Deluge Posted July 8, 2024 Report Posted July 8, 2024 On 7/5/2024 at 5:09 PM, robosmith said: What Kind of ‘Psycho’ Calls Dead Americans ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’? Cadet Bone Spurs is UNQUALIFIED to be CnC, cause he is a loser and a sucker. Quote
robosmith Posted July 8, 2024 Author Report Posted July 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, ironstone said: And this is the man they're going to wake up in the wee hours of the morning to inform about some kind of serious crisis? Or is it Obama that gets woken up? Of course they'll wake up Joe, your BULLSHIT notwithstanding. Joe has been doing a very decent job of managing TWO foreign wars without any US citizens being killed (except for a couple who joined the Ukrainian side against the advice of the State Dept). Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 8, 2024 Report Posted July 8, 2024 7 hours ago, robosmith said: Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’ John Kelly confirms Trump called soldiers who died for ... Washington Times https://www.washingtontimes.com › news › oct › john-... Oct 3, 2023 — Former White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly has ... John Kelly confirms Trump called soldiers who died for U.S. 'losers' and 'suckers'. Your problem is that you and reality don't know each other. Quote President Trump’s scheduled visit to a cemetery with American casualties from World War I was canceled over the weekend in France, though he attended a similar event at a different cemetery the following day. On Saturday, the President was supposed to hold a moment of silence and place a wreath to commemorate the lost personnel, however, the White House attributed the cancellation to bad weather, The Associated Press reported Saturday. President Trump reportedly had no say in the decision, as the Marine Corps and White House Military Office made the determination collaboratively with the Secret Service that Paris’ overcast and rainy conditions posed too much risk for Marine One to fly to Aisne-Marne, which is about 60 miles northeast of Paris. https://americanmilitarynews.com/2018/11/explained-the-controversy-over-trump-not-visiting-one-us-cemetery-in-the-rain-for-another/ As for Kelly, this is what he actually said: Quote What can I add that has not already been said? A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them.' A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France. https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/06/28/trump-soldiers-suckers-losers-2/ He's saying that Trump brought those things up at other times. But he is not saying it happened that day. John Kelly was fired, though. Do you always, automatically believe fired employees? Especially the ones that denied anything happened until after they were fired? You need to get a grip on reality. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If all else fails, just be angry.
robosmith Posted July 8, 2024 Author Report Posted July 8, 2024 Lost Track of Trump’s Weekend Verbal Gaffes? Here’s a Full List. Quote
User Posted July 8, 2024 Report Posted July 8, 2024 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: Joe has been doing a very decent job of managing TWO foreign wars without any US citizens being killed (except for a couple who joined the Ukrainian side against the advice of the State Dept). He is not "managing" anything. They are not our wars. All we are doing is helping people with supplies and $$$ in both. And if Biden would get out of Israel's way, that could mostly be over with by now. Biden has been supporting Hamas and hindering Israel. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
robosmith Posted July 8, 2024 Author Report Posted July 8, 2024 3 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Your problem is that you and reality don't know each other. As for Kelly, this is what he actually said: He's saying that Trump brought those things up at other times. But he is not saying it happened that day. John Kelly was fired, though. Do you always, automatically believe fired employees? Especially the ones that denied anything happened until after they were fired? You need to get a grip on reality. Of course Kelly was fired AFTER he made the box look terrible. That is REALITY. Duh 1 minute ago, User said: He is not "managing" anything. They are not our wars. All we are doing is helping people with supplies and $$$ in both. Of course, that's what MANAGERS DO. Duh 1 minute ago, User said: And if Biden would get out of Israel's way, that could mostly be over with by now. Biden has been supporting Hamas and hindering Israel. I'll take Joe's assessment over yours everyday and twice on Sunday, SUCKER. Quote
User Posted July 8, 2024 Report Posted July 8, 2024 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: Of course, that's what MANAGERS DO. Duh You apparently have zero managerial experience. 6 minutes ago, robosmith said: I'll take Joe's assessment over yours everyday and twice on Sunday, SUCKER. Of course, because you push the same Hamas propaganda. 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
CdnFox Posted July 8, 2024 Report Posted July 8, 2024 1 hour ago, ironstone said: And this is the man they're going to wake up in the wee hours of the morning to inform about some kind of serious crisis? Or is it Obama that gets woken up? Well apparently he's still fairly lucid between 10 and 4:00, so as long as we can get america's enemies to sign on that they promise not to attack outside of those hours who should be okay. More or less. Quote
Hodad Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 On 7/7/2024 at 10:37 PM, User said: You can't get past this one time, that is anything but confirmed as more people say he didn't say it than did. It's not one time. It's many times, in many places and contexts in reference to many types of service personnel. Quote He attacked John McCain. I have already addressed this, since you are in the habit of ignoring what I have already said: "Yes, not all veterans. This is a stupid dishonest game folks like you try to play where you act like insulting one person is somehow insulting everyone of whatever demographic you are using this time. " Bullshit. He didn't attack John McCain, who just happens to be a POW. He attacked him on the basis of being a POW. (Not a hero for being captured, Trump likes people who weren't captured.) His derision applies to every POW. Quote Yeah, how brave, in 2023 he comes out to give this "exclusive" I have a great deal of respect for the man and when Trump fired him it was one of the biggest things he did that I did not approve of, but I am no fan of people coming out years after the fact like this... they lose a lot of credibility with me. If he had any integrity, he would have come out when it happened... as alleged. Yeah, the people who used to aid and defend Trump... wait until after the fact to say these things. Even then, you are not talking to a Trump sychophant. I don't like the guy for any number of reasons, but I am not going to chop my nose off to spite my face. Trump is the best of two evils for me now, but that doesn't mean I am going to buy into all these lame attacks or outright lies that the left pushes about him. There are lots of reasons people IN the administration don't speak out. People are freer to talk after they leave. You claim not to be a Trump sycophant, but you're twisting yourself into pretzels to weave an alternate reality and dismiss and diminish criticism that is broad and sourced almost exclusively from people who worked shoulder-to-shoulder with Trump. When someone shows you who they are, believe them. When their closest confidants and collaborators confirm it, believe them. Again, you're welcome to say that his disdain for service, service members (especially the disables, POW and KIA) is A-okay in your book. You're welcome to say that you'll give power to an awful human being in the hope that he delivers policy that you think it good. But don't bullshit us by pretending reality isn't reality. Just own it and move on. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted July 9, 2024 Author Report Posted July 9, 2024 On 7/8/2024 at 7:47 AM, User said: You apparently have zero managerial experience. You apparently STILL don't know what you're talking about. On 7/8/2024 at 7:47 AM, User said: Of course, because you push the same Hamas propaganda. I have NEVER pushed Hamas ANYTHING, LIER. Neither Hamas nor Netanyahu have ANY credibility. Quote
Nationalist Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/ LOL...Poor Libbies...you're fcked. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/ LOL...Poor Libbies...you're fcked. Looks like he's got most of the swing states too athough some might be close. And he hasn't even been campaigning. He's learned the value of not interrupting his opponent when they're screwing up, something he didn't get with hillary. So when the new cycle starts to slow down on biden being incompetent he can jump back in and pick up momentum and scoop some indy voters. I have said in the past that contrary to some people's opinion trump has never been a very good campaigner. But he has really improved this time out and while I wouldn't call his campaign brilliant, it's a lot more solid than it has been in the past. If he keeps up like this he will definitely be president again. Biden is going to continue to be the center of negative attention and then suddenly trump will be put front and center in the media at the convention and announce his running mate and be all the media talks about in a more positive light for a week That means Biden is going to start this race off with negative momentum and that's always really hard to recover from 1 Quote
User Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Hodad said: It's not one time. It's many times, in many places and contexts in reference to many types of service personnel. Except, it is not. This is the only example you got and the one Biden and team have to repeat over and over again. 1 hour ago, Hodad said: Bullshit. He didn't attack John McCain, who just happens to be a POW. He attacked him on the basis of being a POW. (Not a hero for being captured, Trump likes people who weren't captured.) His derision applies to every POW. BS what? He was insulting McCain, not all POW's. 1 hour ago, Hodad said: There are lots of reasons people IN the administration don't speak out. People are freer to talk after they leave. Years later? Yeah right. And to the point of integrity, if he felt like he did, he should have said something then. 1 hour ago, Hodad said: You claim not to be a Trump sycophant, but you're twisting yourself into pretzels to weave an alternate reality and dismiss and diminish criticism that is broad and sourced almost exclusively from people who worked shoulder-to-shoulder with Trump. When someone shows you who they are, believe them. When their closest confidants and collaborators confirm it, believe them. What exactly is it that I am twisting myself into pretzels about here? My position is quite simple and factual. You are the one who is trying to contort an alleged bad comment said that most people deny him saying into something more than it is. Why don't you believe the majority of his closest confidants who reject this allegation? 1 hour ago, Hodad said: Again, you're welcome to say that his disdain for service, service members (especially the disables, POW and KIA) is A-okay in your book. You're welcome to say that you'll give power to an awful human being in the hope that he delivers policy that you think it good. But don't bullshit us by pretending reality isn't reality. Just own it and move on. I deal in facts. You, not so much. What is this "disdain for service, service members you speak of? So far you have him insulting McCain and an allegation he said something that most people say he didn't. 1 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Hodad Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 1 hour ago, User said: Except, it is not. This is the only example you got and the one Biden and team have to repeat over and over again. BS what? He was insulting McCain, not all POW's. Years later? Yeah right. And to the point of integrity, if he felt like he did, he should have said something then. What exactly is it that I am twisting myself into pretzels about here? My position is quite simple and factual. You are the one who is trying to contort an alleged bad comment said that most people deny him saying into something more than it is. Why don't you believe the majority of his closest confidants who reject this allegation? I deal in facts. You, not so much. What is this "disdain for service, service members you speak of? So far you have him insulting McCain and an allegation he said something that most people say he didn't. WTF? Read the OP. Read the article I posted. This is not a one off comment or aberration. Again, multiple comments, multiple contexts and multiple classes of veterans. And no, he insulted all POWs. His argument was that people who get captured aren't heroes, instead he "likes" people who weren't captured. That's not just McCain, it's every POW. 2 Quote
robosmith Posted July 9, 2024 Author Report Posted July 9, 2024 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/ LOL...Poor Libbies...you're fcked. You're celebrating a 2% bump? LMAO Quote
Nationalist Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: Looks like he's got most of the swing states too athough some might be close. And he hasn't even been campaigning. He's learned the value of not interrupting his opponent when they're screwing up, something he didn't get with hillary. So when the new cycle starts to slow down on biden being incompetent he can jump back in and pick up momentum and scoop some indy voters. I have said in the past that contrary to some people's opinion trump has never been a very good campaigner. But he has really improved this time out and while I wouldn't call his campaign brilliant, it's a lot more solid than it has been in the past. If he keeps up like this he will definitely be president again. Biden is going to continue to be the center of negative attention and then suddenly trump will be put front and center in the media at the convention and announce his running mate and be all the media talks about in a more positive light for a week That means Biden is going to start this race off with negative momentum and that's always really hard to recover from Yup...Listening to Miss Karine Jean-Pierre...try to talk about how the Democrats are solid behind Brandon. Its really pathetic. The press doesn't appear to be buyin' it. Go figure... But...if your opponent wants to beat himself up...let 'im. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 52 minutes ago, robosmith said: You're celebrating a 2% bump? LMAO And growing weekly...YES! Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 18 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Yup...Listening to Miss Karine Jean-Pierre...try to talk about how the Democrats are solid behind Brandon. Its really pathetic. The press doesn't appear to be buyin' it. Go figure... But...if your opponent wants to beat himself up...let 'im. LOL precisely I mean the dems have to say they're solidly behind him right till they're not because otherwise they may really get screwed. And he has to say he's never going to quit right until he does for the same reasons. We'll see. But either way to put it in pilots terms Biden AND the dems in general are in a very low energy state right now and trump is in a high energy state. Biden has to put all his energy into not stalling and crashing, where as trump can pick and choose his times to jump in and score points. Momentum is everything in a campaign. And now joe has to find a way to cause trump to lose momentum and reverse his own negative momentum and get back into positive momentum, and while that can be done it's very challenging and i just don't think he's got it in him. Having said that - i'd say trump's chances of jail time from his trial just shot up dramatically. Quote
User Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Hodad said: WTF? Read the OP. Read the article I posted. This is not a one off comment or aberration. Again, multiple comments, multiple contexts and multiple classes of veterans. And no, he insulted all POWs. His argument was that people who get captured aren't heroes, instead he "likes" people who weren't captured. That's not just McCain, it's every POW. Of course, it is a one-off and an aberration. Trump is a circus clown who attacks people. That doesn't mean he is attacking all POW's. You are still here hung up on the same two examples. That is all you got. It is almost entirely behind closed doors things Trump is accused of saying or doing that can never be vetted as truthful or not. You want to believe what you want to believe. You sit here asking why I don't listen to these people when you also don't listen to most people who don't confirm what you want to hear. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Nationalist Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: LOL precisely I mean the dems have to say they're solidly behind him right till they're not because otherwise they may really get screwed. And he has to say he's never going to quit right until he does for the same reasons. We'll see. But either way to put it in pilots terms Biden AND the dems in general are in a very low energy state right now and trump is in a high energy state. Biden has to put all his energy into not stalling and crashing, where as trump can pick and choose his times to jump in and score points. Momentum is everything in a campaign. And now joe has to find a way to cause trump to lose momentum and reverse his own negative momentum and get back into positive momentum, and while that can be done it's very challenging and i just don't think he's got it in him. Having said that - i'd say trump's chances of jail time from his trial just shot up dramatically. Huh...ya got a point there. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Moonbox Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 16 minutes ago, User said: You are still here hung up on the same two examples. That is all you got. It is almost entirely behind closed doors things Trump is accused of saying or doing that can never be vetted as truthful or not. The obvious and public examples lends credibility to the ones behind closed doors. As you say, he's a circus clown that attacks people. He also has literally zero credibility, so it's fascinating to see people like you try to rationalize why you'd give him the benefit of the doubt. The endless parade of critics he has from his former inner circle should raise questions for a reasonable mind, but instead: 16 minutes ago, User said: You want to believe what you want to believe. I couldn't have said that better myself. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
reason10 Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 On 7/5/2024 at 7:09 PM, robosmith said: What Kind of ‘Psycho’ Calls Dead Americans ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’? Cadet Bone Spurs is UNQUALIFIED to be CnC, cause he is a loser and a sucker. That story is a LIE and the @ssholes who tell that story are LIARS. LEGALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS NEVER CALLED A DEAD OR LIVE SOLDER A SUCKER OR LOSER. You are a LIAR. Quote
User Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: The obvious and public examples lends credibility to the ones behind closed doors. As you say, he's a circus clown that attacks people. He also has literally zero credibility, so it's fascinating to see people like you try to rationalize why you'd give him the benefit of the doubt. The endless parade of critics he has from his former inner circle should raise questions for a reasonable mind, but instead: What public examples? Again, the incident in question here was behind closed doors, it is the one that Biden is constantly pushing. Yes, he does attack people, but he has no such pattern of generally attacking veterans or service members. He does have a pattern of being nice to them, saying good things about them, and honoring them. 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: I couldn't have said that better myself. You choose to ignore the 99% of his day to day life and act like this contested example is all the proof you need. I am the one being honest here about the facts. 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
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