Canada, NATO & Trump

[NAME REMOVED]

When US president-oligarch Trump says he's going to invade or annex Canada, he is not joking, teasing, or trolling. He is making a threat. Take him seriously and prepare for war. The sooner Canadians, Mexicans, and allies come to an understanding that the United States under Trump could flip from ally to enemy, the sooner they can prepare for combat and protect their sovereignty and democracy.

Refuse to accept the US manifest destiny or its expansionist language, refer to them as USian because no man or woman on these continents is more or less American than the others. The United States does not have a monopoly on democracy, freedom, America, or the ability to fight for these ideals.

The 18th-century French writer Voltaire famously said that no adversary would want a “few acres of snow” in Canada. But Canada is more than a few acres of snow. There are population centres, citizens, infrastructure, and resources, including the water and oil Trump is eyeing. And amongst all this some strategic targets an aggressor might covet.

Today Canada faces many threats from different fronts, including Russia, China, India, and now under Trump the United States. Each one of these countries is waging war against Canada through disinformation, bot armies, and coercion. Openly trying to dismantle the nation and the principles that glue it together.

So far, Canadian politicians and state media have reacted in a manner unbefitting to a nation facing invasion and subjugation from a much larger and more powerful adversary. The current response by Canada's state media has been to minimize the threat or conduct polls normalizing the idea of annexation and invasion, instilling the delusion that these acts of war could be done peacefully.

Other Canadian delusions include articles and commentary playing down the threat and recommending Canadians ignore Trump as if collectively wishing the danger to go away. Such actions only benefit the enemy which relies on silent consent and inaction to accomplish his goals of territorial expansion. Even more disconcerting, is the reaction by the so-called "Team Canada" government managed under Justin Trudeau which has decided that the appropriate response to Trump's threats is to propose new unnecessary border project serving as a token of appeasement, redirecting $1.6 billion of Canadian tax payer's money, to Trump and his cabal of oligarchs.

These projects proposed by Trudeau will not only fail as appeasement they will be capitulation, as they propose the notion of joint policing to tackle nearly non-existent issues claimed by enemy disinformation networks and collaborators. This will grant the US further control over Canada, no different than a colonizing force. This is often seen as the first step towards annexation.

To make matters worse, many disgruntled Canadians seem unable to distinguish real information from enemy propaganda and are floating the idea that they'd be better off being annexed or invaded, many promising to welcome the invaders with open arms. Such sentiments are being met with levity rather than the severity deserved by open treason.

When Russian president-oligarch Vladimir Putin was threatening to invade and annex Ukraine few in the government and media took him seriously. Many pretended he was 'joking' and up until the point that Russian troops took Crimea in 2014, they ridiculed the notion of their neighbour invading and annexing them as ridiculous and alarmist. Before Russia's invasion, many Ukrainian politicians, personalities, and media also tried to appease Putin and proposed joint projects, preached 'brotherly' unity, pretended that 'no way Russia would harm its economy like that', and laughed at the notion of an invasion.

World governments and media further reinforced these ideas providing a false sense of security. Before the invasion, Russia created a separatist idea in Ukraine. Angry at amplified or invented problems, disgruntled Ukrainians upset about the economy, culture wars, and whatever flavour of the month grievances they were fed through media became separatists welcoming the invaders with open arms.

They joined Russian ranks only to discover they are less than second hand citizens used as cannon fodder by their new oligarch masters. In Ukraine, like in Canada, the invading force is not looking to make life better for its conquered people but to remove them from their lands and identity, primarily through genocide, to claim ownership of its rich and abundant resources worth billions of dollars.

If you think an expansionist invasion by USians won't include mass murder, then you are wrong. The friendship between Canada and the United States is a fairly recent development shaped in the trenches of the end of World War 1 and throughout World War 2, where Canadian troops proved their tenacity and ability to wage modern warfare in their battles against Germany.
 

I will only respond to patriotic Canadians, and will ignore any rebuttal from the MAGA supporters.

 

Edited December 23, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[August1991]

47 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

....

 

The 18th-century French writer Voltaire famously said that no adversary would want a “few acres of snow” in Canada. But Canada is more than a few acres of snow.

---

 

 

Context?

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, August1991 said:

CdnFox,

My point is that it takes three generations of European males (a century more or less) to forget a war. Then, they fight again.

=====

Is that because it takes them 6 months to reply to a post, you belated french dork?

Quote

 

We Canadians get along.

Since 1865, the Americans seem to get along.

 

We don't get along and you know that but feel the need to lie about it. I sure wish you guys would just separate.

And I would point out that Trump is currently not only threatening his enemies but also attacking his allies and isn't getting along with anybody. And that the Americans actually invented the term gunboat diplomacy. They don't even get along with themselves, never mind anyone else.

[-TSS-]

Trump talks about buying Greenland from Denmark. 

Even though Greenland is geographically in North-America it is much better off under Denmark than it would be under the USA or even Canada.

There is a comparison between Greenland and Nunavut in Canada and the Inuit population in Greenland is better off.

Of course Greenland would like to be an independent country but given their massive landmass compared to very low population that is not realistic. It could work in name only while still being propped up by Denmark.

Some Danish people I have talked to speak very derogatorily about Greenland saying that without Danes they would starve. Offensive or not but perhaps even true. 

[Legato]

On 12/22/2024 at 9:29 PM, DUI_Offender said:

When US president-oligarch Trump says he's going to invade or annex Canada, he is not joking, teasing, or trolling. He is making a threat. Take him seriously and prepare for war. The sooner Canadians, Mexicans, and allies come to an understanding that the United States under Trump could flip from ally to enemy, the sooner they can prepare for combat and protect their sovereignty and democracy.

Refuse to accept the US manifest destiny or its expansionist language, refer to them as USian because no man or woman on these continents is more or less American than the others. The United States does not have a monopoly on democracy, freedom, America, or the ability to fight for these ideals.

The 18th-century French writer Voltaire famously said that no adversary would want a “few acres of snow” in Canada. But Canada is more than a few acres of snow. There are population centres, citizens, infrastructure, and resources, including the water and oil Trump is eyeing. And amongst all this some strategic targets an aggressor might covet.

Today Canada faces many threats from different fronts, including Russia, China, India, and now under Trump the United States. Each one of these countries is waging war against Canada through disinformation, bot armies, and coercion. Openly trying to dismantle the nation and the principles that glue it together.

So far, Canadian politicians and state media have reacted in a manner unbefitting to a nation facing invasion and subjugation from a much larger and more powerful adversary. The current response by Canada's state media has been to minimize the threat or conduct polls normalizing the idea of annexation and invasion, instilling the delusion that these acts of war could be done peacefully.

Other Canadian delusions include articles and commentary playing down the threat and recommending Canadians ignore Trump as if collectively wishing the danger to go away. Such actions only benefit the enemy which relies on silent consent and inaction to accomplish his goals of territorial expansion. Even more disconcerting, is the reaction by the so-called "Team Canada" government managed under Justin Trudeau which has decided that the appropriate response to Trump's threats is to propose new unnecessary border project serving as a token of appeasement, redirecting $1.6 billion of Canadian tax payer's money, to Trump and his cabal of oligarchs.

These projects proposed by Trudeau will not only fail as appeasement they will be capitulation, as they propose the notion of joint policing to tackle nearly non-existent issues claimed by enemy disinformation networks and collaborators. This will grant the US further control over Canada, no different than a colonizing force. This is often seen as the first step towards annexation.

To make matters worse, many disgruntled Canadians seem unable to distinguish real information from enemy propaganda and are floating the idea that they'd be better off being annexed or invaded, many promising to welcome the invaders with open arms. Such sentiments are being met with levity rather than the severity deserved by open treason.

When Russian president-oligarch Vladimir Putin was threatening to invade and annex Ukraine few in the government and media took him seriously. Many pretended he was 'joking' and up until the point that Russian troops took Crimea in 2014, they ridiculed the notion of their neighbour invading and annexing them as ridiculous and alarmist. Before Russia's invasion, many Ukrainian politicians, personalities, and media also tried to appease Putin and proposed joint projects, preached 'brotherly' unity, pretended that 'no way Russia would harm its economy like that', and laughed at the notion of an invasion.

World governments and media further reinforced these ideas providing a false sense of security. Before the invasion, Russia created a separatist idea in Ukraine. Angry at amplified or invented problems, disgruntled Ukrainians upset about the economy, culture wars, and whatever flavour of the month grievances they were fed through media became separatists welcoming the invaders with open arms.

They joined Russian ranks only to discover they are less than second hand citizens used as cannon fodder by their new oligarch masters. In Ukraine, like in Canada, the invading force is not looking to make life better for its conquered people but to remove them from their lands and identity, primarily through genocide, to claim ownership of its rich and abundant resources worth billions of dollars.

If you think an expansionist invasion by USians won't include mass murder, then you are wrong. The friendship between Canada and the United States is a fairly recent development shaped in the trenches of the end of World War 1 and throughout World War 2, where Canadian troops proved their tenacity and ability to wage modern warfare in their battles against Germany.
 

I will only respond to patriotic Canadians, and will ignore any rebuttal from the MAGA supporters.

 

Seems like there are no patriots.

America can't invade Canada, Tom Cruise has left top gun.

[herbie]

Oh come on, the Orange Imbecile is now taunting how Wayne Gretzky should run for Prime Minister.
Like zero knowledge of how any other democratic country works, ignorance of how the last guy that chose to live in the USA for his own benefit and ran for PM fared, deluded with the brainwashing that everyone everywhere else secretly desires to be an American.

FFS it's gonna be a 4 year journey for the rest of the world dealing with the stupidest President ever being re-elected.

[suds]

On 12/22/2024 at 9:29 PM, DUI_Offender said:

When US president-oligarch Trump says he's going to invade or annex Canada, he is not joking, teasing, or trolling. He is making a threat. Take him seriously and prepare for war. The sooner Canadians, Mexicans, and allies come to an understanding that the United States under Trump could flip from ally to enemy, the sooner they can prepare for combat and protect their sovereignty and democracy.

Refuse to accept the US manifest destiny or its expansionist language, refer to them as USian because no man or woman on these continents is more or less American than the others. The United States does not have a monopoly on democracy, freedom, America, or the ability to fight for these ideals.

The 18th-century French writer Voltaire famously said that no adversary would want a “few acres of snow” in Canada. But Canada is more than a few acres of snow. There are population centres, citizens, infrastructure, and resources, including the water and oil Trump is eyeing. And amongst all this some strategic targets an aggressor might covet.

Today Canada faces many threats from different fronts, including Russia, China, India, and now under Trump the United States. Each one of these countries is waging war against Canada through disinformation, bot armies, and coercion. Openly trying to dismantle the nation and the principles that glue it together.

So far, Canadian politicians and state media have reacted in a manner unbefitting to a nation facing invasion and subjugation from a much larger and more powerful adversary. The current response by Canada's state media has been to minimize the threat or conduct polls normalizing the idea of annexation and invasion, instilling the delusion that these acts of war could be done peacefully.

Other Canadian delusions include articles and commentary playing down the threat and recommending Canadians ignore Trump as if collectively wishing the danger to go away. Such actions only benefit the enemy which relies on silent consent and inaction to accomplish his goals of territorial expansion. Even more disconcerting, is the reaction by the so-called "Team Canada" government managed under Justin Trudeau which has decided that the appropriate response to Trump's threats is to propose new unnecessary border project serving as a token of appeasement, redirecting $1.6 billion of Canadian tax payer's money, to Trump and his cabal of oligarchs.

These projects proposed by Trudeau will not only fail as appeasement they will be capitulation, as they propose the notion of joint policing to tackle nearly non-existent issues claimed by enemy disinformation networks and collaborators. This will grant the US further control over Canada, no different than a colonizing force. This is often seen as the first step towards annexation.

To make matters worse, many disgruntled Canadians seem unable to distinguish real information from enemy propaganda and are floating the idea that they'd be better off being annexed or invaded, many promising to welcome the invaders with open arms. Such sentiments are being met with levity rather than the severity deserved by open treason.

When Russian president-oligarch Vladimir Putin was threatening to invade and annex Ukraine few in the government and media took him seriously. Many pretended he was 'joking' and up until the point that Russian troops took Crimea in 2014, they ridiculed the notion of their neighbour invading and annexing them as ridiculous and alarmist. Before Russia's invasion, many Ukrainian politicians, personalities, and media also tried to appease Putin and proposed joint projects, preached 'brotherly' unity, pretended that 'no way Russia would harm its economy like that', and laughed at the notion of an invasion.

World governments and media further reinforced these ideas providing a false sense of security. Before the invasion, Russia created a separatist idea in Ukraine. Angry at amplified or invented problems, disgruntled Ukrainians upset about the economy, culture wars, and whatever flavour of the month grievances they were fed through media became separatists welcoming the invaders with open arms.

They joined Russian ranks only to discover they are less than second hand citizens used as cannon fodder by their new oligarch masters. In Ukraine, like in Canada, the invading force is not looking to make life better for its conquered people but to remove them from their lands and identity, primarily through genocide, to claim ownership of its rich and abundant resources worth billions of dollars.

If you think an expansionist invasion by USians won't include mass murder, then you are wrong. The friendship between Canada and the United States is a fairly recent development shaped in the trenches of the end of World War 1 and throughout World War 2, where Canadian troops proved their tenacity and ability to wage modern warfare in their battles against Germany.
 

I will only respond to patriotic Canadians, and will ignore any rebuttal from the MAGA supporters.

 

So Trump will order the US military to invade Canada and then likely order them to engage in genocide to complete the objective in securing our resources? And we should be preparing our military for combat to defend our sovereignty and democracy? Yeah right. A better plan might be for the US, Canada, and Denmark, to sit down and come to some agreement on how to keep the contested parts of the Arctic out of Russian and/or Chinese control.

[User]

On 12/22/2024 at 8:29 PM, DUI_Offender said:

I will only respond to patriotic Canadians, and will ignore any rebuttal from the MAGA supporters.

How about you don't steal other people's writing and post it here with no accreditation... 

[August1991]

On 12/23/2024 at 1:19 AM, CdnFox said:

...

We don't get along and you know that but feel the need to lie about it. I sure wish you guys would just separate.

....

I disagree.

Nowadays, we Canadians largely agree. We get along.

[herbie]

There are a few who can't. Not because they actually can't, because they actually don't want to. A too common personality flaw.

Geez met a similar person over Christmas dinner. Gobbled the roast beef but when it came to dessert he didn't want spumoni ice cream or a gulabjamun* because they were foreign. Never ever tasted either, the fool.
Food bigots.
My Scot M-I-L once told my kids she's never eaten on of those hamburgers. My 7 year old daughter burst out with What are you some kind of alien?

Yeah we get along. I didn't go ape shit offended and the guy can come to my house again. I'll make the choice of serving mangiacake spaghetti and MILD italian sausage. Plain vanilla ice cream, the French vanilla might be to flavourful for his taste.
Just like the woman who told me the roast 'wasn't cooked' as it was rare in the center, insisted the juice was blood and how that 'isn't good for you'.
She also said Grace before dinner and I "let" her.

Also talked with family all over the damn country from Vancouver to Lethbridge to Ottawa and London, Truro to Corenrbrook. To my Trudeau loathing cousins, Evangelical sisters to a single woman ex-dectective I met 3rd hand who I know was alone at Christmas and feeling crappy from being evicted illegally after 29 years by a f*cking HongKonger landlord.

Get along, or live in the basement with no friends. Your choice.

^ we call them Indian Timbits. But you can't eat a box of 20

Edited December 27, 2024 by herbie

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, August1991 said:

I disagree.

Nowadays, we Canadians largely agree. We get along.

You literally disagreed with whether or not we agree with each other and now claim that that's proof that we agree with each other to which I disagree.

Which demonstrates that not only do we disagree but you're a bit of a tard sometimes