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LAST WARNING
The former president is all out of chances to avoid prison for violating his gag order, the judge said in court Monday morning as he found Trump in contempt one more time.
 

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Judge Gives Trump Final Warning: Jail Is Next

The former president is all out of chances to avoid prison for violating his gag order, the judge said in court Monday morning as he found Trump in contempt one more time.
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“I’ll find you in criminal contempt for the tenth time,” Merchan said in a stark tone. “It appears that the $1,000 fines are not serving as a deterrent. Therefore, going forward, this court will have to consider a jail sanction. Mr. Trump, it’s important to understand the last thing I was to do is put you in jail. You are the former president of the United States, and possibly the next one as well.”

Trump keeps ignoring the judge’s order forbidding him from speaking publicly about witnesses and jurors in a menacing way, something the former president keeps doing anyway on social media. Merchan last week fined Trump $9,000 for nine separate violations of a previous gag order—a step he only took after making repeated warnings.

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Do you think he will stop or he will end up in jail over this?

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1 hour ago, NakedHunterBiden said:

LAST WARNING
The former president is all out of chances to avoid prison for violating his gag order, the judge said in court Monday morning as he found Trump in contempt one more time.
 

www.thedailybeast.com

Judge Gives Trump Final Warning: Jail Is Next

The former president is all out of chances to avoid prison for violating his gag order, the judge said in court Monday morning as he found Trump in contempt one more time.
www.thedailybeast.com


“I’ll find you in criminal contempt for the tenth time,” Merchan said in a stark tone. “It appears that the $1,000 fines are not serving as a deterrent. Therefore, going forward, this court will have to consider a jail sanction. Mr. Trump, it’s important to understand the last thing I was to do is put you in jail. You are the former president of the United States, and possibly the next one as well.”

Trump keeps ignoring the judge’s order forbidding him from speaking publicly about witnesses and jurors in a menacing way, something the former president keeps doing anyway on social media. Merchan last week fined Trump $9,000 for nine separate violations of a previous gag order—a step he only took after making repeated warnings.

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Do you think he will stop or he will end up in jail over this?

Keep going, Trump. These cultists know their facade is coming to an end. 

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Reagan would be worried about his record EC victory if he was alive today. A democrat judge with a Democrat daughter prosecuting a Democrat AG's case using a democrat POTUS appointee as the lead prosecuter in a Democrat leaning state after the DOJ determined this was not a case citing a Democrat that did it and wasn't prosecuted will turn Trump into the most popular martyr of our time.

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In many ways I think it's completely irrelevant what Trump does. He's an awful human being, and that won't change one way or the other based on a trip to Rikers for contempt of court. (As much as I'd love to see it.)

Probably what's more important is what Trump's supporters make of the situation. They've spent months convincing themselves that he's the victim of some legal witch hunt, that he's being persecuted, when in fact his crimes are pretty plain to see. 

But here, in this case we have an almost scientific experiment. Isolated from politics and even from the gorpy facts of a criminal indictment, we have a judge issuing a plain as day instruction. And it's incredibly basic: don't make public statements about witnesses, jurors, court staff and their families.

This is standard stuff for reasons that everyone understands. The judge has been clear about it. Trump was warned multiple times and continued to violate. He's been fined multiple times, and continues to violate. And the judge is begging him to stop, so that he doesn't have to put a past and potentially future president in jail.

But the question for Trump supporters, who can see the clear and repeated violations of a simple court order taking place, whether they will finally hold Trump responsible for his own dumb actions, or whether they will try to blame the court for trying to enforce a basic point of law. 

It's a lot like dealing with a toddler. They will push boundaries until they trigger the ultimatum. As Trump seems likely to do. Will his supporters finally acknowledge that the toddler was at fault for willfully violating a plain, simple and fair directive? Or, like the toddler, will they blame the authority figure for imposing consequences. Should be illuminating either way--but I have my guesses. lol

 

 

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I think he should not comment in the courthouse anymore. If he does a proper rally...be Donald. But at the courthouse...not a word.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
4 hours ago, Hodad said:

In many ways I think it's completely irrelevant what Trump does. He's an awful human being, and that won't change

This is a major reason Trump is winning in the polls an why all this "lawfare" is backfiring. Your only real complaint is that Donald is "an awful human being"...in your opinion.

And he is a tad...abrasive. He's also right about the border, the economy and I think he'd be better at foreign relations, based on his last performance. 

But ya...he's "an awful human being"...to a Tweenkie.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I think he should not comment in the courthouse anymore. If he does a proper rally...be Donald. But at the courthouse...not a word.

Why do you think that he should not feel obligated to follow the judges lawful--and basic common sense--orders? The same guidelines that apply in every court and case? Why do you think Trump is above the law?

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15 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

This is a major reason Trump is winning in the polls an why all this "lawfare" is backfiring. Your only real complaint is that Donald is "an awful human being"...in your opinion.

And he is a tad...abrasive. He's also right about the border, the economy and I think he'd be better at foreign relations, based on his last performance. 

But ya...he's "an awful human being"...to a Tweenkie.

No, I think him being an awful human being is objectively true, and I think most people will agree, whether they like his politics or not.

If you read a blinded story about someone who cheats on his wives, assaults women, steals from charities, runs scam businesses, cheats his contractors, lies constantly without hesitation, spouts recycled nazi rhetoric etc.-- nobody is going to think that is a good person. The greed, the gluttony. He really has no redeeming qualities, save for political convenience.

As I've often said, nobody wants their sons to grow up to behave like Trump, nor their daughters to marry men like Trump. We try to tech them better. 

 

And, again, the idea that this is "lawfare" is absurd. Trump has actually done all the things of which he is accused. He has broken those laws, and generally behaved as if the laws should not apply to him. Hell, his team is arguing in court that the POTUS should be entirely above the law, free to break any law with impunity. 

Any decent person should be shocked and appalled by an idea so antithetical to American values, but the "party of law and order" is A-Okay with this guy elevating the office (and conveniently himself) above the law. 

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33 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Why do you think that he should not feel obligated to follow the judges lawful--and basic common sense--orders? The same guidelines that apply in every court and case? Why do you think Trump is above the law?

Because this is all just political theater. The charges are a joke. The POTUS appointed prosecutor has to prove why Trump paid hush money to a couple porn stars. Please...it's dumb.

And I do hope you Libbies pay dearly for this...mud you wanna wallow in.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

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32 minutes ago, Hodad said:

No, I think him being an awful human being is objectively true, and I think most people will agree, whether they like his politics or not.

If you read a blinded story about someone who cheats on his wives, assaults women, steals from charities, runs scam businesses, cheats his contractors, lies constantly without hesitation, spouts recycled nazi rhetoric etc.-- nobody is going to think that is a good person. The greed, the gluttony. He really has no redeeming qualities, save for political convenience.

As I've often said, nobody wants their sons to grow up to behave like Trump, nor their daughters to marry men like Trump. We try to tech them better. 

 

And, again, the idea that this is "lawfare" is absurd. Trump has actually done all the things of which he is accused. He has broken those laws, and generally behaved as if the laws should not apply to him. Hell, his team is arguing in court that the POTUS should be entirely above the law, free to break any law with impunity. 

Any decent person should be shocked and appalled by an idea so antithetical to American values, but the "party of law and order" is A-Okay with this guy elevating the office (and conveniently himself) above the law. 

Get this clown...

Lecturing about morality and the law.

Understand that Trump is very likely to beat Brandon.

How would you like your lawfare...

Turned on your Democrats?

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Posted (edited)
18 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Because this is all just political theater. The charges are a joke. The POTUS appointed prosecutor has to prove why Trump paid hush money to a couple porn stars. Please...it's dumb.

And I do hope you Libbies pay dearly for this...mud you wanna wallow in.

You are misinformed and you don't make a bit of logical sense. 

A. The prosecutor in this case is not appointed by the POTUS. These are state and district indictments. And, indeed, even in the federal indictment, the prosecutor was not appointed by the POTUS, but by the DoJ

B. Is a basic instruction from a judge not to talk about (threaten, intimidate, coerce, pressure, etc.) witnesses, court staff and jurors "political theater"? Or is that one of the basic principles of the US legal system, entirely necessary to the function of justice? Is the fact that Trump refuses to follow this basic, lawful instruction an aberration, or is this how he has treated the law in every instance, i.e. acting as if laws don't apply to him?

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8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Get this clown...

Lecturing about morality and the law.

Understand that Trump is very likely to beat Brandon.

How would you like your lawfare...

Turned on your Democrats?

Is this your attempt at a haiku? WTF?🤣

The truth is that fanboys like you simply don't care about morality. Sure, he's all of the things I said (and more) but you don't mind as long as you can "stick it to the other guys!" 

Fine for sports fans, I guess. But critiques of the government of the most powerful nation on the planet should be more thoughtful than a game of hockey. 

And you are not now, nor have you ever been educated or thoughtful about any of the things about which you spout off. I'd suggest you STFU, eat some delicious Timbits, drink your precious beer and leave politics to the grown ups. 

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59 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

This is a major reason Trump is winning in the polls an why all this "lawfare" is backfiring. Your only real complaint is that Donald is "an awful human being"...in your opinion.

And he is a tad...abrasive. He's also right about the border, the economy and I think he'd be better at foreign relations, based on his last performance. 

But ya...he's "an awful human being"...to a Tweenkie.

And DEFENDED by ^awful human beings everywhere.

㊙️ he is NOT RIGHT inciting violence to overturn the election HE LOST. Duh

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27 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Because this is all just political theater. The charges are a joke. The POTUS appointed prosecutor has to prove why Trump paid hush money to a couple porn stars. Please...it's dumb.

And I do hope you Libbies pay dearly for this...mud you wanna wallow in.

Thanks for demonstrating you KNOW NOTHING about the case against Trump's false business records to HIDE election interference. Nor that it is against NY state law.

24 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Get this clown...

Lecturing about morality and the law.

Understand that Trump is very likely to beat Brandon.

How would you like your lawfare...

Turned on your Democrats?

NY state criminal charges is NOT "lawfare," it is JUSTICE.

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31 minutes ago, Hodad said:

You are misinformed and you don't make a bit of logical sense. 

A. The prosecutor in this case is not appointed by the POTUS. These are state and district indictments. And, indeed, even in the federal indictment, the prosecutor was not appointed by the POTUS, but by the DoJ

B. Is a basic instruction from a judge not to talk about (threaten, intimidate, coerce, pressure, etc.) witnesses, court staff and jurors "political theater"? Or is that one of the basic principles of the US legal system, entirely necessary to the function of justice? Is the fact that Trump refuses to follow this basic, lawful instruction an aberration, or is this how he has treated the law in every instance, i.e. acting as if laws don't apply to him?

Soon...they are gonna apply to a lot of Democrats.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted (edited)
27 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Is this your attempt at a haiku? WTF?🤣

The truth is that fanboys like you simply don't care about morality. Sure, he's all of the things I said (and more) but you don't mind as long as you can "stick it to the other guys!" 

Fine for sports fans, I guess. But critiques of the government of the most powerful nation on the planet should be more thoughtful than a game of hockey. 

And you are not now, nor have you ever been educated or thoughtful about any of the things about which you spout off. I'd suggest you STFU, eat some delicious Timbits, drink your precious beer and leave politics to the grown ups. 

You Libbies have no business speaking of "morality". What you've done is disgusting.! And I'd suggest you prepare for come-upins...and ya...GFY Tweenkie.

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Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

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36 minutes ago, robosmith said:

And DEFENDED by ^awful human beings everywhere.

㊙️ he is NOT RIGHT inciting violence to overturn the election HE LOST. Duh

You Libbies cheated and everyone knows it now.

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Posted
11 hours ago, NakedHunterBiden said:

Do you think he will stop or he will end up in jail over this?

The judge belongs in jail.

Leftists don't know this, but the judge shouldn't be putting a gag order on one side and not the other.

That has nothing to do with the politics here, it's just standard judicial procedure.

If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. 

"If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"

Posted
1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

The judge belongs in jail.

Leftists don't know this, but the judge shouldn't be putting a gag order on one side and not the other.

That has nothing to do with the politics here, it's just standard judicial procedure.

Lol. "The judge belongs in jail!" 

Um, no. There is nothing wrong or unusual about that gag order. Demanding that a powerful, public figure (with a legion of cultish followers, no less) not make public statements that could intimidate or endanger witnesses, jurors or court staff couldn't be more reasonable--or necessary--to sustain the process of justice. 

And if you'll notice, in the contempt review the judge does not penalize Trump for responding back to an engaged party. If Michael Cohen says something related to Trump in public, Trump has been allowed to snipe back without consequence. 

It's a two-way street. Well, as much as it can be when dealing with such a public figure. 

Clamoring for judges to be imprisoned (for no legal reason, BTW) is really driving home the "law and order" theme.

 

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Honestly - he can't buy that kind of advertising.

If he gets locked up it will be for a very short time, and he'll play it up like crazy

It'll be him "resisting the left wing attack" on him, and 'speaking truth to power', and he'll be all over the media once he's out talking about how 'like mandella' he's done his time in jail for refusing to be silenced, etc etc,

For trump there is no bad media attention at this point. The more he's in the press and the more the camera is focused on him the better - and then he'll talk about how much of a failure biden is and how weak he is compared to trump etc etc.

This kind of mud slinging is trump's preferred battleground.  But the judge has little choice.

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