First Measles death recorded in almost 25 years in Ontario

[Boges]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/measles-vaccination-rates-1.7207834

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An Ontario child's death from measles this year offers a grim reminder: When vaccination rates drop and this virus rears its head, the youngest among us bear the brunt.

Public Health Ontario (PHO) reported the recent death of a child under five on Thursday. The child, from Hamilton, was one of five unvaccinated kids who fell ill and ended up in hospital this year, with 22 cases of measles in total reported so far across the province.

That means, in mere months in 2024, Ontario has hit nearly a quarter of the roughly 100 measles cases documented in the entire decade beforehand. And PHO said this year's death marks the province's first deadly case since 1989 — as far back as its data goes.

Renowned infectious diseases specialist Dr. Allison McGeer called it a tragedy, but not a surprise.

"It's something that people have spent a lot of time and effort to try to avoid," added McGeer, who works at Sinai Health System in Toronto. "There's also a certain aspect of inevitability to it just because of how much ground we lost in measles vaccination around the world."

 

I concede the controversy of the COVID vaccine. Hysteria led to a rushed vaccine that authorities basically shamed people to get. 

I don't particularly believe scores of people have died from any given COVID vaccine, but I concede there were risks. 

The MMR vaccine, given to young children, is a completely different story. There's no credible evidence that it's anything but completely safe. 

Apparently PP wants to allow for vaccine freedom. I would strongly oppose this when related to childhood vaccine that have repeatedly demonstrated its effectiveness. I don't support children without proper childhood vaccines being allowed in public-funded areas.  

The more low-information parents that compare the COVID vaccine with the MMR vaccine the more children, like the one in the posted article will die. 

Edited May 21, 2024 by Boges

[herbie]

Pandering to anti-vax id1ots is the #2 reason they'll never get my vote. My youngest sister died from measles as she was born just before the vaccine became common. Went to her brain and it took years of a slow horrible decline that was a trauma for the entire extended family no one wishes on anyone ever again.

Reason #1 is an utter refusal to say exactly what they'd do on any issue, climate, housing, medical crisis. drug overdoses, homelessness etc. other that saying what is being done is no good, and they will have a better plan.

 

[Goddess]

Ahhhh, we're going down the Measles hysteria path now, instead of the Covid hysteria path.

Over 2,000 children under 5 die each year in Canada from different causes. Every one of them is tragic.   I don't know if this death could have been avoided, but I'm a bit angry about how its being used to AGAIN make Canadians fearful.  I wonder what its doing to the poor parents of this child - probably the same as the Alberta parents whose child died of a brain tumor , and Hinshaw and the media held a press conference to announce the province's first teenage covid death.   Every single time a Measles case is reported they will make it sound like it is unprecedented. And they will attribute it to vaccine hesitancy.   The Measles numbers in 2024 are not abnormal. By the end of March there had been 39 cases in Canada. That number is now up to 75, but historically the Measles season is winding down at this time of year and will not pick up until next winter. So we will likely register less than around 100 cases in 2024.   Although this is higher than the last few years when we locked kids at home and closed schools, it is not an abnormal year.   In 2019, Canada had 101 cases of Measles. In 2015, we had 195 and in 2014 we had 420. Back in 2011, we had 752 cases of Measles at a time when Measles vaccine uptake was at an historical high.     The latest Measles hysteria began last year, when mainstream media spread fear about Measles in the spring of 2023, after a couple cases. Then we would go on to have one of the lowest years of Measles on record (12 cases). Measles a growing concern as March Break approaches | CBC News   Here is why the story of this tragic death is so frustrating. Even though Public Health Ontario keeps track of all Measles cases by exact age for children, when this death occurred last week, they simply told the media that it was a “child under 5” and that he or she “was not immunized”. They let the media run with news stories about how an “unvaccinated kid” died. They let the public think that irresponsible anti-vaxxer parents are to blame for their own child’s death. If you read the hundreds of comments on these news articles, it seems the authorities got exactly what they wanted. Scorn will again turn towards the “anti-science”, “anti-vaxxers”, "misinformation spreaders”. But, Public Health Ontario and Health Canada purposely did not advise the media that: Almost all the hospitalizations linked to Measles are in children under 1 which means that this death likely occurred in an infant. Children under 1 CANNOT receive a Measles vaccine. The first dose of the vaccine is typically given between 12 and 18 months of age. The second is given between 4 and 6 years old. Importantly, Public Health Ontario did not state that this child was “unvaccinated”. It simply said “unimmunized” so this could also mean that the child received their first shot but hadn’t gotten their 4-6 shot yet making them not yet “fully immunized”.   Before April, only 5% of Measles case in Canada had an “unknown” status. Since April, 85% of new cases were reported with an "UNKNOWN vaccination status". As of May 5th, Health Canada reported 65 cases. While 63% of cases were in unvaccinated individuals, more than a third of cases (22) now have an “unknown vaccination status”. If these “unknowns” are in fact vaccinated, then it would show that the majority of new Measles cases are in vaccinated individuals, leading many to question the efficacy of the vaccine. That might explain the rise in “unknown status”. We saw this game play out during the covid pandemic as well. No parent deserves to lose a child and wake up to headlines like this:     This was all done on purpose to scare the public. To further divide society between the “good who listen to us” and the “evil who don’t trust the science”. NOTE:  I'm not debating if the Measles vaccine is good or bad. This is about truth and trust. There are ways that public health leaders could promote the benefits of any vaccine without lying and deceiving and taking advantage of a child’s death. They need to go back to trust. Not fear. No propaganda techniques. Even Trudo had to comment on it: Quote "I can't imagine what that family is going through right now, but I do know as a parent that all of us want the absolute best for our kids. I recommend that everyone listens to their doctors, their health professionals on how to keep their kids safe." - Justin Trudeau You see how he phrased this message? “We all want the absolute best for our kids (implying the parents of these kids didn’t…). Then he told us to “listen to our health professionals to keep our kids safe”. (subtext: You are a bad parent who doesn’t want to keep their kids safe unless you “listen”…) He was wrong to use Covid to divide our society and he's still trying to do the same now. He decided to to use a tragic death for political purpose and that is disgusting.   Quote I will leave you all now to your hysteria and propaganda.  It seems many of us learned nothing from the covid hysteria and propaganda.

[Goddess]

[Aristides]

Canada had been free of measles since 1998 but the anti vax crowd has given it a new life.

[Goddess]

46 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Canada had been free of measles since 1998 but the anti vax crowd has given it a new life.

I posted the numbers of measles cases for quite a few years AFTER 1998 directly from Health Canada, above.

Why do you deliberately lie?

[Aristides]

22 hours ago, Goddess said:

I posted the numbers of measles cases for quite a few years AFTER 1998 directly from Health Canada, above.

Why do you deliberately lie?

Maybe you should actually read the CBC article you linked.

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"We're also raising awareness among health-care providers locally about the heightened risk of measles in particular with more travel during the March break season," Etches said Monday.

Measles vaccination rates are generally high across Canada, but foreign travel remains a common source of infection among Canadians.

 

 

Edited May 26, 2024 by Aristides

[Goddess]

On 5/26/2024 at 12:03 PM, Aristides said:

Maybe you should actually read the CBC article you linked.

 

WTF are you talking about?

You said Canada was "free of measles since 1998"  - a lie.

From stats Canada there are measles cases every year.

Just admit you lie without giving it a moment's thought.  You're a liar.

[Aristides]

On 5/27/2024 at 11:42 AM, Goddess said:

WTF are you talking about?

You said Canada was "free of measles since 1998"  - a lie.

From stats Canada there are measles cases every year.

Just admit you lie without giving it a moment's thought.  You're a liar.

Canada is not an island. Unvaxinated people give it a place to spread when brought in by visitors or returning Canadians.

[User]

On 5/21/2024 at 11:22 AM, Boges said:

The MMR vaccine, given to young children, is a completely different story. There's no credible evidence that it's anything but completely safe. 

Oh, this infuriates me. I have long argued that the lies and distrust that our leaders sowed is to blame for much of the resurgence of the anti-vaccine madness we seen around COVID that is bleeding out into the rest of the vaccines we have long used. 

Anti-vaxxers pre-COVID were almost all conspiracy theory nut jobs who bought into outlandish arguments that had almost no basis on facts, logic, or reality. 

Then, with all the lies around the COVID vaccines, boosters, and masks and all the draconian measures pushed by the government to force them onto folks... it set us back because it pushed folks into the anti-vaccine camp, and now the anti-vaxxers have a grain of truth to further their insanity on. 

 

[Goddess]

Only 2 cases have been reported in Canada in the past 4 weeks.

If trends continue, we will see less than 100 cases this year.

Notably, 33% of cases were fully vaccinated.

Measles and Rubella Weekly Monitoring Reports - 2024 - Canada.ca

Read 13.1 👇

Package Insert - Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Virus Vaccine Live (fda.gov)

Edited June 13, 2024 by Goddess

[Goddess]

According to the CDC, measles activity in America is “currently low” with a total of 151 cases reported  by 22 jurisdictions so far this year. But you wouldn’t know it by reading mainstream media headlines about the !!!!skyrocketing cases!!! of measles with !!!millions at risk!!!  Florida, in particular, has received a disproportionate amount of negative media attention with disparaging headlines such as: Florida is swamped by disease outbreaks as quackery replaces science | Florida | The Guardian Measles? So on-brand for Florida’s descent into the 1950s. (tampabay.com) Florida: Come for the sunshine. Leave with the measles | Commentary (orlandosentinel.com) This "bad publicity" is likely because Florida's State Surgeon General, Joseph Ladapo, challenged the CDC regarding the jabbers, particularly the DNA contamination and its connection to cancer rates.   Ladapo allowed parents to choose whether they wanted their healthy children to attend school during that time, even if they were unvaccinated against the disease. In a letter to parents, Ladapo wrote “Due to the high immunity rate in the community, as well as the burden on families and educational cost of healthy children missing school, DOH is deferring to parents or guardians to make decisions about school attendance.” Interview transcript with Dr. Ladapo: DEMASI: Dr Ladapo, thanks for your time today. LADAPO: You too Dr Demasi. Hey, can you call me Joe? Then I can call you Maryanne. DEMASI: No problem, Joe. You’ve been blamed for the measles outbreaks across America. What do you say about that? LADAPO: Oh, it’s completely political Maryanne. When I tell people that, all in all, we had maybe 10 or 11 cases of measles, they’re shocked because based on the news articles, you’d think that we had thousands of cases of measles. I just saw some over-the-top, completely ridiculous titles to news articles about this. Ultimately, I guess what really ticked off people in the media was that we said that parents could make the decision about whether their healthy kids could go to school. We weren’t suggesting kids who were sick with measles go to school, it was only if they were not sick. DEMASI: But you said unvaccinated kids could return to school if their parents wanted then to…that’s what caused the upset… LADAPO: You know, vaccination rates at the school were very high, so there was a lot of protection against measles already. Therefore, you let the parents choose. Giving parents the choice is what people really couldn’t handle. DEMASI: And it was because your advice contradicted CDC’s advice to quarantine unvaccinated kids for 21-days… LADAPO: Yes, it did go against CDC guidelines, but it's in sync with Florida guidelines, which is, that if a kid is healthy, they can go to school. DEMASI: Why was this all so triggering? LADAPO: Honestly, that’s what I struggle with. I do hear people say that if a kid is unvaccinated and there is a measles outbreak, then they should stay home. But keeping healthy kids home from school puts an enormous burden on the families. It's obviously bad for the kids. It's bad for their education, it’s bad for their mental health and wellbeing. Those lessons were apparently not learned during the pandemic. We're in this state of mind where people reflexively want to isolate healthy people. It was rampant during the pandemic and caused tremendous harm. Those policies never really took a foothold here in Florida, but in other states, it was very common for whole classrooms to go home just because one kid had covid. DEMASI: That’s the difficulty in public health, weighing up the pros and cons… LADAPO: Right, you have to make a judgement call. There was a high rate of vaccination against measles already in the school and a kid who maybe hasn’t had a measles vaccine should be allowed to go to school if the parents have all the information about their options. Measles is very contagious and the chances their kid will catch it is high if they’re exposed to it. But that’s a choice the parents should make, it’s not for public health officials to make for families. That’s my opinion. DEMASI: You said there were only 10 or 11 cases. It seems as if public health officials like frightening people… Do you think there is some disease-mongering happening? LADAPO: Oh, definitely. Absolutely there is. Measles certainly can be serious and sometimes you can get very sick. But by and large, historically, it's not something that was abnormal to catch. Many recover but nowadays it has been transformed into something that signals the end of days. It’s just not realistic. Again, it’s not to say that measles cannot be serious, because it can be, but for most healthy kids, they’re going to get over it. That’s just the reality. All the pandemonium about casting it as if its the plague or Ebola, well, no, it's not. Unfortunately, some public health officials, at least the ones that make it on TV, have a warped vision of health. They equate things like vaccines with health, but vaccines are not health. Health is health - when you're sleeping, you're eating and you're exercising. It’s not a medical product. Medical products can help people, but they’re not the definition of health. I think ‘disease mongering’ is equating medications and vaccines with health – it’s actually a sick way of thinking about health and wellness.   DEMASI: It’s extraordinary to hear a physician in public office say that. Vaccines are considered the “holy grail’ of medicine…is it just covid-19 vaccines that concern you? LADAPO: The mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, yes, and it's all tied together with the inhumane lockdowns, the harms to kids, the separation of people, the inability to say goodbye to people you love, who were dying. Give me a break -- saying goodbye to people over zoom when they're dying, that's bullshit. All that stuff where they were firing nurses and doctors or firemen who didn't want to take the vaccine. It has just been a series of anti-human and…well, evil behaviours. And the fact that many people weren't conscious of how inhumane their actions were was part of the hypnotic environment that was created to allow those behaviours to occur and to be sustained. The fact that so many people have been injured by the vaccines, and people have been misled into taking them – people who were we're very low risk and manipulated - the whole thing's evil, it's totally all evil.

[myata]

On 5/21/2024 at 12:22 PM, Boges said:

I concede the controversy of the COVID vaccine. Hysteria led to a rushed vaccine that authorities basically shamed people to get. 

Yes this is a fine example of a backlash on a bullsh*t when it ascends to governmental proportions. There was no cause. But here, governments just cannot stop doing the good things for the society out of its own pocket and never asked if it wants it and how much of it. They know better, so why stop or even limit themselves? Have vaccinated your unborn yet? Just couldn't wait, right?

Ultimately, it us: the society who will have to take all responsibility and blame. We allowed and allow this style of governance; so we pay for its effects and consequences. The bureaucrats, they are only doing their job however they understand it (and out of our pocket). Fair is fair.

[Goddess]

2 hours ago, myata said:

Ultimately, it us: the society who will have to take all responsibility and blame. We allowed and allow this style of governance; so we pay for its effects and consequences.

It's incredibly stupid to put our personal decisions in the hands of people who will bear no responsibility for the consequences.

[myata]

8 minutes ago, Goddess said:

It's incredibly stupid to put our personal decisions in the hands of people who will bear no responsibility for the consequences.

Well "yes, we did it again" and keep doing it, as the song goes.

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 6/13/2024 at 6:48 PM, Goddess said:

Only 2 cases have been reported in Canada in the past 4 weeks.

If trends continue, we will see less than 100 cases this year.

Notably, 33% of cases were fully vaccinated.

Measles and Rubella Weekly Monitoring Reports - 2024 - Canada.ca

Read 13.1 👇

Package Insert - Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Virus Vaccine Live (fda.gov)

So what’s going on in Alberta at the moment?

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Alberta has surpassed the United States in confirmed measles cases, after 30 new cases were diagnosed over the weekend.

The province reported Monday that it has seen 1,314 cases since the beginning of March.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has reported 1,288 cases so far this year across 39 states, though case numbers are updated weekly with the next update expected on Wednesday.

The outbreak of the highly contagious disease hasn’t led to any deaths so far in Alberta, but three people, including two children, have died in the United States.

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/alberta/article-alberta-surpasses-us-measles-cases-1300/

 

 

 

 

 

[User]

Apparently RFK is running your health department too?