those haven't happened either. At least they are not apparent.

Even if they did happen, COVID has had insidious long term effects, too

Just now, Goddess said:

There's a new database study using data from VAERS showing that Moderna has  30% higher rate of death than Pfizer.  So....good for you?

VAERS means nothing but as a guide, since there is NO VERIFICATION of the vast majority of the data there.

Was the 30% higher the 12 that died from Myocarditis?

Nov 3, 2023  Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis is ...

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, robosmith said:

That can probably be automated.

Hahaha, too late now, though.

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Those haven't happened either. At least they are not apparent.

Yes, we won't know for about 10-15 years.

Whhhheeeeee! Medical experimentation on humans is fun!

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

VAERS means nothing but as a guide, since there is NO VERIFICATION of the vast majority of the data there.

Oh, OK.  So they forced billions of people to inject an experimental product multiple times with NO WAY to monitor adverse events or how the experiment is going.

That's.....not reassuring.

You see now why some have a problem with this whole thing?

"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Posted
3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

First you want peer reviewed studies, then when they are provided, you claim that is "not science.

What I'm claiming is that you're a loon - that's peer reviewed all the time around here.

5 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You're not making sense.

As usual.

You're not making science. 

As always.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
Just now, eyeball said:

What I'm claiming is that you're a loon - that's peer reviewed all the time around here.

You're not making science. 

As always.

It's amusing how hostile you get whenever you make a fool of yourself and get proved wrong. 🤣

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Hahaha, too late now, though.

Yes, we won't know for about 10-15 years.

Whhhheeeeee! Medical experimentation on humans is fun!

Oh, OK.  So they forced billions of people to inject an experimental product multiple times with NO WAY to monitor adverse events or how the experiment is going.

That's.....not reassuring.

You see now why some have a problem with this whole thing?

There isn't "no way of monitoring," they just have to filter out all the false entries from activists trying to manipulate the data.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Goddess said:

It's amusing how hostile you get whenever you make a fool of yourself and get proved wrong. 🤣

LOL i've noted that to him myself a time or two. 

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Posted
5 minutes ago, Goddess said:

It's amusing how hostile you get whenever you make a fool of yourself and get proved wrong. 🤣

Hostile? No, amused is far more closer to the truth.

Proved wrong how, with dingle-nuts op-ed piece?

🤣

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
12 minutes ago, robosmith said:

they just have to filter out all the false entries from activists trying to manipulate the data.

How big of a problem do you think that is, given it is punishable by fines and imprisonment?

Everything I've read, the biggest problem with VAERS is the under-reporting.

"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Posted
On 7/13/2024 at 1:24 PM, Michael Hardner said:

1. The peer-reviewed papers are about the science... Not about the economics, and those proposed solutions, which are more in the political economy realm. 

You're asking us to prove something.... Why don't you prove that this drag on the economy can be enumerated and that is significant?  That would be a good starting point.

2. All caps is an emotional thing.  Emotional folks aren't going to be able to engage in dispassionate analysis.  Not a good start for a discussion that you look for to make on the basis of reason.

And who is in the way? All the countries of the world who have signed on? Or the people who claim that it's not happening or that no response is warranted? It feels like the people in the way are the ones who don't want to do anything.

Something that is peer reviewed is about as useless as work boots for a Democrat. Galileo was persecuted by peer reviews.

You want proof that junk science about climate change was a drag on the economy? HOW ABOUT THE LAST THREE YEARS OF THE UNELECTED BIDEN REGIME? Where do you think that old pedophile got the idea to torpedo domestic energy production and send energy prices sky high? Senile Joe was doing the bidding of THE SQUAD and their hysteria about the non existent climate change fairy tale.

All caps is about emphasis. Pretty much every piece of literature has occasions to present emphasis in that vein. Just shows me you goose steppers here aren't exactly schooled readers. I suppose I could dumb down my responses for your small, uneducated brains to handle, but I'm not good at creating graphics for you to color in.

Posted

Boys and girls, once again the HEAD NAZI here (HOMOsmith) trots out that stupid term "troll" when he loses an argument. He is not even being original. Virtually EVERY political message board has its share of uneducated !diots who lose arguments and do not have the brains to respond with anything other than namecalling.

And their total lack of education narrows that insult lexicon to one term:  TROLL.

The proper definition of "troll" (at least in modern web language) is a person who post ONLY to start trouble and not try to participate in any other way.

In intelligent forums, you rarely see that word, because educated posters will debate  and disagree and take no  prisoners. (Usually, those forums have red state people who have superior educations.)

At this forum, I have agreed with those who are right and disagreed with those who are wrong. That does not make me a troll.

For you goose steppers, that makes me smarter than you.  It makes Florida  public school third graders smarter than you.

 

GROW UP, GOOSE STEPPERS.

Posted
54 minutes ago, robosmith said:

There isn't "no way of monitoring," they just have to filter out all the false entries from activists trying to manipulate the data.

Did you know that 85% of ALL death reports in the entire history of VAERS are from the covid injections?

That would indicate a signal that should be investigated.

"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Posted
55 minutes ago, Goddess said:

How big of a problem do you think that is, given it is punishable by fines and imprisonment?

Only thing I could find on that is:

Quote

Knowingly filing a false VAERS report is a violation of Federal law (18 U.S. Code § 1001) punishable by fine and imprisonment.

IMO, Many activists are willing to take their chances knowing that prosecution is very unlikely.

They are reporting SYMPTOMS, and how can anyone prove they didn't have or think they had them.

55 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Everything I've read, the biggest problem with VAERS is the under-reporting.

Maybe true, but that's not much of a problem. If the problem is SERIOUS the hospital or doctor will report it.

I had an adverse reaction to my 5th shot, literal pain in the ass; and didn't report it.

20 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Did you know that 85% of ALL death reports in the entire history of VAERS are from the covid injections?

That would indicate a signal that should be investigated.

Read this and find out WHY. ㊙️ that doesn't mean much.

Posted
11 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Only thing I could find on that is:

IMO, Many activists are willing to take their chances knowing that prosecution is very unlikely.

They are reporting SYMPTOMS, and how can anyone prove they didn't have or think they had them.

Maybe true, but that's not much of a problem. If the problem is SERIOUS the hospital or doctor will report it.

I had an adverse reaction to my 5th shot, literal pain in the ass; and didn't report it.

Read this and find out WHY. ㊙️ that doesn't mean much.

So again you are arguing that there is NO WAY to monitor adverse events from these experimental injections.

And that's a good thing.......why?

"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for pointing out the evidence for what I SAID. The SPR gave us an economic hedge to compensate for the sanctions against Russia for the INVASION.

That's what IT'S FOR. So we're NOT FORCED to capitulate to foreign oil manipulation. Duh

You didn't even read it, or you really are as dumb as I figure.

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Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
50 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

You didn't even red it, or you really are as dumb as I figure.

Two things can be true. 

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Posted
20 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Two things can be true. 

Sadly...

I'm watching Trump's lawyer talk at the convention. Man. The guy simply surrounds himself with beautiful women.

Anyway...his speech comes soon. Good ol' robo will have a fit.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
3 hours ago, eyeball said:

What I'm claiming is that you're a loon - that's peer reviewed all the time around here.

You're not making science. 

As always.

Eyeball...you're in way over your head here.

@Goddess go at it. I learn so much about the jabs from you. I never felt comfortable with genetic material being shot into people. It just smells like the story line for a horror movie.

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Posted
30 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Eyeball...you're in way over your head here.

Says the guy who follows the advice of someone that believes a serial mass murdering White House Chief Medical Advisor engineered COVID.

For shits, giggles, profit, fame...who knows?

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
8 hours ago, eyeball said:

Says the guy who follows the advice of someone that believes a serial mass murdering White House Chief Medical Advisor engineered COVID.

For shits, giggles, profit, fame...who knows?

I didn't say Fauci engineered The Rona. I said he used taxpayer money to fund it's engineering. And he did.

You Libbies just can't help yourselves can you. You lie constantly. 

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I didn't say Fauci engineered The Rona.

C'mon...be loud be proud...you know you wanna!

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
1 hour ago, eyeball said:

C'mon...be loud be proud...you know you wanna!

as usual, when backed into a corner you turn to dishonesty.  Why? If you find yourself having to lie as much as you do to make your point - doesn't that tell you that you don't have much of a point and maybe you're on the wrong side?

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Posted
45 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

...when backed into a corner...

What corner, you mean actually think it's bullshit that Fauci is a mass murderer? Good, have you tried clearing up your precious Goddess' confusion?

How'd that work out for you?

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
15 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I never felt comfortable with genetic material being shot into people.

Yaaaaaa, that's why they didn't tell people that the jabs were genetic therapy, and not "vaccines" - most people wouldn't have taken them had they known.

The question scientists are trying to answer now (way too late) is:  Now that we know these jabs are altering DNA, what does that mean for fertility/future generations?

So far, the answer from the pro-jab people is "Just don't worry about it, nothing bad will happen."

I don't find that reassuring, after these same people have lied repeatedly about the jabs.

 

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