Fluffypants Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, myata said: Liars will lie. But anyone with a working part of the brain knows the reality: cowering to brutal thugs only invites them to come for more. It can and would not solve anything. We can stand for the order that our ancestors defended, or let it fall. It is a choice - our choice. Exactly right because Russia invaded Ukraine because liberals cower before brutal thugs and make empty threats. Every deal liberals make with these thugs gives up way more to get little. Example, trading a notorious arms dealer for a WNBA player. Iran nuclear deal was a joke, we unfroze billions of dollars for a pinky swear that they won't develop nuclear weapons for 10 years without any real teeth to checking to make sure they weren't. The Afghanistan pull out that you love to tout as Trumps plan wasn't actually Trumps plan. I just heard a story about when Trump was negotiating with the leader of the Taliban over the pullout and Trump told him that this would happen with conditions and one of them was if a single hair on an American service members head was hurt he would kill the leader he was negotiating with and hands him a satellite image of the leader's home and walks out. Things you say versus what you do are 2 very different things. Trump at no point showed weakness to our enemies, we gave N Korea nothing and Lil Kim stopped testing rockets . Trump gave Putin nothing and he didn't even make a move to go after Ukraine. He did however killed one of Iran's generals and gave them the middle finger and their response was weak. They fired some rockets and did minimal damage in order to save face. Never said anything again about it. Liberals are like chihuahuas and bark a lot but when push comes to shove they don't back up their threats, who remembers "the red line in Syria". This is why Russia invaded Ukraine because they didn't believe we would do anything about it. Trump wasn't tested because they were afraid to test him. He is a lot like Reagan in that way the rest of the world thought he was crazy and didn't want to go directly against him for fear of what he would do. Edited July 4 by Fluffypants Quote
Nationalist Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, myata said: Liars will lie. But anyone with a working part of the brain knows the reality: cowering to brutal thugs only invites them to come for more. It can and would not solve anything. We can stand for the order that our ancestors defended, or let it fall. It is a choice - our choice. Indeed it is our choice and here it is: https://www.270towin.com/polls/latest-2024-presidential-election-polls/ Now...sit down, take deep breath and have a good cry. Let it all out myata. Then...come back and realize Brandon is an addled old fool and that the Democrats are about to have their own lies, choked right down their throats. Ya gits wut ya pays fer. Edited July 4 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
myata Posted July 4 Author Report Posted July 4 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Fluffypants said: Trump wasn't tested because ... He is a lot like Reagan How do you go from stating some plausible observations to obvious falsities? Did you forget his tenure of 2016-2020 all the while Russian aggression was ongoing? He did nothing to stop it. How is this "untested"? On his every encounter with totalitarian thugs he did nothing but cowering, with one - the only one exception of Iran. - Weakened and withdrew American forces in Syria - Did nothing to stop Russian aggression in Ukraine and Georgia - Flirted with Kim, who led him around his finger. Mentioning Reagan in this context who actually saw a totalitarian empire collapse is more than a bizarre lie - an affront to his memory. Just shame. Disgusting. - Engineered the coalition failure in Afghanistan. - More recently, praised Putin, Xi and Kim again. How can you folks not see obvious facts that are glaring right into your eyes? How is it even possible. And mentioning Reagan in the same sentence who actually saw the totalitarian empire's collapse is more than a bizarre lie - an affront to his memory. Just shame. Disgusting, really. Edited July 4 by myata 1 1 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
WestCanMan Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 15 hours ago, CdnFox said: You can't even articulate clearly what you know. He could do that with one word: "Duhhhhh." 2 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
Nationalist Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 (edited) 59 minutes ago, myata said: - Weakened and withdrew American forces in Syria Not America's fight. Besides...he manage to trash ISIS in the ME. 59 minutes ago, myata said: Did nothing to stop Russian aggression in Ukraine and Georgia Again...not America's fight. 59 minutes ago, myata said: Flirted with Kim, who led him around his finger. The first and only POTUS to step into NK. This saw an end to long range missile testing...which has resumed now under Brandon. 59 minutes ago, myata said: More recently, praised Putin, Xi and Kim again. Diplomacy. Look it up. 59 minutes ago, myata said: Engineered the coalition failure in Afghanistan I'm afraid Brandon owns that surrender. Even his own generals have said as much. 59 minutes ago, myata said: How can you folks not see obvious facts that are glaring right into your eyes? How is it even possible that's one of the reasons. Would you like more? Face it myata...Brandon is a basket case. Edited July 4 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
DUI_Offender Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 If Trump is elected President, democracy will be a thing of the past in America, and Ukraine will.be finished along with NATO. Putin will be calling the shots. Quote
Fluffypants Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: If Trump is elected President, democracy will be a thing of the past in America, and Ukraine will.be finished along with NATO. Putin will be calling the shots. You realize Trump was President before and none of that happened even though you all kept insisting it would and now you are still playing the same tired song. This is the Hootie and the Blowfish political accusation. You literally have world leaders and Americans wondering who the President really is right now because Joe is so far gone. Edited July 4 by Fluffypants Quote
DUI_Offender Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 22 minutes ago, Fluffypants said: You realize Trump was President before and none of that happened. He tried to weaken NATO. Several former insiders revealed his long term plans were to dismantle NATO. He blackmailed Ukraine. He stacked to supreme court full of right wing zealous. He got played so much by Putin, that he may as well have bent over. I would rather have an invalid as President than a traitor to his country. Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, myata said: How do you go from stating some plausible observations to obvious falsities? Did you forget his tenure of 2016-2020 all the while Russian aggression was ongoing? He did nothing to stop it. How is this "untested"? On his every encounter with totalitarian thugs he did nothing but cowering, with one - the only one exception of Iran. You just went from normal lies to completely deranged, frothing-at-the-mouth BS. Your mouth is a sewer. Quote - Weakened and withdrew American forces in Syria - Flirted with Kim, who led him around his finger. Mentioning Reagan in this context who actually saw a totalitarian empire collapse is more than a bizarre lie - an affront to his memory. Just shame. Disgusting. - Engineered the coalition failure in Afghanistan. - More recently, praised Putin, Xi and Kim again. How can you folks not see obvious facts that are glaring right into your eyes? How is it even possible. 1- Obama was the one who withdrew forces and created a power vacuum in Levant, where islamic state flared up, dummy. Then he ignored them until that "Jr varsity terrorist squad" was powerful enough to fight off entire armies. Then he engaged them like a wimp, with total gov't oversight over battlefield decisions which neutralized American air-power. He wouldn't even call islamic state out by name, or acknowledge the depth of their depravity. Trump was all about strength in Syria. He called them what they were. Promised destruction to them. Unleashed the forces in that area to make their own decisions. He obliterated islamic state quickly, and even fired cruise missiles at Syrian targets when they crossed the line against their own civilians. Then when Putin and the Syrian gov't warned him not to do it again, and crossed that same line, Trump did it again. Then when 200 Russian mercenaries approached an American base, Trump has them all wasted. Obama was a weak, simpering loser in the ME. Trump wasted terrorist leaders, killed Iranian generals, and beat islamic state like a rented mule. Never talk about Syria again, fool. You just embarrassed yourself. 2- Kim's missile-firing spree, which went on forever under Obama, ended after KJU said he'd fire a missile over Guam and Mad Dog Mattis simply said: "If they fire missiles at us, that's called war." Then Trump put stronger sanctions against NoKo and left them there for the rest of his term. 3- OMG, spare us the drama you jam-tart. What Trump said was perfectly fine, and no leftist should ever use the word Reagan in a sentence - it's an affront to his legacy. Also, nothing can ever top "The most successful military withdrawal ever, where no one was left behind", where Americans were left behind: 4- That was all Biden you dipsnit. Afghanistan was as peaceful as a sleeping baby for almost 2 years before sleepy, creepy Joe took over. All hell broke loose when that id10t took the reins, and then had US forces just go heels while he completely failed to communicate anything with America's allies. Biden's strategy: "EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF!" American allies were furious. It was an abomination. Biden's drone strike that killed a bunch of children was almost the highlight of his entire Afghan campaign, and FYI killing children with hellfire missiles is universally considered to be really really bad. 5- 🤣 Get a life, stupid. 6- Ummmm, how did you fail to notice when peace in the ME under Trump turned to war under Biden? How did you fail to notice when peace in Europe for the last 80 years turned to war under Biden? How did you not notice the Afghan failure, inflation, the open border, etc, etc, etc? How did you not notice that America is failing on every level right now? In 2017, 2018, and 2019 everything was coming up roses, now thorns would be an improvement. Edited July 4 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
myata Posted July 4 Author Report Posted July 4 The factual reality stands: - Weakened and withdrew American forces in Syria - Did nothing to stop Russian aggression in Ukraine and Georgia, 2016 - 2020 - Flirted with Kim, who led him around his finger and did not stop their missile testing - Raised doubts about the unity of NATO thus weakening it. - Engineered the coalition failure in Afghanistan. - More recently, praised Putin, Xi and Kim again. There isn't much that can be added to what one can see in plain sight. No way we couldn't have known. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Fluffypants Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 (edited) 43 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: He tried to weaken NATO. Several former insiders revealed his long term plans were to dismantle NATO. He blackmailed Ukraine. He stacked to supreme court full of right wing zealous. He got played so much by Putin, that he may as well have bent over. I would rather have an invalid as President than a traitor to his country. No he didn't he told the countries who weren't contributing enough that they needed to start pulling their weight and it worked so NATO actually got stronger. We flip the bill for everything and then let these other countries walk all over us and treat us like shit. If there was no NATO then these countries would have to pay for a real military and all those pretty little socialist programs would have to go away because they won't be able to afford them anymore. Edited July 4 by Fluffypants Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 34 minutes ago, myata said: The factual reality stands: - Weakened and withdrew American forces in Syria - Did nothing to stop Russian aggression in Ukraine and Georgia, 2016 - 2020 - Flirted with Kim, who led him around his finger and did not stop their missile testing - Raised doubts about the unity of NATO thus weakening it. - Engineered the coalition failure in Afghanistan. - More recently, praised Putin, Xi and Kim again. There isn't much that can be added to what one can see in plain sight. No way we couldn't have known. Just in case you missed this, you gutless little stooge: 1- Obama was the one who withdrew forces and created a power vacuum in Levant, where islamic state flared up, dummy. Then he ignored them until that "Jr varsity terrorist squad" was powerful enough to fight off entire armies. Then he engaged them like a wimp, with total gov't oversight over battlefield decisions which neutralized American air-power. He wouldn't even call islamic state out by name, or acknowledge the depth of their depravity. Trump was all about strength in Syria. He called them what they were. Promised destruction to them. Unleashed the forces in that area to make their own decisions. He obliterated islamic state quickly, and even fired cruise missiles at Syrian targets when they crossed the line against their own civilians. Then when Putin and the Syrian gov't warned him not to do it again, and crossed that same line, Trump did it again. Then when 200 Russian mercenaries approached an American base, Trump has them all wasted. Obama was a weak, simpering loser in the ME. Trump wasted terrorist leaders, killed Iranian generals, and beat islamic state like a rented mule. Never talk about Syria again, fool. You just embarrassed yourself. 2- Kim's missile-firing spree, which went on forever under Obama, ended after KJU said he'd fire a missile over Guam and Mad Dog Mattis simply said: "If they fire missiles at us, that's called war." Then Trump put stronger sanctions against NoKo and left them there for the rest of his term. 3- OMG, spare us the drama you jam-tart. What Trump said was perfectly fine, and no leftist should ever use the word Reagan in a sentence - it's an affront to his legacy. Also, nothing can ever top "The most successful military withdrawal ever, where no one was left behind", where Americans were left behind: 4- That was all Biden you dipsnit. Afghanistan was as peaceful as a sleeping baby for almost 2 years before sleepy, creepy Joe took over. All hell broke loose when that id10t took the reins, and then had US forces just go heels while he completely failed to communicate anything with America's allies. Biden's strategy: "EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF!" American allies were furious. It was an abomination. Biden's drone strike that killed a bunch of children was almost the highlight of his entire Afghan campaign, and FYI killing children with hellfire missiles is universally considered to be really really bad. 5- 🤣 Get a life, stupid. 6- Ummmm, how did you fail to notice when peace in the ME under Trump turned to war under Biden? How did you fail to notice when peace in Europe for the last 80 years turned to war under Biden? How did you not notice the Afghan failure, inflation, the open border, etc, etc, etc? How did you not notice that America is failing on every level right now? In 2017, 2018, and 2019 everything was coming up roses, now thorns would be an improvement. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
myata Posted July 4 Author Report Posted July 4 The brain of the converts works this way: anything that can be stretched even implausibly, to the Idols gain is stretched. Anything, facts included that clearly point to the opposite conclusion, simply ignored like they never existed. Of course there's nothing new to it. Every crazy guru cult works exactly on the same foundation: turn off your brain; hand it over to the cult; and pretend that the reality does not exist. The bigger the gap with the reality, the harder it is to return a convert back to it, and all the way to plain impossible. Nothing new there. Happened countless times. Now those who haven't departed from the reality know: appeasement of brutal thugs never worked; it cannot work; and it won't work again and again, no matter how often and under what pretext(s) its tried. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
WestCanMan Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 34 minutes ago, Fluffypants said: No he didn't he told the countries who weren't contributing enough that they needed to start pulling their weight and it worked so NATO actually got stronger. It doesn't matter to a cultist clown like that - his duty to his fascist messiah is to find a negative spin to put on everything Trump said or did, and when spinning isn't enough he completely ignores reality and lies his ass off. Honest to God: "Weakened and withdrew American forces in Syria" is his summary of Trump's Syrian campaign. Not even robo or hodad would say something that stupid and blatantly false. To say that he's unhinged is an understatement. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
WestCanMan Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 1 minute ago, myata said: The brain of the converts works this way: anything that can be stretched even implausibly, to the Idols gain is stretched. Anything, facts included that clearly point to the opposite conclusion, simply ignored like they never existed. Physician, heal thyself 🤣 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
CdnFox Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 3 hours ago, myata said: How do you go from stating some plausible observations to obvious falsities? We assumed you used drugs. 2 Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 9 minutes ago, CdnFox said: We assumed you used drugs. TBH, I think that he's in a cult-induced state of euphoria/depression/anxiety. If this guy doesn't scream at clouds, no one odes. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
CdnFox Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 Just now, WestCanMan said: TBH, I think that he's in a cult-induced state of euphoria/depression/anxiety. If this guy doesn't scream at clouds, no one odes. i'd go so far as to say he probably thinks the clouds scream back. Well as we have previously discussed I suspect we will see a steady decrease in the mental acuity of most of those on the left until November. Of course after November it's not going to get better, their brains will almost certainly reach critical trump density and implode into a small black hole from which no thought can escape. But hopefully they'll be a little more quiet. 1 Quote
myata Posted July 4 Author Report Posted July 4 Grade two "polemic" tactics won't work in this case because we are talking about: - the capacity to see and admit facts of reality: Trump was a president 2016 - 2020. He did not stop Putin's war. He did not stop Kim's missile testing. For the dumb or brain dead, again: no you cannot "reflect" the facts of reality. - the ability to use logic: he sucked up to the thugs; he did nothing to stop them. So, he would do it again. For the dumb (dead brains, etc): grade two chat tricks do not and cannot replace logic and common sense. 1 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
CdnFox Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 Just now, myata said: Grade two "polemic" tactics won't work in this case Well we can't use grade 3 polemic tactics until you graduate so you'll just have to make do 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 28 minutes ago, myata said: - the capacity to see and admit facts of reality: Trump was a president 2016 - 2020. He did not stop Putin's war. Hmmmm. BBC says that Russia attacked Ukraine on Feb 24, 2022, when Biden was president. Are they wrong? Russian troops didn't start massing on Ukraine's border until just after Biden was inaugurated. Shocker, hey? Going further back, Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, when Obama was POTUS. From 2017-2021, when Trump was POTUS, Russia/Ukraine was boring AF. Open a history book, put your dumb little face in it, and slam it shut. Case closed. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
myata Posted July 4 Author Report Posted July 4 WWII began in September 1939. President Roosevelt was elected in November 1940. According to dead brains, the U.S. should have had nothing to do with WWII in Europe. This is how dead brains work. The reality doesn't matter. 1 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Legato Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 9 minutes ago, myata said: WWII began in September 1939. President Roosevelt was elected in November 1940. According to dead brains, the U.S. should have had nothing to do with WWII in Europe. This is how dead brains work. The reality doesn't matter. Was that when King Arthur pulled the sword from the stone, or when you struggled to pull a stone from a grape. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 2 minutes ago, myata said: WWII began in September 1939. President Roosevelt was elected in November 1940. According to dead brains, the U.S. should have had nothing to do with WWII in Europe. This is how dead brains work. The reality doesn't matter. So just how 'warry' was Russia-Ukraine between 2017 and 2021, compared to "the planet" in 1940? I just wanna know what the people with the "living brains" currently believe 🤣 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
WestCanMan Posted July 4 Report Posted July 4 3 minutes ago, Legato said: Was that when King Arthur pulled the sword from the stone, or when you struggled to pull a stone from a grape. Little known facts: Trump's the one to blame for the sword being stuck in the stone in the first place, and King Arthur was actually a black female plastic surgeon who identified as a white king: no one noticed because Trump hadn't invented racism yet. Myata knows. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
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