Military was following 'legal orders' to try to rescue Afghan Sikhs, Gen. Eyre says

[blackbird]

This is a surprising revelation, but I guess we shouldn't be too surprised with what the Liberal government under Trudeau has been doing.  New shocking revelations seem to come out regularly.  After all Trudeau's gang has been sending billions of dollars all over the world for various causes.  Money is of no concern.  Putting people with a foreign religion in charge of a major government department with this kind of result should come as no surprise.  What is next?

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OTTAWA — The Canadian Armed Forces was following "legal orders" when it tried to rescue a group of Afghan Sikhs during the fall of Kabul three years ago, Chief of Defence Staff Gen. Wayne Eyre said.

Eyre's comment came as former defence minister Harjit Sajjan explained his decision to intervene on behalf of a group of around 200 Afghan Sikhs who were trapped along with thousands of others in August 2021.

Sajjan said in a statement that he passed along information through "appropriate" channels that he had been given about the group's whereabouts and that doing so was in line with government policy to help vulnerable groups on the ground in Afghanistan.

Sajjan said he did not instruct the forces to prioritize this group above Canadians or Afghan interpreters, who aided Canadian soldiers during previous operations.

In an interview with The Canadian Press, Eyre said the military was following "legal orders" when it made an effort to specifically help the group of Afghan Sikhs."

Military was following 'legal orders' to try to rescue Afghan Sikhs, Gen. Eyre says (msn.com)

 

 

 

[blackbird]

"Utter BS": Sajjan responds to allegations he instructed Canadian special forces to rescue Afghan Sikhs | Watch (msn.com)

[ExFlyer]

What is your beef? Are you blaming the Military for something??

The Military is subservient to the government. They have to do what they are told.

What is your problem with this??

 

[eyeball]

On 6/30/2024 at 12:01 PM, ExFlyer said:

What is your beef? Are you blaming the Military for something??

The Military is subservient to the government. They have to do what they are told.

What is your problem with this??

He seems to think the military is subservient to a Sikh who ordered it to act on behalf of other Sikhs.

Presumably he'd be fine with this if we were talking about Christians.

[blackbird]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Presumably he'd be fine with this if we were talking about Christians.

"In 2021, Harjit Sajjan, a Sikh Canadian, was the Minister of National Defence of Canada. That was a turbulent time when the US and its allies were rushing to exit Afghanistan amid a Taliban takeover of the war-ravaged country. Harjit Sajjan instructed the Canadian Armed Forces to prioritise the rescue of 225 Afghan Sikhs and allocated resources meant for Canadians to them, according to a news report.This is claimed to have affected the evacuation of those on the priority list for Canada.

According to a recent report by Canadian newspaper The Globe and Mail, Harjit Sajjan, then Canada's defence minister, used the resources allocated to Canadian citizens and Afghans linked to Canada and used them to help Afghan Sikhs. He even ordered that the Afghan Sikhs be rescued first."

"However, the Globe and Mail report, citing three officials of Canadian forces, refutes Sajjan's claims, and shows he ordered the airlifting of the over 200 Afghan Sikhs, prioritising them over Canadians or those linked to Canada."

Rescue Afghan Sikhs first: Row over Canada ex-minister Harjit Sajjan's order (msn.com)

According to the allegations, Sajjan is accused of prioritizing resources meant for Canadian citizens and Afghans linked to Canada and using the resources to help Afghan Sikhs who had no connection to Canada or Canada's mission in Afghanistan.

Edited Tuesday at 02:45 PM by blackbird

[ExFlyer]

59 minutes ago, blackbird said:

"In 2021, Harjit Sajjan, a Sikh Canadian, was the Minister of National Defence of Canada. That was a turbulent time when the US and its allies were rushing to exit Afghanistan amid a Taliban takeover of the war-ravaged country. Harjit Sajjan instructed the Canadian Armed Forces to prioritise the rescue of 225 Afghan Sikhs and allocated resources meant for Canadians to them, according to a news report.This is claimed to have affected the evacuation of those on the priority list for Canada.

According to a recent report by Canadian newspaper The Globe and Mail, Harjit Sajjan, then Canada's defence minister, used the resources allocated to Canadian citizens and Afghans linked to Canada and used them to help Afghan Sikhs. He even ordered that the Afghan Sikhs be rescued first."

"However, the Globe and Mail report, citing three officials of Canadian forces, refutes Sajjan's claims, and shows he ordered the airlifting of the over 200 Afghan Sikhs, prioritising them over Canadians or those linked to Canada."

Rescue Afghan Sikhs first: Row over Canada ex-minister Harjit Sajjan's order (msn.com)

According to the allegations, Sajjan is accused of prioritizing resources meant for Canadian citizens and Afghans linked to Canada and using the resources to help Afghan Sikhs who had no connection to Canada or Canada's mission in Afghanistan.

So, you finally realize the military was doing what it was told to do, as it always does.

You do nio complain about the Canadian Christians or jews or other religions being evacuated.

You F'n hypocrite!!!

[Queenmandy85]

On 6/28/2024 at 11:45 AM, blackbird said:

Putting people with a foreign religion

Sikhism is no more foreign than Christianity. Islam, Christianity, Sikhism, Hinduism, Judaism, and Zoroasterism are all very new arrivals to Canada. People have worshipped God in hundreds of different ways in Canada in the last 5000 years. My dad went to work in Butedale in 1925 and his supervisor was a Sikh who had lived in BC for years. God doesn't give a tinker's curse what religion you are, as long as live your life as God wants. Be a good person.

[blackbird]

42 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Sikhism is no more foreign than Christianity. Islam, Christianity, Sikhism, Hinduism, Judaism, and Zoroasterism are all very new arrivals to Canada. People have worshipped God in hundreds of different ways in Canada in the last 5000 years. My dad went to work in Butedale in 1925 and his supervisor was a Sikh who had lived in BC for years. God doesn't give a tinker's curse what religion you are, as long as live your life as God wants. Be a good person.

Aside from your haywire comments on religion, you missed the main point entirely.  This was not a question of rescuing one religion over another.   The Canadian mission was to get Canadians and those who worked for the Canadians Forces in Afghanistan out of the danger of the Taliban.  The resources Canada sent there were not for the purpose of rescuing people from other countries that had nothing to do with Canada's military mission there.

This has nothing to do with picking one religion over another.

""However, the Globe and Mail report, citing three officials of Canadian forces, refutes Sajjan's claims, and shows he ordered the airlifting of the over 200 Afghan Sikhs, prioritising them over Canadians or those linked to Canada."

These 200 Afghan Sikhs had nothing to do with Canada's mission there.  They were apparently given priority over Canadians and those who worked for Canada there because they were Sikhs.

The mission was for the purpose of rescuing Canadians and those linked to Canada, not rescuing people of other nationalities that had nothing to do with Canada being there.

 

Edited Wednesday at 01:43 AM by blackbird

[Army Guy]

18 hours ago, eyeball said:

He seems to think the military is subservient to a Sikh who ordered it to act on behalf of other Sikhs.

Presumably he'd be fine with this if we were talking about Christians.

I think the minister of national defense used his position to make this mission possible, and is now trying to say he did not order the military just passed the info down the chain of command...

He should know as being ex military himself the military does not interrupted requests from the top, they                              ( military)determine if those orders are legal, then carry them out...like what happened in this case...why would he pass this info down if he did not want it actioned...i mean there was maybe 200 different organizations , religions, races on the ground all needing rescue...but his info chose a specific group and info on their whereabouts....

He has gotten himself into hot water, the military did what they were asked to do...

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Sikhism is no more foreign than Christianity. Islam, Christianity, Sikhism, Hinduism, Judaism, and Zoroasterism are all very new arrivals to Canada. People have worshipped God in hundreds of different ways in Canada in the last 5000 years. My dad went to work in Butedale in 1925 and his supervisor was a Sikh who had lived in BC for years. God doesn't give a tinker's curse what religion you are, as long as live your life as God wants. Be a good person.

It appears you commented after reading other ignorant comments attacking me rather than reading the OP.  The OP was not about one religion versus another.

[blackbird]

10 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

So, you finally realize the military was doing what it was told to do, as it always does.

You do nio complain about the Canadian Christians or jews or other religions being evacuated.

You F'n hypocrite!!!

The article or OP was not about rescuing one religion over another.  It was Saijan allegedly ordering the rescue of 200 people who were not part of the plan to evacuate Canadians and those who helped Canadians in Afghanistan.  Obviously he was doing it because they were Sikhs.

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The article or OP was not about rescuing one religion over another.  It was Saijan allegedly ordering the rescue of 200 people who were not part of the plan to evacuate Canadians and those who helped Canadians in Afghanistan.  Obviously he was doing it because they were Sikhs.

Now you know I am the first person in the entire universe to criticize the liberals or any of their minions activities whenever appropriate.

But I think in times of war things can be extremely confusing, information can be going both ways and the situation can be changing rapidly, and I think that sometimes there isn't a lot of time for thought and if you see an opportunity to do something you just do it. You don't consider it in the context of the larger picture.

It kind of sounds like that's what happened here. Not so much hey let's not get our guys out as much as hey I don't know what the heck is going on but I know these guys are here and we can get them, go right now.

I'm sure if they had months to plan for everything they might have done things differently, but that was a hectic, scary, fluid, dangerous situation. I'm sure they wish they could have gotten everybody out.

I think this one has to get chalked up to the fog of war.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Army Guy said:

He has gotten himself into hot water, the military did what they were asked to do...

Okay but this still wouldn't be an issue if it only involved Christians.

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Okay but this still wouldn't be an issue if it only involved Christians.

Sadly, this seems too hard for you to understand.  The Canadian mission was to give Canadians and Afghans who worked for Canadians the highest priority for evacuation from Afghanistan.   The reports say Sajjan interfered with that priority and directed that 200 non-Canadians, who happened to be Sikhs, be brought out ahead of the Canadians and those who helped Canadians.

The 200 Sikhs had nothing to do with Canada's mission there during the previous conflict.  It appears Sajjan may have been lobbied by a Sikh organization in Canada to bring them out ahead of the Canadians and those who helped Canadian Forces in Afghanistan during the war.

There was nothing in the news report about choosing between bringing Christians or Sikhs out.  That was not the issue at all.  It is something you are inventing to try to smear Christians as usual.

[Army Guy]

12 hours ago, eyeball said:

Okay but this still wouldn't be an issue if it only involved Christians.

except there was no christians, was there, he tasked an already overtasked spec ops group to rescue a group specified by the Minister of National defense when they could have been rescuing other Canadians or those that helped Canadians during the conflict...instead the minister choose one group over another,...and has no other answer for his decision except to lie ....typical liberal response to anything that does not go as plan...Why the liberals picked him over Leslie for MDND is beyond me.